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Old 04-21-2009, 09:46 AM   #26
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This shows that if GM goes down the drain, a lot of other companies will go down too. But it doesn't matter what the American people think, it's what congress thinks.
This is the point I was going to make. GM is at the hub of a vast network of suppliers, dealers, service ppl, consumers and yes, the men and women that work on the line assembling these products.

Is GM too big to fail? No of course not, as we have seen in recent months.

Should we let it fail? No again because it's just not workers on the line - but literally millions of other people whose very livelihood depend on the viability of this company.

So what do we do? We fight to save it of course. GM is in a jam right now not of there own doing, but because of mismanagement in the financial sector. They are like the guy who has slipped into the water and needs a lifeline to get back on his feet. Do we laugh at the poor sot in the water and throw stones at him as his head goes under? Of course not. We bring him back to shore, give him a towel, a bowl of soup and help him recover.

Given half a chance GM will get through this as will the American economy.

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:18 AM   #27
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I believe this diagram is a few years old and is not for the PRODUCTION CAMARO.

Not only does it show HUD ... but it lists "Quarter Window Regulators (Coupe)" and drawing is of a HARDTOP without a "B" pillar as the CONCEPT car was built.

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:43 AM   #28
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:03 PM   #29
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I believe this diagram is a few years old and is not for the PRODUCTION CAMARO.

Not only does it show HUD ... but it lists "Quarter Window Regulators (Coupe)" and drawing is of a HARDTOP without a "B" pillar as the CONCEPT car was built.

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Agreed. This lists 53 vendors out of the (I'm sure) 100's. For example, Martinrea is making the entire front and rear suspension assemblies - not just the brake lines. A complete listing would fill a 4x6 wall chart I'm sure. Still interesting though.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:16 PM   #30
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I tried to find anything from the company that makes the HUD. There's a little info out there on them but I couldn't find anything about the HUD or the Camaro specifically. They are pretty good about keeping the good info out of their press releases and whatnot.

I did see they are considered a competitor to Delphi. Doesn't Delphi make the HUD in the Vette?
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:22 PM   #31
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I just noticed this one:

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Old 04-21-2009, 01:30 PM   #32
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YOU MUST not no that much about speakers but Biston is way better then bose... bose are over priced speakers.. harmon karder that come in bmw blows away bose also.. trust me its work it to get the boston upgrade if you are into music in the car played at high volume lol

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is the premium sound system still made by panasonic?
or does boston do anything to it, or are they just the speakers?
i am still disappointed that it will not have bose.
my car has bose, its amazinggg!

also, it says brembo for the rear brakes, but its a V6,
is that saying brembo is possible, or are they just a weaker version brembo brakes?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:37 PM   #33
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Honestly bose car stereo is not that good, atleast as far as many car audio nuts are concerned. They are more of a home stereo company, boston acoustics is one of the best of the best in the aftermarket community atleast, much more highly regarded compared to bose.


Really lack mid-range. Okay highs and lows though. Mine in my truck is not all what its cracked up to be.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:49 PM   #34
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Omron is making the trunk release switch!!!!! AWESOME!!!
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:57 PM   #35
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i have the bose premium package in my vette and i love the way it sounds...i dont know much about car audio but several of my friends that i have spoken to about the BA system in the camaro says it will blow my bose system in the vette away.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:11 PM   #36
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Omron is making the trunk release switch!!!!! AWESOME!!!
That news got me pretty excited too!!!!!!!
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:13 PM   #37
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:38 PM   #38
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soo can someone clear up who makes the V6 brakes? If it was brembo, that would be awesome!
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:40 PM   #39
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Not the US...lol Obama please make them build them in the US where they belong......
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:24 PM   #40
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I NEED HELP SHOULD I PULL MY ORDER AND WAIT FOR THE HUD.............. PLEASE HELP WHAT TO DO
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:34 PM   #41
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wow...not one of those companies are the same
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I believe this diagram is a few years old and is not for the PRODUCTION CAMARO.

Not only does it show HUD ... but it lists "Quarter Window Regulators (Coupe)" and drawing is of a HARDTOP without a "B" pillar as the CONCEPT car was built.

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Actually, it says Quarter regulators (CONVERTIBLE).

The vert is certainly sourced-out by now.

Yes, I agree the diagram is a little hokey, with the hardtop.



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Omron is making the trunk release switch!!!!! AWESOME!!!
Shunt tested!




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i have the bose premium package in my vette and i love the way it sounds...i dont know much about car audio but several of my friends that i have spoken to about the BA system in the camaro says it will blow my bose system in the vette away.

The Corvette is a (gasp), hatchback.

The Camaro has a trunk to act as a resonance chamber.

The Camaro BA system will blow away C6 BOSE.




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Very cool! Thanks, C5.







That news got me pretty excited too!!!!!!!

Glad you enjoyed it buddy!




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I NEED HELP SHOULD I PULL MY ORDER AND WAIT FOR THE HUD.............. PLEASE HELP WHAT TO DO


Please...KILL THE CAPS.


As far as HUD -

I bought a 3LT C6, and when banging gears, I never, ever, looked to the HUD.

The analog gauges are so fine.


Also, remember the special windshield in a HUD car is around $1750.
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Sorry about the caps ok should i just get the car pease help................
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:31 PM   #44
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Honestly bose car stereo is not that good, atleast as far as many car audio nuts are concerned. They are more of a home stereo company, boston acoustics is one of the best of the best in the aftermarket community atleast, much more highly regarded compared to bose.
I agree I have heard alot of bose and was not impressed. They sounded like a watered down version and I think the boston accoustics will be the same so I ordered mine with out bostons.Mine will have kickers all the way around so I can here the radio over my exhaust.
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Old 04-22-2009, 01:00 AM   #45
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Omron is making the trunk release switch!!!!! AWESOME!!!
I'm sure Shunt will be pleased.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:50 AM   #46
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Radio - Panasonic... not Delphi? Interesting....
I believe Panasonic has a very large share of GM radios...all of them designed in Peach Tree City, Atlanta by American engineers and not in Japan as you may think.

Delphi still is the majority supplier of radios to GM. Designed in Kokomo IN.

Both make great OEM radios. Neither manufactures radios in US anymore. China and Mexico are where most radios are manufactured nowadays.

Branded systems like Boston Acoustics or Infinity are usually just the Speakers.
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Mark Martin secures third pole of the season, and WINS! at Phoenix!

The old man wins one.
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Wow totally missing the wheel bearings which upsets me as I work at the factory that makes them!

Kyklos Bearing Internation, Sandusky, Ohio
Makes both drive and the non-drive zeta bearings!
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Mark Martin secures third pole of the season, and WINS! at Phoenix!

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Actually, that's win number 36!
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Wow totally missing the wheel bearings which upsets me as I work at the factory that makes them!

Kyklos Bearing Internation, Sandusky, Ohio
Makes both drive and the non-drive zeta bearings!
Sandusky? That's the same place Chis Farleys character Tommy Boy Callahan sales oil filters and brakes!
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BTW That would be cool to work for a place that supplies our beloved Camaro it's parts, not as cool as it would be to be working at the Oshawa plant but still pretty cool!
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