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Old 01-06-2012, 10:08 AM   #1
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How do I make this compete with a new 5.0?

Wife won't let me get my Z06 until she has a "fun car" of her own. She likes the looks of the Camaro but driving the 5.0. And honestly I agree with her.

I am a Chevy guy at heart but after driving the 5.0 and the SS back to back I was really disappointed. The 5.0 was much more nimble and 1st gear was way better. I just can't warm up to the idea of buying a 5.0 over a 6.2. There is only 300 lb difference in the cars so I guess I am not sure why the 6.2 is so doggy compared to the the 5.0. Is it detuned that much?

Anyway, REALLY want to find an excuse to get the SS. Just want to be know what you guys are doing to make it competetive but also keeping it in the "Female Daily Driver Friendly" category. Meaning I am not sure she will be thrilled about waking up the neighbors every morning with a cam and loud exhaust. Any other ideas?

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Old 01-06-2012, 10:17 AM   #2
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Part of it is that live rear axle. It's fun to drive because the car can really throw you around and you feel it in the seat of your pants. Of course that can also bite you in the rear when the rear end starts coming around when you least expect it. I've owned an 05 GT, 08 Bullitt, and a 2010 Roush. All of them were a lot of fun to drive but all of them were a little on the unpredictable side.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:21 AM   #3
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She's not too picky. BUT my buddy is a BIG Ford guy. He is ordering a 5.0 and I can't bare the thought of him having a quicker car out of the box. I'd never hear the end of it. lol

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Old 01-06-2012, 10:26 AM   #4
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Next time you go for a test drive. Turn traction control off on both cars. That will give you a much better comparison of how the cars drive. The Camaro isn't doing itself any favors with the normal ST TC settings...

also there's the low octane issue. they may be running low octane in the camaro which really detunes the car...

I'd drive them both with everything off that may help you make a more accurate decision. But I think in terms of "feel" the 5.0 is gonna be tough to beat.

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Old 01-06-2012, 10:30 AM   #5
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Just a thought...you should buy for "her" whatever it is you would want!!..If she can handle a mustang or a camaro, odds are it won't be long before she takes over the Z06, and you're in the "other" car!!! lol
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:34 AM   #6
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I am guess that if the SS or 5.0 scares her, the Z06 with a Lingenfelter 660 package will give her a heart attack....lol

I know the dynamic of the car wont change. I just want to make sure I can at least keep up with 5.0 0-100
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:36 AM   #7
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I am guess that if the SS or 5.0 scares her, the Z06 with a Lingenfelter 660 package will give her a heart attack....lol

I know the dynamic of the car wont change. I just want to make sure I can at least keep up with 5.0 0-100
...hold off and go ZL1!! lol
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:41 AM   #8
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Its not that the 6.2 is "doggy", the 5.0 is DOHC so as far as power, it isnt far off from the 6.2.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:41 AM   #9
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Well.....It would be hard for even ME to justify buying a ZL1 over the '13 GT500 for the same money. Plus you get too much money wrapped up in it than it get hard to use as a daily driver.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:47 AM   #10
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Tell her to go buy whichever one makes her happy, then you go buy your Z06. Done.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:47 AM   #11
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Well.....It would be hard for even ME to justify buying a ZL1 over the '13 GT500 for the same money. Plus you get too much money wrapped up in it than it get hard to use as a daily driver.
True enough...good problem to have, though!!...Maybe this angle would help: if you got the z06...(that takes care of the being faster than ford issue)...I'd rather stick with another chevy than "explaining" the mustang!

...either you're a chevy family or a ford family!!! lol
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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Tell her to go buy whichever one makes her happy, then you go buy your Z06. Done.
This.

I don't see the big deal.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:59 AM   #13
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I don't understand,... 5.0 being faster than SS?

