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Old 04-02-2014, 09:21 AM   #1
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amsoil ?

Priced amsoil signature series at 9.50 a quart, which comes to 81.00 after taxes. Or i can get mobil 1 extended performance for 26.00 for five quarts at walmart. So basically 52.00 for 10 quarts. Is amsoil worth the 30.00 extra dollars?
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:22 AM   #2
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YES!
try to get the Amsoil filter as well.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:24 AM   #3
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And PLEASE, for the love of god and all things sacred and holy, if you do not change your own oil, take it to a local mechanic, please do not take it to the clowns at wal mart
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:30 AM   #4
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Check out the Driven/Joe Gibbs LS30 high Zinc Synthetic. It's specially formulated for LS engines and is just a touch more than Amsoil. We have been using it on all of our shop builds and our own cars. It's good stuff!

As for the filter, we run the AC Delco PF48R.

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Old 04-02-2014, 11:33 AM   #5
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i run amsoil full synthetic xl with their wix filters and love it. And i also agree on the avoiding walmart deal the one time i took my car their they put locktite on the drain plug
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:40 AM   #6
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Also, Mobil 1 used to be a great product.
I say used to because it USED to be a synthetic, then they lost a lawsuit and were able to change the law as to what defines a synthetic oil.
Amsoil, Redline, and from what I understand Brad Penn and Joe Gibbs oils, respectively are awesome.

I do know that several tests have been done on the amsoil filter, it has the least amount of flowback or backflow or something, I don't remember
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:47 AM   #7
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Is Royal Purple worth considering?
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:55 AM   #8
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I know RP used to be a great product.
I have heard a lot lately that it has gone down hill, ironically right around the same time that Mobil 1 went full retard.
I can tell you that Amsoil Signature claims that it only needs to be changed like every 25 thousand miles, which is a very bold statement.
I would never ever recomend running an engine for 25k miles without an oil change, fyi
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:03 PM   #9
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You might get a good idea on oil wear protection from this link and then make your decision. Very informative and seem to be unbiased about all the different oil brands.

http://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013...-test-ranking/
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:13 PM   #10
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You might get a good idea on oil wear protection from this link and then make your decision. Very informative and seem to be unbiased about all the different oil brands.

http://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013...-test-ranking/
Come on, that paper is nonsense.
The guy claims all of these scientific studies yet refuses to publish sources, refuses to publish the actual test data, and is clearly a shill for Prolong engine treatment, and this is one guy who supposedly did one unbiased test= anecdotal not emipracle evidence, at best.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:30 PM   #11
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I do not know and you could be correct, but Amsoil ranks very well by Him on wear protection.


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Come on, that paper is nonsense.
The guy claims all of these scientific studies yet refuses to publish sources, refuses to publish the actual test data, and is clearly a shill for Prolong engine treatment, and this is one guy who supposedly did one unbiased test= anecdotal not emipracle evidence, at best.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:40 PM   #12
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I am not saying that there are no valid points in his "research," but he is clearly trying to sell a specific product- not an oil but an additive, so his statements are suspect.
Furthermore, he makes statements such as "A Nascar Driver/Builder/designer" a "PhD Engineer" etc, yet at the end of his research, he does not list any names, dates or sources. I am not saying he is not legit, or his research is not legit.
I am saying that he is calling it "scientific," when in fact it is not.
Look up any real scientific study, medical, physics, whatever, all these things- sources, dates, names, etc are listed so that the study can be retested and proven accurate and valid and repeatable.

Any time anyone claims scientific data and does not provide these things up front treat it with a high degree of skepticism.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:11 PM   #13
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Thanks for that input, sounds like Amsoil is the product for me! Now here I go, what about oil filters.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:13 PM   #14
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No the price from walmart was just buying the oil. There is no way in hell I would let walmart change my oil. I'm going to get the amsoil. I do most of my own work to the car.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:20 PM   #15
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Thanks for that input, sounds like Amsoil is the product for me! Now here I go, what about oil filters.

All of the high end filters are good.
I know the Amsoil one tested the highest regarding flow back or back flow, which if I understand it was the tendency of the engine to bypass the filter when the engine is cold???
I honestly cannot remember, but it did test the highest.
I believe the K&N had the highest level of filtration (smallest particulate matter trapped)
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:46 PM   #16
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Amsoil + K&N filter works well for me. I may try the Amsoil filter too next time. The K&N is just so easy to remove with the nut welded to the end...lol!
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I know RP used to be a great product.
I have heard a lot lately that it has gone down hill, ironically right around the same time that Mobil 1 went full retard.
I can tell you that Amsoil Signature claims that it only needs to be changed like every 25 thousand miles, which is a very bold statement.
I would never ever recomend running an engine for 25k miles without an oil change, fyi
If you run your engine oil for 25K miles you'll be sorry... We just had a CTS-V come in here that was running Amsoil and they went 10K.... The lifters ate the camshaft and pretty much destroyed the engine.

