Muffler Delete too loud with cam? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

ducq · 01-11-2012, 12:03 PM

So I have kooks long tubes, hi flow cats and magnaflow muffler deletes. The car is pretty loud as it is. My car is in the shop getting a TSP 229/236 112 LSA cam swap. I'm hoping it stays the same volume but just changes tone. But I'm thinking it will be much louder than it already is.

I love how the muffler deletes sound and wish I could just quiet it down but keep the tone. But I think I will end up having to put on some mufflers.
I've been searching exhaust threads all over again. Here is a list of mufflers I found that I feel will quiet the exhaust some but still keep it loud enough to my liking.

-Sw retro chambered
-Magnaflow 3 inch catback w mufflers
-Flowmaster outlaw
-Borla atak

I'd really appreciate it if anyone with these exhausts could chime in with some help. Maybe a rating of how loud on a scale of 1-10, 1 being stock mufflers and 10 being muffler deletes, the increase of sound. Any drone with these? Thanks

**ill post a video of my car when it's out of the shop later today or tomorrow**

simonmcnasty · 01-11-2012, 12:06 PM

Magnaflow....love the sound. Not too loud but a deep tone. Not raspy like some.

siriusdish · 01-11-2012, 12:10 PM

Yes will be to loud, might have cops over to your house,lol. Where vising my Dad for his ride with GM Pro mufflers, ha ha.

Parag · 01-11-2012, 12:16 PM

i have that exact same thing only a more aggressive cam. and wow wow loud. they called the cops the day i got it running, but i was being pretty annoying

maroman1138 · 01-11-2012, 12:28 PM

1-10? An 8 for me. Inside drone? Yes. Do I love it? Hell yea! Will it ever get old? Maybe, but I don't care. If it's too loud, are you too old? YEP.

Shadow Camaro · 01-11-2012, 12:35 PM

Mine is almost too loud and I don't even have a cam or muffler delete lol :P

BLACK10 · 01-11-2012, 12:36 PM

i have the same set up as you described but i also have the resonator delete. yes the cam will make it really loud. add a blower to it and it will get even louder. i love how loud it is and i've been running it like that for over two years but now im thinking of putting an axle back on it. the blower makes it sound a little too raspy at times.

any axle back will make it sound sweet imho

brantley847 · 01-11-2012, 12:38 PM

If you hoped the volume would not or just barely increase.. you are going to be shocked and yes.. cops will be at your door step often until they finally put a target on your car. I am sorry, if I offend someone.. not my intention. LTs with muff delete is loud... sometimes it works. But with a Cam it will be stupid loud (I am not "old" either)... border line obnoxious in my buddies cabin.. I am keeping my S type mufflers for my cam.

It was described to me as .. if you recall the jump from my stock to headers.. if you can imagine that jump AGAIN. That is an aggressive cam increase.. In fact, I thought the tone was BETTER with headers and exhaust or muffler delete. I think that is the best TONE you will achieve. My buddies moderate cam almost seems to lose its tone. You are far more focused on the lope than any tone.

BLACK10 · 01-11-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brantley847

I But with a Cam it will be stupid loud... border line obnoxious in my buddies cabin.. I am keeping my S type mufflers for my cam. .

not if you add sound deadener to the trunk area

brantley847 · 01-11-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

not if you add sound deadener to the trunk area

maybe so... but I am going to try my best to keep a good rapport with my neighbors. If that ever goes out the window.. maybe I will just rip the whole system out

ducq · 01-11-2012, 01:54 PM

Someone said I should put some kind of sound deadening bullet mufflers in place of where the resonators were. Some that have holes inside with steel wool and wrapped in fiber glass or something like that. Would this cause a lot of drone?

I used to have long tubes matched with borla S types but got rid of cause they were too quiet. If the jump in noise with a cam is similar to adding long tubes to a car, then I might go back and get the borla S again.