I just don't get it, I hear so many of you guys comment and worry about how fast a new 5.0 is? Now don't get me wrong, the 5.0 is not a slow car, and I think in the real world it would be a dead even race, more than likely coming down to who the better driver is! I've read countless articles and watched countless reviews and races about these two cars, and I'm sorry it's a 50/50 battle. I have not seen either car dominate the other in any performance catagory! And if you read that the mustang is faster in one magazine, you will read the camaro is faster in another? Pick the one that looks the best..............................The Camaro
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:00 AM   #14
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I am guess that if the SS or 5.0 scares her, the Z06 with a Lingenfelter 660 package will give her a heart attack....lol

I know the dynamic of the car wont change. I just want to make sure I can at least keep up with 5.0 0-100
I'm not sure why your concerned about what your friend drives. There are a lot of much faster cars out there.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:04 AM   #15
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Divorce her. It's really the only answer to this question.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:08 AM   #16
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If you're not worried about mileage and noise is an issue. Gears can really improve the seat of the pants feel. You'll have to either tune the car to correct the speedo or I hear there is also a device that you can splice into your wiring. But I haven't looked into that myself.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:12 AM   #17
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I just don't get it, I hear so many of you guys comment and worry about how fast a new 5.0 is? Now don't get me wrong, the 5.0 is not a slow car, and I think in the real world it would be a dead even race, more than likely coming down to who the better driver is! I've read countless articles and watched countless reviews and races about these two cars, and I'm sorry it's a 50/50 battle. I have not seen either car dominate the other in any performance catagory! And if you read that the mustang is faster in one magazine, you will read the camaro is faster in another? Pick the one that looks the best..............................The Camaro
I tend to agree with you but you are talking 1/4 race. When you put these two cars on a track with turns, stocvk for stock, the SS, sadly, gets left behind 100% of the time.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #18
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I tend to agree with you but you are talking 1/4 race. When you put these two cars on a track with turns, stocvk for stock, the SS, sadly, gets left behind 100% of the time.
Yes. Seems like by 1/4 mile the SS is about even. But out of the shoot the Mustang is fast. It's the out of the shoot that I want to even up.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:15 AM   #19
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I am A chevy Guy at heart also but the SS is Just eye Popping to me anyway. the Mustang is the same they Bring the 5.0 back and Everyone Is Like Oh My ss Killer
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:25 AM   #20
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Well.....It would be hard for even ME to justify buying a ZL1 over the '13 GT500 for the same money. Plus you get too much money wrapped up in it than it get hard to use as a daily driver.
the '13 GT500 will cost at least 60K. ZL1 is 55K.

BUT 55k and 60k is basically the same money if youre going to spend funds at that level. 60k for 650hp. 55k for 580hp.
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the '13 GT500 will cost at least 60K. ZL1 is 55K.

BUT 55k and 60k is basically the same money if youre going to spend funds at that level. 60k for 650hp. 55k for 580hp.

interesting..where did you get the $60k. I am curious.
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Part of it is that live rear axle....... you feel it in the seat of your pants....
Can you explain this part?
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Can you explain this part?
The car feels like it's more responsive. Kinda like comparing what you would feel if you drove an old MG versus a Suburban. Nothing that drastic but it's that sort of thing. The Camaro is more "planted" on the ground. You step on the gas and it goes in a straight line. You step on the gas in a Mustang and you need to be ready for which direction you'll start off in because it won't be straight.
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:50 AM   #24
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Can you explain this part?
Just asking.........seems strange live axles in the rear and feeling it in the seat of your pants......and all.

It may also be the best tool (no pun intended) in your arsonal when explaining to your gal......why you could never bend over on your beliefs about the advantages of owning and driving a new Camaro.
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Wife won't let me get my Z06 until she has a "fun car" of her own. She likes the looks of the Camaro but driving the 5.0. And honestly I agree with her.

I am a Chevy guy at heart but after driving the 5.0 and the SS back to back I was really disappointed. The 5.0 was much more nimble and 1st gear was way better. I just can't warm up to the idea of buying a 5.0 over a 6.2. There is only 300 lb difference in the cars so I guess I am not sure why the 6.2 is so doggy compared to the the 5.0. Is it detuned that much?

Anyway, REALLY want to find an excuse to get the SS. Just want to be know what you guys are doing to make it competetive but also keeping it in the "Female Daily Driver Friendly" category. Meaning I am not sure she will be thrilled about waking up the neighbors every morning with a cam and loud exhaust. Any other ideas?

Thanks!
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First of all there is "no win" in power games. Cut to the chase, YOUR WIFE WANTS A CAR! That's it. She is holding you and your car needs hostage out of an apparent need to control. She must feel a bit inferior to you to put you in that position, so empower her to get HER car. Put her behind the wheel and quit trying to make decisions for her, that will reinforce her behavior. Keep your mouth shut and write the check! OR, she may be trying to reinforce your "car" dominance not trying to step on your turf. Either way, empower her to get her car and she will empower you to get yours. And have a great evening!
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