"Designed for high performance LS series engines, LS30 reduces oil consumption by limiting oil vaporization and foaming. It utilizes advanced mPAO synthetic base oils to reduce valve train noise and to provide high temperature and high shear protection for GM LS based engines with and without variable valve timing. LS30 delivers industry leading shear stability and HTHS bearing oil film thickness. Ideal for LS-based crate engines and supercharged LS performance engines as well as any performance engine that calls for a 5W-30 viscosity. Viscosity typical of 5W-30."

We've used all of the top tier oils and the JGR Driven LS30 is the best for our cars; it was designed specifically for LS engines...

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Old 04-02-2014, 02:09 PM   #18
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If you run your engine oil for 25K miles you'll be sorry... We just had a CTS-V come in here that was running Amsoil and they went 10K.... The lifters ate the camshaft and pretty much destroyed the engine.

"Designed for high performance LS series engines, LS30 reduces oil consumption by limiting oil vaporization and foaming. It utilizes advanced mPAO synthetic base oils to reduce valve train noise and to provide high temperature and high shear protection for GM LS based engines with and without variable valve timing. LS30 delivers industry leading shear stability and HTHS bearing oil film thickness. Ideal for LS-based crate engines and supercharged LS performance engines as well as any performance engine that calls for a 5W-30 viscosity. Viscosity typical of 5W-30."

We've used all of the top tier oils and the JGR Driven LS30 is the best for our cars; it was designed specifically for LS engines...

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As noted in my original post
"I can tell you that Amsoil Signature claims that it only needs to be changed like every 25 thousand miles, which is a very bold statement.
I would never ever recomend running an engine for 25k miles without an oil change, fyi "

NOTE that I said not to do it, I did however point out the fact that Amsoil, not me, but Amsoil claims this
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:14 PM   #19
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Excuse me but is JGR Driven LS30 Amsoil? I was not aware of the Mobil oil deal that was discussed in the above thread and I just changed mine to it.It was the first oil change so now I am thinking of changing it again to amsoil if it is a better oil.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:31 PM   #20
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I know it's not an LS engine but I have a LandCruiser that has run over 350,000 miles using Amsoil and Amsoil filters. The oil/filter have been changed at 25K intervals or one year whichever occurred first. Ea15K50 is the Amsoil filter number for the LSA engine. Amsoil recommends changing this filter at 15K mile intervals. Use the 5W-30 Signature series oil. I ran the same oil in my '04 GTO with an LS1 engine (same lifters) for over 90,000 miles before I sold it. The change interval was 25K or one year also.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:57 AM   #21
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Thx for the info., getting ready to change my oil for the first time. Bought some race ramps. What brand/style of tool are you using to remove the oil filter with? Also are you using a torque wrench to tighten up the oil bolt and if so what setting are you using? I'll probably purchase a wireless electric device to remove all those bolts for the under belly removal. I found in the DIY section some good advice on how to remove the oil filter without a lot of mess and hassle. Which is to lightly poke a whole to the bottom of the filter so that the oil can drain out first, before removing the filter. Any of the chain auto part stores carry a decent magnet oil plug or any vendors on this forum sell them?
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:29 AM   #22
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Excuse me but is JGR Driven LS30 Amsoil? I was not aware of the Mobil oil deal that was discussed in the above thread and I just changed mine to it.It was the first oil change so now I am thinking of changing it again to amsoil if it is a better oil.

JGR and Amsoil are not the same.
They are both very high end oils produced by different companies.
I have personally used Amsoil and can vouch for its awesomeness.

I have not used Joe Gibbs Racing Oils, but have heard a lot of great things about them.

I have also heard a lot of great things about RedLine oil.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:21 AM   #23
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Once again opinions are like arse holes! As long as you use a premium dexos approved oil and change the oil and filter every 4000 miles / 6000 km's or twice a year for low mileage drivers you will NEVER have a lubrication related problem with your motor! Amsoil, Pennzoil Platinum, Mobil 1, Quaker State all offer a synthetic oil that will meet the requirements. Amsoil claims a pretty long interval but who the hell would push the oil that far! The key here is to change the oil and filter at regular intervals. Ya spend quite a bit on these cars. Over maintaining and keeping the oil physicals strong can only benefit not hurt!
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I know it's a different car BUT I use Amsoil Dominator 10w30.
Change oil every 5K miles.

Car is street driven roughly 700 miles a month.
just over 700 RWHP.
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everyone gives mobil 1 bad reviews over their motor oil
http://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013...-test-ranking/

looks good to me at number 9.
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