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Old 01-12-2012, 09:48 PM   #1
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Full Bolt Ons?

What does Full Bolt Ons for a 2SS consist of exactly. CAI, Headers, Hi flo cats, ported TB, and what else? Thx
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:52 PM   #2
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Long tube headers, CAI, ported TB, high flow cats, 3" exhaust, water pump (?), under drive pulley, torque converter (?), dyno tune

I'm not putting cam in there because a cam swap is the equivalent of open heart surgery.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:03 PM   #3
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I didn't specify but I'm manual trans. By water pump do you mean an electric pump?
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:14 PM   #4
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I didn't specify but I'm manual trans. By water pump do you mean an electric pump?
OK if you are a M6 then scratch the torque converter. Yes, an electric water pump.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:28 PM   #5
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What would the electric water pump do? And I've been told many performance guys that say do not do the under drive pulley. Not worth the little hp u get an can cause more problems than most mods.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:47 PM   #6
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Alot of people have the underdrive pulley with no problems, but i dont recommend them. On stock the water pump is driven by the belt, an electric one isnt so it adds power, as the charge is drawn when the power is not being used. The zl1 even has a electric power steering pump too
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:21 AM   #7
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Read my Build Journal to see what full bolt-ons can do.

Underdrive pulley's work better for an M6, whereas with an A6, you may have to bump up the idle. I'm an A6 and I did notice an increase in gas mileage.

I would not recommend an electric water pump unless you're doing mainly drag racing or stoplight racing. If you're doing sustained rpm's (roadrace or autocross), it won't keep up. But I do like Meziere pump for my application.

Oh and don't forget that indeed, shorties and high-flow catte midpipes are a viable offering with proven power gains.

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lol

full bolt ons are

headers, complete exhaust, cai, tune.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:15 AM   #9
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There is not an official definition. Something close to what everyone has mentioned so far is about right.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:05 AM   #10
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Let's not forget gears, clutch, driveshaft, drag radials, weight reduction, suspension improvements, intake, throttle body. My understanding is any modifications that do not result in internal engine modifications (cam, heads, short block) or power adders (nitrous, turbo, supercharger).

Padre has done an outstanding job with his build and offers a lot of great advice on how to get this done correctly. His build thread should be sent to every new owner looking to do incremental changes.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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Thank you to everyone who has replied. I'll be sure to read Padre's build. I was just curious as to what is considered full bolt ons. I've got CAI, muffler delete at the moment. Looking at suspension next. Then headers, hi flo cats and probably a cam by summer. Thx again.

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Headers are pointless without the tune, correct? But that's not the case with exhaust and CAI?

Also with the tune, are you guys taking your car in for dyno, test and tune, and then dyno or just using handheld tuners at home?
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Let's not forget gears, clutch, driveshaft, drag radials, weight reduction, suspension improvements, intake, throttle body. My understanding is any modifications that do not result in internal engine modifications (cam, heads, short block) or power adders (nitrous, turbo, supercharger).

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I wouldn't consider gears (rear end) a bolt on.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:18 AM   #14
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I'm new to tinkering with cars, but in my thought things like suspension are in their own class. If you say that suspension mods are bolt ons...because they bolt on....well, supercharges are bolted on as well...along with any cosmetic mods etc. Wheels are bolt on, but they have their own catagory.

So, in short, I think bolt-on is specific to engine. Headers, high-flow or no cats, full exhaust, CAI, tune
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Headers are pointless without the tune, correct? But that's not the case with exhaust and CAI?

Also with the tune, are you guys taking your car in for dyno, test and tune, and then dyno or just using handheld tuners at home?
Moat people either get a dyno tune or get an custom tune via email from Ted Jannetty.


I know that suspension parts aren't bolt on. But I also know that ignoring the wheel hop problem our cars have can lead to a broken axle.
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Let's not forget gears, clutch, driveshaft, drag radials, weight reduction, suspension improvements, intake, throttle body. My understanding is any modifications that do not result in internal engine modifications (cam, heads, short block) or power adders (nitrous, turbo, supercharger).

Padre has done an outstanding job with his build and offers a lot of great advice on how to get this done correctly. His build thread should be sent to every new owner looking to do incremental changes.
I bolded the part of your statement that is what most consider bolt ons. Bolt ons usually just refer to the level of power making engine modifications you do. The other stuff you mentioned aren't usually considered bolt ons.
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I'm new to tinkering with cars, but in my thought things like suspension are in their own class. If you say that suspension mods are bolt ons...because they bolt on....well, supercharges are bolted on as well...along with any cosmetic mods etc. Wheels are bolt on, but they have their own catagory.

So, in short, I think bolt-on is specific to engine. Headers, high-flow or no cats, full exhaust, CAI, tune
Exactly.
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