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Old 04-20-2009, 03:53 PM   #1
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Borla Sport Exhaust v's GMPP Catback

I just got off the phone with a guy with Borla and he gave me lots of great info.I asked him questions about the GMPP cat-back exhaust which they built verses there Cat-back Exhaust.He said there was a tremendous difference between GMPP's product and there complete Cat-back.He said the GMPP product was designed with alot more restrictions and would not make much difference in HP or Sound.Borla makes two systems for the 2010 Camaro a Sport and a Touring.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told.The touring is not as aggressive of a system.I was all set to buy the GMPP Cat-back until he said it will not make much difference in HP or in Sound.His exact words was lots of people are going to waste there money buying the GMPP Cat-back system.He said that they will beable to deliver there exhaust systems the first week of May.
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:57 PM   #2
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I was under the impression that GMPP system was only axle back
But I am defiantly doing the sport system... Sounds incredible on the C6 LS3...
By the way. Buy from Summit, you can save a couple hun rather then Borla directly.
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Wow! Great info. And THANK YOU. Because I was also about to buy the GMPP exhaust, I figured if it was built by Borla, then it must be about the same as their products, and the GMPP parts are warranteed and such. Guess I wont be now. And if those HP numbers are legit, that is AMAZING. That would make them totally worth the cost! Again, great info and thanks!
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:59 PM   #4
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I was under the impression that GMPP system was only axle back
But I am defiantly doing the sport system... Sounds incredible on the C6 LS3
nope.

Cat-back. look at the mod threads in my sig
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:59 PM   #5
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wow thats cool info, i didn't know the stock system was restricting that much power but i guess it would have too, to be quiet
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wow thats cool info, i didn't know the stock system was restricting that much power but i guess it would have too, to be quiet
Yeah.. It seems crazy GM would sacrifice that kind of HP. We will see how these HP numbers hold up. Ive got my fingers crossed, but we'll see.
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:03 PM   #7
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Wow that is really cool. It would be even more amazing to see a comparison vid of the GMPP vs. Borla exhaust setups in the coming months.

I hope you guys who get your cars soon plan on doing the dirty guinea pig work for the rest of us!
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:09 PM   #8
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Wow that is really cool. It would be even more amazing to see a comparison vid of the GMPP vs. Borla exhaust setups in the coming months.

I hope you guys who get your cars soon plan on doing the dirty guinea pig work for the rest of us!
I am so tempted to buy this exhaust today.... But I guess I'll wait
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:35 PM   #9
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I just got off the phone with a guy with Borla and he gave me lots of great info.I asked him questions about the GMPP cat-back exhaust which they built verses there Cat-back Exhaust.He said there was a tremendous difference between GMPP's product and there complete Cat-back.He said the GMPP product was designed with alot more restrictions and would not make much difference in HP or Sound.Borla makes two systems for the 2010 Camaro a Sport and a Touring.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told.The touring is not as aggressive of a system.I was all set to buy the GMPP Cat-back until he said it will not make much difference in HP or in Sound.His exact words was lots of people are going to waste there money buying the GMPP Cat-back system.He said that they will beable to deliver there exhaust systems the first week of May.
$1500 for shiny pipes, no thanks imo. Ill wait for KOOKs to release their LT's, off road X pipe and their cat back, that will cost ~$2k but you get so much more. (ref: pontiac g8 system)
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:46 PM   #10
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.He said the Sport system sounds awesome and on the dyno produced 6.2% increase in flow and get this 27 to 28HP increase.Please don't jump on me about those numbers that is what I was told..
Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:49 PM   #11
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Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!
It's not impossible. It's very unlikely but not impossible. There are vehicles with suffocating exhausts that can see large gains, but I'm not convinced the Camaro will be one of them.

I'd be willing to guess at 15 rwhp gains in a perfect world.
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It's not impossible. It's very unlikely but not impossible. There are vehicles with suffocating exhausts that can see large gains, but I'm not convinced the Camaro will be one of them.

