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Old 01-06-2012, 05:55 PM   #1
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Question Nitrogen filled Tires Are they worth it?

Hey folks, I have a little issue here, I have the nitrogen filled tires on my LT and I live out on a dirt road, obviously I have lots of tire issues such as punctures and small leaks and this has happened on all my cars since I have lived here. I have always had my air compressor at the ready and have managed to maintain my tires just fine with it.
The main question here is- is it really much of a difference having nitrogen in a tire vs a tire filled with regular air? does it really do anything different having nitrogen?
I ask this because for one I obviously dont have a nitrogen system at my house to maintain my tires and I don't even know where I can go and get them filled with nitrogen other then a chevy dealership. Should I just go to using regular air? I have gone this far in life using regular air in them.
I have had my car for a month now and my passenger rear tire is 5 PSI lower than the others, tomorrow I am having my heritage grill installed and so I will be having them look at the tire and refilling it.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:58 PM   #2
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Nitrogen filled Tires Are they worth it?
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:59 PM   #3
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Nope, air is almost 80% nitrogen anyways
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I think nitrogen is a huge ripoff. Like bottled water
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oxygen is made up of a little over 70% of nitrogen, Nitrogen has bigger particles so it leaks through the tire rubber at a slower rate. The rest of the particles leak faster. So if you think about it, every time you put air in your tires, you increase the percentage of nitrogen in them. You will never be at 100% but definately close after many fill ups lol.

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oxygen is made up of a little over 70% of nitrogen, Nitrogen has bigger particles so it leaks through the tire rubber at a slower rate. The rest of the particles leak faster. So if you think about it, every time you put air in your tires, you increase the percentage of nitrogen in them. You will never be at 100% but definately close after many fill ups lol.

Thats just how i look at it. my .02
You meant air, right? Otherwise you summed it up perfectly!
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Thanks folks I appreciate all the advice, a buddy of mine said that nitrogen was the way to go but he had no real viable reason as to why.
It's easier for me to access regular air with my compressor and it is more convenient when it comes to filling my tires.
The car had nitrogen filled tires at the dealership and so I had no choice but to get it that way, unless I was just going to stand there while they let the nitrogen out of them all and then just pump them up with regular air lol.
The longer I have this car and think about the tires, the more I am just thinking of filling up the tires like I am used to doing, and I am also thinking of filling them up a little firmerabout another five pounds. This is the practice I have always been doing on my cars and have never had any issues when it came to tire wear, and I actually got better gas mileage when I did that. For example when I had my Avalanche I had new tires put on and they filled them to around 35 PSI (the reccomended pressure written on the door) and I drove it twenty miles home and noticed that the vehicle was getting really crappy mileage, I then filled the tires up to around 42~44 PSI and I got way better mileage, the tires even lasted a long time as well after that.
I even fill the tires up on my 04 Monte Carlo supercharged up to 42 PSI and it too gets better gas mileage than it used to with the old "reccomended" pressures.
I have a good friend that used to work in tire shops and he even turned me on to that little trick. Hmmmmm I think I need to call him and talk to him about the nitrogen filled tires.
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NOPE......AIR IS FREE! if you have to pay for something to presurize your tires....BUY A COMPRESSOR.....
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:27 PM   #9
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Thanks folks I appreciate all the advice, a buddy of mine said that nitrogen was the way to go but he had no real viable reason as to why.
It's easier for me to access regular air with my compressor and it is more convenient when it comes to filling my tires.
The car had nitrogen filled tires at the dealership and so I had no choice but to get it that way, unless I was just going to stand there while they let the nitrogen out of them all and then just pump them up with regular air lol.
The longer I have this car and think about the tires, the more I am just thinking of filling up the tires like I am used to doing, and I am also thinking of filling them up a little firmerabout another five pounds. This is the practice I have always been doing on my cars and have never had any issues when it came to tire wear, and I actually got better gas mileage when I did that. For example when I had my Avalanche I had new tires put on and they filled them to around 35 PSI (the reccomended pressure written on the door) and I drove it twenty miles home and noticed that the vehicle was getting really crappy mileage, I then filled the tires up to around 42~44 PSI and I got way better mileage, the tires even lasted a long time as well after that.
I even fill the tires up on my 04 Monte Carlo supercharged up to 42 PSI and it too gets better gas mileage than it used to with the old "reccomended" pressures.
I have a good friend that used to work in tire shops and he even turned me on to that little trick. Hmmmmm I think I need to call him and talk to him about the nitrogen filled tires.
Just fill as need with regular air, no need to empty the nitrogen. Home Depot had a nice Husky 2 gallon air compressor on sale recently for $49 (I picked one up), you may want to look into that for home fill up's.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:29 PM   #10
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imo, unless you're into serious racing then stay with nitrogen, otherwise there's nothing wrong with regular air.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #11
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Just fill as need with regular air, no need to empty the nitrogen. home Depot had a nice husky 2 gallon air compressor on sale recently for $49 (I picked one up), you may want to look into that for home fill up's.
Like I said before, I have an air compressor at the ready all the time because I am always having to repair them/ fill them. However it is about time to get a new one, I have a DeVilbas 20 gallon compressor that I have had for about twenty years now and it is really starting to show it's age although i have rebuilt it twice, rebuilding air compressors is easy, I haven't found a broken down compressor yet that I cannot fix, that is how I get some really nice compressors for DIRT cheap because folks think they are non repairable.
I actually like the large capacity compressors because living out on this dirt road I use them for blowing all the dust out of my cars almost on a daily basis.
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Its not worth it for daily driving. As everyone mentioned atmospheric air on earth is mostly nitrogen.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:54 PM   #13
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I had the $5US/tire nitrogen fill and they vary between 36 and 34 80F to 20F.

