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Old 01-03-2012, 01:41 AM   #1
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Transmission decision help

I am in a very good position to fortunately be able to upgrade into a SS. I am torn between getting a standard (LS3) or a auto (L99). This thread is not intended by any means to start the typical debate on which transmission is better.

The only reason I am second guessing getting a standard is due to the fact that I have never honestly truly operated a standard in my life (I am 20 years old). I am honestly a little afraid I am going to break the clutch or something else trying to get use to a standard for the first time.

I have heard over and over how much more fun it is and how it is a challenge. I like fun.. and I like a challenge, but again.. I do not know if this is the best decision for me.

If you were me.. Would you get a standard or a auto?
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:53 AM   #2
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Standard...you'll be able to handle it, it really isn't that difficult. As far as "breaking" the clutch, you can wear it out with improper technique just have someone teach you or look up youtube videos. It is MUCH more fun with a standard transmission, having driven both.

Not to mention the extra HP from LS3, forgot to mention that. I think the L99 has 400 hp even.

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Old 01-03-2012, 02:06 AM   #3
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:10 AM   #4
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Standard...you'll be able to handle it, it really isn't that difficult. As far as "breaking" the clutch, you can wear it out with improper technique just have someone teach you or look up youtube videos. It is MUCH more fun with a standard transmission, having driven both.

Not to mention the extra HP from LS3, forgot to mention that. I think the L99 has 400 hp even.
You are correct. It does have more HP.

If I were able to take a Camaro with a LS3 and drive it for a weekend I would be much more comfortable making the decision.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:38 AM   #5
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It vastly depends on where do you live my friend. I live in the biggest & the most crowded city in Saudi Arabia. So getting a manual would be a insane job to do.

You got what I mean! buy whatever gonna sute you well

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:41 AM   #6
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It depends on your needs as well as your area. If the car is going to be a DD in stop and go traffic, then I'd seriously advise against the M6 (some people still do this and are completely fine with it). As a young guy, I'm not sure what your financial situation is like, but you're definitely not going to like the added maintenance of the M6 if you do in fact live in a high traffic area an the car is your DD. If your situation is similar, go A6.

With that said, if the car is just going to be your weekend toy, then go M6.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:52 AM   #7
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It depends on your needs as well as your area. If the car is going to be a DD in stop and go traffic, then I'd seriously advise against the M6 (some people still do this and are completely fine with it). As a young guy, I'm not sure what your financial situation is like, but you're definitely not going to like the added maintenance of the M6 if you do in fact live in a high traffic area an the car is your DD. If your situation is similar, go A6.

With that said, if the car is just going to be your weekend toy, then go M6.
Agreed, I am going with the A6 mainly b/c stop and go in a manual is extreamly nerve grating to me.. I am 22 and have driven manuals as long as I have driven auto's. Also with the paddle shifters and whatnot you can still do almost all the fun shinanagins.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:26 AM   #8
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Daily driver over 20 mins one way or Multiple drivers (A6)

Weekend warrior (M6)

If still not sure, will probably default to availability.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:04 AM   #9
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if i were you, i would opt for the LS3 but i am biased. they are easy to operate, and a blast to drive
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:27 AM   #10
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If I were you, I'd get the auto if I had to do a lot of driving in stop and go traffic. Otherwise, I'd get the manual.

I'd recommend that you also investigate the significant difference between the two engines. The L99 (that comes with the AT) has several advanced features that
affect the valvetrain - variable valve timing and displacement on demand. Depending
on your perspective, these can be viewed as good or bad.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:50 AM   #11
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We have one of each and they both have their selling points. But I agree with other posters, stop and go traffic is a pain with the M6.
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Hmmm, I dare to say that driving the M6 in stop and go traffic works your leg muscle more. All Camaro owners should be thrilled about this, since we all also park our cars in the furthest parking spot to avoid door dings and get some excercise? Right?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:48 AM   #13
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if i were you, i would opt for the LS3 but i am biased. they are easy to operate, and a blast to drive
I would like to have one, but perhaps its better for the future. You and I will still have matching IOM's


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Hmmm, I dare to say that driving the M6 in stop and go traffic works your leg muscle more. All Camaro owners should be thrilled about this, since we all also park our cars in the furthest parking spot to avoid door dings and get some excercise? Right?
Hmm.. I do need to get to work on building my leg muscles..
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #14
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The LS3 is the motor to have. Learn how to drive a stick. Traffic in general is a pain in the ass....makes no difference if you have a manual or automatic. I've been driving for years...in Seattle traffic...which is some of the worst in the nation. In fact, I think autos are a bigger PITA in traffic because they shift all the time.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:29 AM   #15
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L99 ftw especially for DD.