Bad70supreme · 01-11-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow Camaro

Mine is almost too loud and I don't even have a cam or muffler delete lol :P

Your a puss

geaux_tigerss · 01-11-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Your a puss

It's you're, not your. As in you're a detriment to the forum by adding nothing useful to the discussion. Go play on 4chan or reddit if all you're going to add is grammatically incorrect condescension.

brantley847 · 01-11-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geaux_tigerss

It's you're, not your. As in you're a detriment to the forum by adding nothing useful to the discussion. Go play on 4chan or reddit if all you're going to add is grammatically incorrect condescension.

I agree...

Also, geaux is having a rough week so watch out!

Don't worry tiger, It could have been much, much worse... you could have been an FSU fan like I...

Bad70supreme · 01-11-2012, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geaux_tigerss

It's you're, not your. As in you're a detriment to the forum by adding nothing useful to the discussion. Go play on 4chan or reddit if all you're going to add is grammatically incorrect condescension.

Take a chill pill, I was joking

Earl · 01-11-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Parag

i have that exact same thing only a more aggressive cam. and wow wow loud. they called the cops the day i got it running, but i was being pretty annoying

Hey man where did you get your cam? Did you have a shop install it or do you do your own work? I'm in Denver and looking to get a cam this Spring. I have a shop I go to in Wheat Ridge and this guy is great but I'm always looking to hear about new good places and people. I never see you over on the Colorado regional thread.

Parag · 01-11-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl

Hey man where did you get your cam? Did you have a shop install it or do you do your own work? I'm in Denver and looking to get a cam this Spring. I have a shop I go to in Wheat Ridge and this guy is great but I'm always looking to hear about new good places and people. I never see you over on the Colorado regional thread.

I did the cam install myself, my shop for tuning is mac in parker. I buy my stuff from santa fe and dartmouth, some speed shop there. And the regional section on these forums suck. I went pretty crazy of a cam 235/247 113

Earl · 01-11-2012, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parag

I did the cam install myself, my shop for tuning is mac in parker. I buy my stuff from santa fe and dartmouth, some speed shop there. And the regional section on these forums suck. I went pretty crazy of a cam 235/247 113

Cool. Thanks for the info.

mikeSS · 01-11-2012, 06:43 PM

the problem with a delete is that is loud all the time. a lot of other exhaust have the ability tone down at lower RPMs and get load at WOT.

jcollins91106 · 01-11-2012, 07:43 PM

Put on the magnaflows and weld in some dmh cut outs.... The best of both worlds!!! When you want them.

geaux_tigerss · 01-11-2012, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brantley847

I agree...

Also, geaux is having a rough week so watch out!

Don't worry tiger, It could have been much, much worse... you could have been an FSU fan like I...

I don't want to talk about it!!!! Damn Saban.....

ducq · 01-11-2012, 10:09 PM

So I found these magnaflow bullet mufflers (magnapacks). They are straight through, have perforated holes with steel wool and fiber glass wrapped or something? I'm thinking these in place of where the resonators were will help quiet it down some.

http://magnaflowperfexhaust.carshopi...id/65655/14416

Any thoughts on its efficiency or chance of drone?

Bell040 · 01-12-2012, 08:44 AM

big cam without LT's?

... it probably wont be that bad sound-wise.

but once you get the LT's it will be a monster.

ducq · 01-12-2012, 11:05 AM

I have long tubes :(

Synyster · 01-12-2012, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brantley847

I agree...

Also, geaux is having a rough week so watch out!

Don't worry tiger, It could have been much, much worse... you could have been an FSU fan like I...

For real...

I'm a FSU fan, but was rooting for LSU that game... even had $20 on it... I've never seen such a big game end with a shutout...

Now back to the topic lol.

01-11-2012, 12:03 PM	#1
ducq Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS LS3 blck w/ IOM Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 556	Muffler Delete too loud with cam? So I have kooks long tubes, hi flow cats and magnaflow muffler deletes. The car is pretty loud as it is. My car is in the shop getting a TSP 229/236 112 LSA cam swap. I'm hoping it stays the same volume but just changes tone. But I'm thinking it will be much louder than it already is. I love how the muffler deletes sound and wish I could just quiet it down but keep the tone. But I think I will end up having to put on some mufflers. I've been searching exhaust threads all over again. Here is a list of mufflers I found that I feel will quiet the exhaust some but still keep it loud enough to my liking. -Sw retro chambered -Magnaflow 3 inch catback w mufflers -Flowmaster outlaw -Borla atak I'd really appreciate it if anyone with these exhausts could chime in with some help. Maybe a rating of how loud on a scale of 1-10, 1 being stock mufflers and 10 being muffler deletes, the increase of sound. Any drone with these? Thanks ill post a video of my car when it's out of the shop later today or tomorrow __________________ TSP 229/236 cam .Magnaflow Comp axleback .KOOKS LT w/ high flow cats .magnapack bullets. C.A.I. Vmax ported TB. Dyno tuned 452hp / 422tq.