What more do you want?
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:32 PM   #14
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I think nitrogen is a huge ripoff. Like bottled water
Brother, I couldn't agree more! Nitrogen IS air.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:42 PM   #15
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There is a slight difference in heat build up between Nitrogen fill and normal air but not enough for any but the most hard core of racing to notice. It certainly isnt worth paying to get more nitrogen in your tires.
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I haven't paid to get my tire pressure regulated once with Nitrogen, it's been free every time... sorry for your $5 rip-off
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The only benefit of nitrogen, is the tires will maintain the air pressure for longer periods of time. But if your always on dirt roads then there is no point


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I guess about the only benefit I could think of when pumping pure N2 gas into your tires is that nitrogen is less prone to pressure deviation upon temperature changes, leading to consistent inflation. The difference between 'air' and nitrogen is about 20%.
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I had the $5US/tire nitrogen fill and they vary between 36 and 34 80F to 20F.

What more do you want?
I think you are exaggerating as both air and nitrogen will change 1.9% per 10 degrees. The amount of moisture has a bigger effect so keep your air dry.
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When i lived in North Pole Alaska all our cars had Nitrogen in the tires, just this morning it was -51 degrees below zero, up there it helps with driving on square tires till they heat up plus tire pressure stays more constant with the constant varying of the temperatures!
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I think you are exaggerating as both air and nitrogen will change 1.9% per 10 degrees. The amount of moisture has a bigger effect so keep your air dry.
Well that is what we see.

Just from our experience.

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oxygen is made up of a little over 70% of nitrogen, Nitrogen has bigger particles so it leaks through the tire rubber at a slower rate. The rest of the particles leak faster. So if you think about it, every time you put air in your tires, you increase the percentage of nitrogen in them. You will never be at 100% but definately close after many fill ups lol.

Thats just how i look at it. my .02
Yep, totally agree. Except I know you meant air not oxygen. Explained it the same way to my co-worker awhile back. He looked puzzled, jaw dropped and then got it. We hammered him about for about a month. Pretty funny, situational.
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When i lived in North Pole Alaska all our cars had Nitrogen in the tires, just this morning it was -51 degrees below zero, up there it helps with driving on square tires till they heat up plus tire pressure stays more constant with the constant varying of the temperatures!
You Eskimo's and your oneupmanship on temp variations.

-51 is too fricken cold for me. Is it a dry or wet cold?
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If done correctly (big if depending on dealer), I think its a big plus. I live in SE Arizona with big (40 degree or more) temp swings and the tire pressures are way more stable. Plus they do not bleed off "air" as quickly. I've only had to add air 4 times in 2 years and part of that was lowering them down at a high temp location.

All being said, compressor and regular checking can't be beat. Mine was part of the deal and dealer fills for free.

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Nitrogen is the way to go, it keeps the rubber inside the tires to "live" longer, less moisture dryout, keeps the pressure more stable, larger molecules so IF you get a screw or nail in the tire, the air leaks out less ....especially if the car sits for periods of time, air pressure is more stable, I have an aviation background and only used in jets tires as well...I put it in all my collector, and even in my car trailers, trailers have a big swing in tire pressure when towing...also with less tire pressure swing, less heat which is a big problem with rubber tires....my $.02
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