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Old 12-31-2011, 09:00 AM   #1
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Exclamation My ride quality is not good

Is it possible for your suspensions to stiffen up. Or somehow make your ride more painful. Recently my camaro has been driving really rough. I can feel even the smallest dips more than usual and cracks on the road.

I installed 1inch drop springs from Eibach all round. And sway bars from BMR fully stiffened. And the 4 pt BMR strut tower brace.

I did have all this installed for almost a month now but didn't notice much untlil just about a week ago.

*i have to say, a couple of night before I started to notice this poor ride- I was going about 50mph and went through a dip in the road. The car almost lost control. I hop so hard my head hit the top of the car. Bottomed out.


What can I do to return to a more confortable ride?

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Old 12-31-2011, 09:10 AM   #2
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Look to see if your struts are not blown out and oil is coming out, you may have damaged them on that dip in the road.
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I agree with the above post, I would check everything in the suspension. There are parts that can be bent or broken in a hole like that. Best get her up on a lift and give it a complete looksee.
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Is it possible for your suspensions to stiffen up. Or somehow make your ride more painful. Recently my camaro has been driving really rough. I can feel even the smallest dips more than usual and cracks on the road.

I installed 1inch drop springs from Eibach all round. And sway bars from BMR fully stiffened. And the 4 pt BMR strut brace.

I did have all this installed for almost a month now but didn't notice much untlil just about a week ago.

*i have to say, a couple of night before I started to notice this poor ride- I was going about 50mph and went through a dip in the road. The car almost lost control. I hop so hard my head hit the top of the car.
What can I do to return to a more confortable ride?
I would start with a general check of the suspension.We have removed those spring for doing that .I believe they call for the bump stop to be cut ,if they were not I would start there because once the car bottoms out on the stops due to the springs,it will cause the car to bind or bump steer due to uneven suspension travel.How much of a drop do you have now that the springs have settled? Was the bushings timed when the install was done?did you have it aligned after the install?
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:08 AM   #5
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IMHO, Coilovers are the only way to get ride height, control and comfort all in one package. Yes they are expensive but you gotta pay to play to get the adjustments needed to fine tune them to your liking... The damping rates are pure poop on the OE rear shocks! I knew I was going to have to change them on the second drive...
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IMHO, Coilovers are the only way to get ride height, control and comfort all in one package. Yes they are expensive but you gotta pay to play to get the adjustments needed to fine tune them to your liking... The damping rates are pure poop on the OE rear shocks! I knew I was going to have to change them on the second drive...
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My front struts were dead after 25000 hard cornering miles and I mean piston in and wouldn't rise dead. The new struts, BC coils are better and also for sale .
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start with a suspension check. it's quite possible something got damaged when the car bottomed. you also give up ride quality when you lower a vehicle although 1 inch shouldn't be that much, the sway bar in addition to the strut brace could lead to a slightly more uncomfortable ride.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:35 PM   #9
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My front struts were dead after 25000 hard cornering miles and I mean piston in and wouldn't rise dead. The new struts, BC coils are better and also for sale .
A link of where to get them?
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:37 PM   #10
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start with a suspension check. it's quite possible something got damaged when the car bottomed. you also give up ride quality when you lower a vehicle although 1 inch shouldn't be that much, the sway bar in addition to the strut brace could lead to a slightly more uncomfortable ride.

Right. After all that addition. My ride quality was slightly altered but for the best. After I bottomed out (if the meaning is what I think it is) then I started to notice a more poor(ER) ride quality.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:39 PM   #11
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I will have an auto shop do the suspension check for me. Then I would like to buy the parts and install it myself. I love to work on my car.
Do you think it's something I can repair myself at home with an avg collection of tools and the right parts?
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:41 PM   #12
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Look to see if your struts are not blown out and oil is coming out, you may have damaged them on that dip in the road.
Any ideas or links on the parts I would need. I have some money saved. I was planning on changin my interior trim red and do some inserts. Darn it.
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:43 PM   #13
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I would start with a general check of the suspension.We have removed those spring for doing that .I believe they call for the bump stop to be cut ,if they were not I would start there because once the car bottoms out on the stops due to the springs,it will cause the car to bind or bump steer due to uneven suspension travel.How much of a drop do you have now that the springs have settled? Was the bushings timed when the install was done?did you have it aligned after the install?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm a little slow on suspension analysis when it comes to cars. Would you mind explaining a little more what you would do in this case? Thank you
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:44 PM   #14
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Wow. Thank you all camaro5ers for helping
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I installed 1inch drop springs from Eibach all round. And sway bars from BMR fully stiffened. And the 4 pt BMR strut tower brace.
What can I do to return to a more confortable ride?
You've installed the items above so of course your suspension is going to ride and feel stiffer. Springs are tighter so less "spring", sway bars are thicker so less "sway".
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:48 PM   #16
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You've installed the items above so of course your suspension is going to ride and feel stiffer. Springs are tighter so less "spring", sway bars are thicker so less "sway".
Thing is. The ride is horrible.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:50 PM   #17
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It got worst after bottom out.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:53 PM   #18
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Is it possible for your suspensions to stiffen up. Or somehow make your ride more painful. Recently my camaro has been driving really rough. I can feel even the smallest dips more than usual and cracks on the road.

I installed 1inch drop springs from Eibach all round. And sway bars from BMR fully stiffened. And the 4 pt BMR strut tower brace.

I did have all this installed for almost a month now but didn't notice much untlil just about a week ago.

*i have to say, a couple of night before I started to notice this poor ride- I was going about 50mph and went through a dip in the road. The car almost lost control. I hop so hard my head hit the top of the car. Bottomed out.


What can I do to return to a more confortable ride?
Go back to the suspension system that the Chevy engineers gave you to start with.
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Go back to the suspension system that the Chevy engineers gave you to start with.
But now I can take turns at 75mph
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I'd start in the vendor section of the marketplace and see what gets your attention.

Pedders, Pfadt, BC etc, you can't seem to go wrong with any of them. If you look outside C5, KW Variant 3's are pretty dang good too.


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Old 01-01-2012, 09:49 AM   #22
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I think this is why they tend to say that drop-springs are more of a cosmetic enhancement, sure it lowers the CG, but your damping rates are all screwed up based on the spring force now. I got sways and a strut bar and got the chance to tear up some mountain roads in the Eastern CA Sierras over the last week and all I can say is WOW, soooo much fun. Yeah, it would be neat if my car looked lower, but it's not worth the hassle with drop-springs.
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Any ideas or links on the parts I would need. I have some money saved. I was planning on changin my interior trim red and do some inserts. Darn it.
After the shop checks your car over and gives you an idea of what is wrong,give me a call and we can go over what you should do to prevent it from happening again.As said in this thread the coil overs are the best way to lower your camaro,and we still have the Pedders on sale if you are intersted.
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After the shop checks your car over and gives you an idea of what is wrong,give me a call and we can go over what you should do to prevent it from happening again.As said in this thread the coil overs are the best way to lower your camaro,and we still have the Pedders on sale if you are intersted.
+1 Give him a call and he will get you back up and running smooth in no time. Have to watch the drop springs as they will age your struts pretty quickly. Coilovers while a lot more expensive are a long term fix, you can get your car down lower and still mantain a good ride long term.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:17 AM   #25
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Okay thanks guys. Tomorrow I'll see into buying the bc coil overs. I'm on a tight budget that seems to be my only option -price/sale wise.
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