Hp tuner is finally coming

[cjon9657]

Long story short for the past year I have been bugging hp tuners about a tune for the 2010 v6 camaro and I talked to a representative from hp tuners and they look to have a tune for the 2012 v6 camaro in a week or two and look to have the 2010-2011's v6 later this year so I'm hoping by summer they have a tune for the 2010-11.

[Tampa Tuning]

Lets all hope. Ive been fighting the fight for two years on the V6 side

I tuned a supercharged 2012 V8 this morning, and the .485 BETA system work well. No issues.

I should be able to read the V6 on the 2012, but we'll see. Im not sure if I can make changes to the PCM yet, or if the V6 platform will have an additional cost for the tuner.
www.TampaTuning.com

[cjon9657]

I understand.

[shanmoon]

Any word on this?

[SSTREETKING]

You have no idea how long these v6 guys been asking and bugging hp tuners to support 10-11 Bosch e69 ECM just from this forum alone. I think they are scared that they are going to end up spending dollars and r&d to get the 10-11 V6 camaro supported and at the end it doesn't pay off. Well... Someone need to tell HP tuners how successful trifecta is around here and they don't look like they have slowed down not one bit, especially since they dropped the price to 300 from 600. Even when the price was 600, V6 owners was paying for it like it was nothing, but I guess they didn't have much choice. Now imagine when your favorite tuner get their hands on HP tuners and start tuning the v6 camaro? I see endless possibility.

2012 is already supported by EFI live and it's no secret HP will too. Delphi ECM.

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by cjon9657

Long story short for the past year I have been bugging hp tuners about a tune for the 2010 v6 camaro and I talked to a representative from hp tuners and they look to have a tune for the 2012 v6 camaro in a week or two and look to have the 2010-2011's v6 later this year so I'm hoping by summer they have a tune for the 2010-11.

There used to be lots of hp related topics on our v6 section but now you see ZERO. I think a lot of peoples are tired of getting their hopes high then end up with the same old nothing over and over I'm certain the 2012 will get supported but not too sure at this point for the 2010 and 2011. I thought we was going to see something by the end of 2011

Originally Posted by SSTREETKING

You have no idea how long these v6 guys been asking and bugging hp tuners to support 10-11 Bosch e69 ECM just from this forum alone. I think they are scared that they are going to end up spending dollars and r&d to get the 10-11 V6 camaro supported and at the end it doesn't pay off. Well... Someone need to tell HP tuners how successful trifecta is around here and they don't look like they have slowed down not one bit, especially since they dropped the price to 300 from 600. Even when the price was 600, V6 owners was paying for it like it was nothing, but I guess they didn't have much choice. Now imagine when your favorite tuner get their hands on HP tuners and start tuning the v6 camaro? I see endless possibility.

2012 is already supported by EFI live and it's no secret HP will too. Delphi ECM.

I remember one time I seen a post by one of hp tuner guy on their forum talking about the reason why the 2010 and 2011 v6 camaro was such a low priority is because there's no demand. Uhhhhhh kkaaaayyyy LOL! maybe there's no demand because there's nothing to demand about but "trifecta" is all I have to say. There's probably not a single v6 car on this forum that doesn't have trifecta, and I'm sure there's plenty of registered v6 guys.

[bluetorp]

Like anything else, it's cost vs. benefit. The market of V6 Camaros wanting tuning support I don't think can hold a candle to the market of V8 Camaros wanting continued support and expanded functionality (along with everything else). Or so I would assume.

Couple that with the difficulties of having to implement a completely different platform, and its easy to see why V6 coverage has been slow to fruition.

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by bluetorp

Like anything else, it's cost vs. benefit. The market of V6 Camaros wanting tuning support I don't think can hold a candle to the market of V8 Camaros wanting continued support and expanded functionality (along with everything else). Or so I would assume.

Couple that with the difficulties of having to implement a completely different platform, and its easy to see why V6 coverage has been slow to fruition.

