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Old 01-15-2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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If its worth building a CAI, its worth overdoing

this was my weekend project, I just couldn't bring myself to paying 300+ for a lame CAI, so i decided for the same price i could build a true ram air.
It is probably the last practical CAI ever, but camaros are not meant to be practical. it is stainless steel, and 4.5 inch diameter. the maf is placed near upper radiator hose, hidden away.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:01 PM   #2
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Wow, how's it drive?!
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:03 PM   #3
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horrible, wayy to much air flow. need to get it tuned
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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What did you use for the piping and is the filter assembly fabbed or premade, looks good innovative
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:10 PM   #5
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i went to a local wholesale pipe place and bought the preformed 90s and the pipe, schedule 5 stainless steel. and the box i made from sheet metal, with my plasma cutter and welder. not the prettiest thing ever, but it is sealed.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:12 PM   #6
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Id like to see dyno results! Usually,with piping that long, it can hinder performance regardless of being ram air or not.

Either way, great fab work!
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horrible, wayy to much air flow. need to get it tuned
It's probably running bad because you moved the MAF. It's still reading as if it were in the same place which will through your tune way out of wack. A tune would be able to fix that. It does look though, cool color scheme.
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Id like to see dyno results! Usually,with piping that long, it can hinder performance regardless of being ram air or not.

Either way, great fab work!
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:19 PM   #9
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Id like to see dyno results! Usually,with piping that long, it can hinder performance regardless of being ram air or not.

Either way, great fab work!
yeah ill post it up, i was worried about that too. i had 436 with a cam, and it was dying for more air.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:22 PM   #10
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looks good.it seems to me , you are going to be sucking a lot of water thru there and can you change the filter w/o pulling the front end off.i'm not hitting on your install , you did a nice job , i'm just curious.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:24 PM   #11
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looks good.it seems to me , you are going to be sucking a lot of water thru there and can you change the filter w/o pulling the front end off.i'm not hitting on your install , you did a nice job , i'm just curious.
thats why its not practical, but it is just my toy. it is not even street legal, i use it as a drifter. around 500 miles all year
nope front end has to come off to get to it, but even on the K and N box it says 50,000 miles between cleanings, and i have 2.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:32 PM   #12
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Kudo's for trying something completely outside of the box. But like others I'd be curious as to what your fuel trims look like.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:20 PM   #13
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Just thought i would let you guys know my intake did great
435.9 hp and 398 torque before the intake with just large cam and cheap headers
461.4 hp and 422 torque after the intake install. The area below the whole curve is huge, addition of 35 hp at 5000 rpm. The only change was the intake, and the addition of a breather. Same shop, dyno, temp, tuner, and barometric pressure.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:56 PM   #14
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That's awesome man good job. How much did it end up costing all said and done? If you don't mind me asking...
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:58 PM   #15
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250 plus the aircleaners, i think 70 a piece. And the tune 200.
Had a lot of the stuff in my garage, welding, paint and bondo stuff
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:40 AM   #16
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Is the whole thing 4.5in tubing?
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I'm very surprised that it performanced that well. as the entrance to the throttle body looks very much misalligned.
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Old 01-29-2012, 10:49 AM   #18
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Is the whole thing 4.5in tubing?
Yeah all the way down to the box, which is sheet metal. It has a rather large volume too
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:49 AM   #19
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I think it looks hardcore. Nice work!

I'm also surprised that it gained 25rwhp ? (was that over the OEM airbox?)

Surprised, as I would think that both the misalignment and that accordion bellows boot at the TB transistion, would cause a significant amount of turbulence and loss of air flow? I think there is more to be gained by smoothing out this transistion...

If you're convinced that you got a 25rwhp gain, you could productize and sell this. Nobody else has has intake with that kind of a gain (with a tune required)
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Looks like you need a better reducing coupler. I got one for my turbo Supra from siliconintakes.com. The quality is great and they have a large selection. They also have t-bolt clamps on there. Props on the work though! It looks pretty good.
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:19 PM   #21
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yeah i know about the reducing coupler, i just cut up the stock intake to make it work for now, i had to order the new coupler. I seriously doubt that coupler will make any noticable power changes, because the entire coupler is larger than the throttle body. And yes i went from a stock intake, stock aircleaner, to this. the before was a full 4 hour tune, for just cam and headers. the after was just the addition of the intake, 1 hr tune.
so both numbers are full tuned figures

I am NOT interested in making these, i have my hand in too many other projects. If any of the sponsors are interested in making these, let me know i can help you out on design, placement, and my issues. i just wanted to spread the knowledge.

the old ambient conditions were a little different than i thought they were.
the old was 62 degrees, 23.77 pressure, 27% humidity
the new was 78 degrees, 24.54 pressure, and 5% humidity.
I think the data washes out based on the circumstances though.

runs great by the way, already left some rubber on the roads lol
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yeah i know about the reducing coupler, i just cut up the stock intake to make it work for now, i had to order the new coupler. I seriously doubt that coupler will make any noticable power changes, because the entire coupler is larger than the throttle body. And yes i went from a stock intake, stock aircleaner, to this. the before was a full 4 hour tune, for just cam and headers. the after was just the addition of the intake, 1 hr tune.
so both numbers are full tuned figures

I am NOT interested in making these, i have my hand in too many other projects. If any of the sponsors are interested in making these, let me know i can help you out on design, placement, and my issues. i just wanted to spread the knowledge.

the old ambient conditions were a little different than i thought they were.
the old was 62 degrees, 23.77 pressure, 27% humidity
the new was 78 degrees, 24.54 pressure, and 5% humidity.
I think the data washes out based on the circumstances though.

runs great by the way, already left some rubber on the roads lol
That's some awesome numbers. Though only thing I'm quesioning/concerned about is how rough the line is.
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That's some awesome numbers. Though only thing I'm quesioning/concerned about is how rough the line is.
Smoothing = 0 on the chart's line
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His tube is 4.5in diameter where the OEM one is ~4.0. That's the reason why it drove like shit after he installed it and had a nice gain after the tune. The MAF is calibrated to the OEM diameter so he was bypassing a LOT of air that wasn't being counted. I know Halltech's original carbon fiber intake was larger in diameter and had to be tuned to remap the MAF sensor. From memory, he was claiming a decent amount of gain over the OEM size Yellowjacket.

Very interesting design. When I first saw it, it reminded me of the FMIC CAI's that some of the ricers were sporting.
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horrible, wayy to much air flow. need to get it tuned
Wont the computer makes its own adjustments of the Air Flow after a few hunnert miles of driving?
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