I'd be willing to guess at 15 rwhp gains in a perfect world.
The Tom Henry Camaro with rockers, exhaust, intake, long tubes and a tune
only gets 16 more hp with all of those mods. I would say the stock SS is
pretty darn good at least based on those numbers.
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:26 PM   #13
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Not jumping on you, but if anyone up here thinks there gonna get that, well
your not!!!
That is why I said don't jump on me.I know those numbers are pretty impossible.The guy I talked to looked these numbers up on his computer and read them off of there Dyno sheet.If it could produce 15+ it will be worth the $1294.00 from summit racing.I ordered the Borla Sport Exhaust system from Summit Racing with shipping and everything it was $1306.00.The guy with Borla said the the guy that tested the Sport Exhaust couldn't shut up about how good it sounded on the SS Camaro.He also said the guy that has been testing the touring Exhaust said it was nice ,but it was to quit for him. The guy I talked to with Borla was as helpful as I have come across in along time.
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Would there be a significant difference in horsepower gains between the Sport and the Touring models?
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:46 PM   #15
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The Tom Henry Camaro with rockers, exhaust, intake, long tubes and a tune
only gets 16 more hp with all of those mods. I would say the stock SS is
pretty darn good at least based on those numbers.
Sorry guys...I just read the find print and it says it sounds like 27-28HP and may not reflect the true Hp. "I am just joking"

I think I will pay the $1294.00 for the Borla Sport which is a full Cat-back with X-pipe over the $950.00 for GMPP restricted system.
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:50 PM   #16
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guys just an idea, and i already orderd mine, qtp electric exhuast openers with qtp exhuast cutouts. you can have the best of both worlds, stock and amazing!!! all for 350
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guys just an idea, and i already orderd mine, qtp electric exhuast openers with qtp exhuast cutouts. you can have the best of both worlds, stock and amazing!!! all for 350
Exactly! Drive you nuts if you have them open all the time but you'll scare the crap out of a few people.
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did he say anything like they put a cai or anything else on like most companys do when they say there dyno numbers cuz i could see that as reasonable numbers
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:17 PM   #19
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The Borla rep. and his claim of 27hp has definitely got my attention. Most manufacturers do dyno spec. their components, so I guess we need JohnnyCamaro or Robin Lawrence to chime in with any data GM has on their GMPP Performance Exhaust.
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The Borla rep. and his claim of 27hp has definitely got my attention. Most manufacturers do dyno spec. their components, so I guess we need JohnnyCamaro or Robin Lawrence to chime in with any data GM has on their GMPP Performance Exhaust.
Although I'm reserving judgement until I hear from them, considering how much I've liked Borla products in the past, I might have to spend that extra money...
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The advantages of waiting for 2011 is that i get to save money, and see what you all do first


personally, I want to see and compare other systems like Corsa, magnaflow, and flowmaster
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personally, I want to see and compare other systems like Corsa, magnaflow, and flowmaster
LOL! 2012 here! Not by choice, really, but I'm sure there's going to be lots' on the market by then. We'll have a plethora of pinatas, jefe
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LOL! 2012 here! Not by choice, really, but I'm sure there's going to be lots' on the market by then. We'll have a plethora of pinatas, jefe
Ha. Same here. Well, 2011, but not by choice, like you. Except i may go used. I plan on keeping my Camaro for a LONG time. And eventually, I think having a 2010 model will be worth some money.
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LOL! 2012 here! Not by choice, really, but I'm sure there's going to be lots' on the market by then. We'll have a plethora of pinatas, jefe
Do you even know what a plethora is?
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Borla makes a nice long lasting product, but they are pricey. Have you folks looked at doing an ARH Long-tube system. About the same price as a Borla Cat-Back!! and much better gains in HP.

Check out the Group Buy Thread in the LS3 Forum if you are interested!

I can also order these Borla systems and beat most prices out there so feel free to get in touch for any of the parts you need!
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