01-11-2012, 12:06 PM	#2
simonmcnasty The Juggernaught Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tallahassee Florida Posts: 165	Magnaflow....love the sound. Not too loud but a deep tone. Not raspy like some. __________________ 2010 IBM 2SS RS / LG G6X3 Cam / 1 7/8" Kooks headers / Hi-Flo Cats / ADM Cold air / Magnaflow 3" exhaust / UD Pulley / Sam Miller Tune / SAE 481RWHP 441RWTQ / Eibach Pro-kit / Eibach front and rear sway bars / Elite Catch Can / DRL Harness and AAC Plasma bulbs

01-11-2012, 12:10 PM	#3
siriusdish Drives: Nothing "On the site for my Dad" Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Erie PA Posts: 1,119	Yes will be to loud, might have cops over to your house,lol. Where vising my Dad for his ride with GM Pro mufflers, ha ha. __________________ 2010 L99 vararam intake, Vmax TB,Vmax Intake,TSP VVT 3 Cam,TSP underdrive pulley,Yank 3600,TM Cooler, Thundervolt 10.4 mm wires,ARH 2", High Flow cats, X-pipe, GM Pro mufflers, RX Catch Can,160 stat, BMR Trailing,toe,Cradle insert, Diff. Bushings, End links, Spohn-LCA's (Touring)18" TSW Nitto Nt05r's (spacer's). 422 rwhp Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFNAhCL7Os Escort 9500ix Disclaimer:This is my Dad's Car, I help him out from the site.

01-11-2012, 12:28 PM	#5
maroman1138 Drives: 2011 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston TX. Posts: 344 View My Garage	1-10? An 8 for me. Inside drone? Yes. Do I love it? Hell yea! Will it ever get old? Maybe, but I don't care. If it's too loud, are you too old? YEP. __________________ 2011 1SS/RS LS3 - Stage II Ported Heads, Stage II Comp Cam, Ported T.B., Hurst Shifter - 0BX LT Headers - CAT delete, Pype Bomb Axle-Back Exhaust - Muffler delete - 4.5 Resonated tips, Spectre CAI, - 480 RWHP 442 TRQ. Dyno tuned by ARD.

01-11-2012, 12:35 PM	#6
Shadow Camaro Drives: Rally Yellow 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairhope, Alabama Posts: 344	Mine is almost too loud and I don't even have a cam or muffler delete lol :P __________________ Rotofab CAI, SW LT Headers and High Flow Cats, SW Cat-Back, Eibach Pro rear wheel spacers, SS Grill Insert, Street Scene Front Splitter, Blacked out rear emblem, blacked out bezels, plasti-dipped lower bumper, plasti-dipped rims with yellow pinstriping, dyed interior stitching yellow, 2x Kicker CVR 12's w/ 1200 watt kicker amp. MORE TO COME!

01-11-2012, 12:16 PM	#4
Parag Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 1,338	i have that exact same thing only a more aggressive cam. and wow wow loud. they called the cops the day i got it running, but i was being pretty annoying

01-11-2012, 12:36 PM	#7
BLACK10 POWER TECH Drives: 2010 CAMARO. 10.04@133mph, 1.4 60' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 4,395	i have the same set up as you described but i also have the resonator delete. yes the cam will make it really loud. add a blower to it and it will get even louder. i love how loud it is and i've been running it like that for over two years but now im thinking of putting an axle back on it. the blower makes it sound a little too raspy at times. any axle back will make it sound sweet imho __________________ LETHAL RACING.COM 337-258-7692