I agree with you, and I'm sure the LLT platform is not comparable to most of the GM LS V8 platform that HP support when it come to $$$ and profit, but what other platform really have more profitability than GM's V8 in HP's catalog? I believe the LLT hold a strong place within the enthusiast community, enough to be very well considered. I believe the only thing that's really messing up the 2010-2011 V6 guys is the bosch e69 ecm. Big in europe and other parts of the world with other direct injected platforms but not so big in USA, and to make it even worst, GM changed out the ecm to more widely supported delphi for 2012. I'm sure at the end of the day HP is going to do what they think is the best for their company, can't speak for the future but it look like somebody certainly is cleaning out with the bosch e69 equipped LLT's(CTS/G8/camaro)

[Slowhawk]

It cost's them alot of money to get the V6's or any platform tunable. I'd guess a couple $100k which has a real long payback. Also throw in how hard it is to write software for a direct inject engine platform. Changinging to a Delphi controller throw's them into a loop too because it's totally different than the other computers that were used through the years. Nothing is the same in software terms.

[PoorMansCamaro]

I would switch from trifecta to hp in a fraction of a second, if it were possible.

[hapisok]

i've been in touch with HP tuners as well...the response is always "we're working on it, we'll email you when we have something." i've done what i could to express to them the demand as many of you have already done. bmore hit the nail on the head though when it comes to guys feeling their hopes and dreams fade away due to lack of after market support. maybe 2012 won't be the end of the world...or the pre-2012 camaro...

[ECU-MARO]

This wont just help the owners but tuners as well. No one has even heard of trifecta outside of this forum.

[BNRacing]

Trifecta has a reputation on the cobalt, sonic, and cruze forums other than here. But they certainly aren't "big time" or anything.

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by ECU-MARO

This wont just help the owners but tuners as well. No one has even heard of trifecta outside of this forum.

Depends what type of car you are used to. I been driving nothing but wrx and sti's since 2001 and all we dealt with was cobb, ecuflash, etc..and still knew about hpt and efi but not trifecta until I got my camaro. every tuner has hpt or efi in their library. if you don't know trifecta you will know soon enough if you have a bosch e69 ecm.

[gutterball]

The reason there isn't much out there for the V6 is because the V6 is so difficult , I was in Fl, and was going to get a tunner from Hypertech, when I got a call from the speed shop telling me Hypertech was having problems doing the V6 tunes and were recalling their tunners to work on them. Triffecta is the way to go. Vince from triffecta as gotten more out of the V6's then anyone. How about a 20 hp gain, which is what I got from my triffecta tune

[bmorecam]

The bosch ecm software has binary issues the last time I looked into EFI and HPT, but I'm sure they said that there's a work around that and very time consuming but can be done. HPT look like they will def have something available by the end of this year for the 10-11 and within the next few months for the new 2012 delphi ecm. I believe 2012 master file is being worked on as we speak. It would be nice to have HPT as an option for 10-11 bosch since it would make things whole lot easier for some tuners and customers including myself, but if it never happens then I am still good with vince

[spyder]

I'm guessing there is no new update from HP tuners!? Anyone?

[bill@hptuners]

At this point we have no plans to go back & support the 2010-2011's.

We currently support the 2012's and now gm went and switched to a new pcm in the 2013's

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by bill@hptuners

At this point we have no plans to go back & support the 2010-2011's.

We currently support the 2012's and now gm went and switched to a new pcm in the 2013's

Really? What the heck does the Powertrain control module actually do anyways seperate from the ECM and TCM?

Is the PCM the part that is actually tuned? (I'm so used to thinking its the ECM)

[Toasty]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Really? What the heck does the Powertrain control module actually do anyways seperate from the ECM and TCM?

Is the PCM the part that is actually tuned? (I'm so used to thinking its the ECM)

PCM=powertrain control module. There's some technical difficulties, but ECM is part of the PCM, if you think about it

[Toasty]

Originally Posted by bill@hptuners

At this point we have no plans to go back & support the 2010-2011's.

We currently support the 2012's and now gm went and switched to a new pcm in the 2013's

That's unfortunate. Even with Trifecta, there is much room in the 2010 and 2011 market for a viable competitor.

[spyder]

Trifecta is definitely doing a lot of hard work and earning support and business from90% of 2010-11 v6 owners. But we need more tuning options either we get some new cool trifecta updates in the future or a different vendor possibly a stable piggy back solution or module. I guess the vendors don't want to invest money into it & if one does succeed mrr than expected then a lot others wil jump right in.