Read up on clutch and tranny issues with LS3. Haven't heard many problems with the auto.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:33 AM   #16
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L99 ftw especially for DD.

Read up on clutch and tranny issues with LS3. Haven't heard many problems with the auto.
The majority of LS3/ M6 cars are running around with zero issues. There were a bunch of early cars with issues.

However, ALL L99 cars seemed to be missing 26hp from the factory, and also came with a really annoying program called AFM. I hear it works great and is sssssssmoooooth.
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The majority of LS3/ M6 cars are running around with zero issues. There were a bunch of early cars with issues.

However, ALL L99 cars seemed to be missing 26hp from the factory, and also came with a really annoying program called AFM. I hear it works great and is sssssssmoooooth.

YOU KN...

damnit... I actually did an ls3 conversion so I can't really defend the L99 too much.

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Old 01-03-2012, 12:55 PM   #18
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Hmmm, I dare to say that driving the M6 in stop and go traffic works your leg muscle more. All Camaro owners should be thrilled about this, since we all also park our cars in the furthest parking spot to avoid door dings and get some excercise? Right?
Ha, so I'm not crazy. I went to the movies yesterday and decided to park in the furthest parking spot to avoid dings and to my surprise there where 3 other Camaros already out there. This is not only my first Camaro but it's my first new car so this behavior is new to me.
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Honestly, I would not refrain from buying the car because you don't know how to drive a manual at the moment. Get it and learn something new is what I say. Stalling out a few times learning will not hurt anything.

Just make sure it works for your driving conditions and go for it!
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:13 PM   #20
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L99 ftw especially for DD.

Read up on clutch and tranny issues with LS3. Haven't heard many problems with the auto.


Not saying they all have issues. I wish YOU PEOPLE would have LA traffic where ya'll live. Im sure that would change ur decision.

Op if ur not gonna race is the extra hp worth it? Also just because the LS3 has more hp doesnt make it faster than the L99. L99 has more gears therefore is the same as the LS3.
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As a young guy, I'm not sure what your financial situation is like, but you're definitely not going to like the added maintenance of the M6 if you do in fact live in a high traffic area an the car is your DD.
Having just bought one, I'm curious what "added maintenance of the M6" you are referring to? I drove a couple of manuals at opposite ends of the spectrum (a 1974 Fiat 1800 Spider and a supercharged 1989 Mustang 5.0) on a hideous 30-60 minute stop and go commute in Seattle. Neither needed clutch or transmission work in the 10 years and 100,000 miles that I owned each of them. I'm expecting the same from the Camaro.

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Old 01-03-2012, 01:52 PM   #22
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I have the M6 and drive about 20 minutes each day to work in traffic. I wouldn't have anything else. You get used to the shifting and clutch work. I would definitely recommend renting or borrowing a manual vehicle for a week or so to get the mechanics down if you are not used to driving a stick.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:00 PM   #23
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Get the stick, bring it over and I'll learn ya how to drive it!!!!!!
Ours (read my wifes) is auto 'cause she didn't want to have to shift all the time driving downtown (DD).
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Something else to consider is future mods. The auto requires extra $$$ if you want to add a cam.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:21 PM   #25
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Having just bought one, I'm curious what "added maintenance of the M6" you are referring to? I drove a couple of manuals at opposite ends of the spectrum (a 1974 Fiat 1800 Spider and a supercharged 1989 Mustang 5.0) on a hideous 30-60 minute stop and go commute in Seattle. Neither needed clutch or transmission work in the 10 years that I owned each of them. I'm expecting the same from the Camaro.
Unfortunately, you're going to be sadly disappointed. I'm talking about clutches and rear ends. Of course it all comes down to how hard you drive the car, but some spirited driving or track work will definitely require a new clutch sooner or later. This in comparison to the lack of maintenance in the auto and you therefore find the "added maintenance".

In addition, I recall seeing threads with members needing a new clutch as early as 5,000mi. Again however, it all comes down to your driving style.
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