01-11-2012, 12:38 PM	#8
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,383	If you hoped the volume would not or just barely increase.. you are going to be shocked and yes.. cops will be at your door step often until they finally put a target on your car. I am sorry, if I offend someone.. not my intention. LTs with muff delete is loud... sometimes it works. But with a Cam it will be stupid loud (I am not "old" either)... border line obnoxious in my buddies cabin.. I am keeping my S type mufflers for my cam. It was described to me as .. if you recall the jump from my stock to headers.. if you can imagine that jump AGAIN. That is an aggressive cam increase.. In fact, I thought the tone was BETTER with headers and exhaust or muffler delete. I think that is the best TONE you will achieve. My buddies moderate cam almost seems to lose its tone. You are far more focused on the lope than any tone. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP A6: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, FTI Converter, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit. Appearance:Smoked side markers and black bowties. Blk / Blue Carbon Fiber interior trim. Next in order: F14s, 3.70 gears, DSS Axles, End links/Toe rods/trailing arms, Ported heads, S/C. 1100 7/02 Ordered 3800 8/09 Order produced 4200 8/13 Shipped 6000 8/24 HOME!

01-11-2012, 01:54 PM	#11
ducq Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS LS3 blck w/ IOM Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 556	Someone said I should put some kind of sound deadening bullet mufflers in place of where the resonators were. Some that have holes inside with steel wool and wrapped in fiber glass or something like that. Would this cause a lot of drone? I used to have long tubes matched with borla S types but got rid of cause they were too quiet. If the jump in noise with a cam is similar to adding long tubes to a car, then I might go back and get the borla S again. __________________ TSP 229/236 cam .Magnaflow Comp axleback .KOOKS LT w/ high flow cats .magnapack bullets. C.A.I. Vmax ported TB. Dyno tuned 452hp / 422tq.

01-11-2012, 06:43 PM	#19
mikeSS Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,296	the problem with a delete is that is loud all the time. a lot of other exhaust have the ability tone down at lower RPMs and get load at WOT.

01-11-2012, 07:43 PM	#20
jcollins91106 Drives: 2010 2ss m6 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: staten island, ny Posts: 512	Put on the magnaflows and weld in some dmh cut outs.... The best of both worlds!!! When you want them. __________________ 2010 2ss M6, TSP 1 7/8 Long Tube headers,dual electric cutouts, 3" pipes all the way back to magnaflows. elite engineering catch can, custom painted engine cover,CAI cold air intake, apex cold air racescoop, jannety racing 470 hp kit, custom JRE hot rough idle blower cam, jannety racing dyno tuned. pfadt lowering springs, lsr short throw shifter, custom sub setup,sony 7" indash nav, interior stiching dye, 20% tint all around, HAVOC spoiler, tail light black out, chevy emblem black out, seibon BBII carbon fiber hood,Front and rear bowtie blackouts. 461 rwhp and not done yet!

01-11-2012, 10:09 PM	#22
ducq Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS LS3 blck w/ IOM Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 556	So I found these magnaflow bullet mufflers (magnapacks). They are straight through, have perforated holes with steel wool and fiber glass wrapped or something? I'm thinking these in place of where the resonators were will help quiet it down some. http://magnaflowperfexhaust.carshopi...id/65655/14416 Any thoughts on its efficiency or chance of drone? __________________ TSP 229/236 cam .Magnaflow Comp axleback .KOOKS LT w/ high flow cats .magnapack bullets. C.A.I. Vmax ported TB. Dyno tuned 452hp / 422tq.

01-12-2012, 08:44 AM	#23
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: T-Town, Alabama Posts: 2,185 View My Garage	big cam without LT's? ... it probably wont be that bad sound-wise. but once you get the LT's it will be a monster. __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @115°), LTs, VR CAI, Cutouts

01-12-2012, 11:05 AM	#24
ducq Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS LS3 blck w/ IOM Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 556	I have long tubes :( __________________ TSP 229/236 cam .Magnaflow Comp axleback .KOOKS LT w/ high flow cats .magnapack bullets. C.A.I. Vmax ported TB. Dyno tuned 452hp / 422tq.

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