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Old 04-23-2009, 07:51 AM   #1
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V8 A Dying Breed...

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Old 04-23-2009, 07:57 AM   #2
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If you look back over the last 30 years, this same article can be found about once every ten years.
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The thing is that with technology, the V8 keeps getting better and more efficient. That being said .. technology can also do some pretty good things now with smaller engines and F/I !! ....should be interesting for the enthusist either way !

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Old 04-23-2009, 10:18 AM   #5
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If you look back over the last 30 years, this same article can be found about once every ten years.
That's true. I wasn't trying to make a statement, just wanted to post the article. But it does make a point that the SS might be more valuable in the future.
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The SS already gets better mileage than a bunch of V6's and 4 bangers while making 100 or more hp. And the new generation of engines will be even better.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:11 PM   #7
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The SS already gets better mileage than a bunch of V6's and 4 bangers while making 100 or more hp. And the new generation of engines will be even better.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:42 PM   #10
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If you look back over the last 30 years, this same article can be found about once every ten years.
This is true, but- it does seem that the powers arrayed against V8s and fossil fuels in general have more sway nationally than they ever have before. And there are some working alternatives for the green folks to rally behind. And GM is in a position where some very anti-fossil fuels folks are going to have a large say in GM's future product lines. You also have very prominent senators AND the CEO of Ford saying that gas prices are too low right now. If it wasn't for the economy, you'd be seeing bills right now to set a floor via taxation for gas at $3.50 to $4.00.

I don't think it's the end per se, but I think they are going to be rarer and more of a luxury.
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This is true, but- it does seem that the powers arrayed against V8s and fossil fuels in general have more sway nationally than they ever have before. And there are some working alternatives for the green folks to rally behind. And GM is in a position where some very anti-fossil fuels folks are going to have a large say in GM's future product lines. You also have very prominent senators AND the CEO of Ford saying that gas prices are too low right now. If it wasn't for the economy, you'd be seeing bills right now to set a floor via taxation for gas at $3.50 to $4.00.

I don't think it's the end per se, but I think they are going to be rarer and more of a luxury.
Indeed. I think the true arguement is that the V10's and V12's are on the out. and probably not even them. Most likely we'll be seeing these engines until electric cars that do 0-60 in 4.5 sec are 30K. Could be a while.
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This is true, but- it does seem that the powers arrayed against V8s and fossil fuels in general have more sway nationally than they ever have before. And there are some working alternatives for the green folks to rally behind. And GM is in a position where some very anti-fossil fuels folks are going to have a large say in GM's future product lines. You also have very prominent senators AND the CEO of Ford saying that gas prices are too low right now. If it wasn't for the economy, you'd be seeing bills right now to set a floor via taxation for gas at $3.50 to $4.00.

I don't think it's the end per se, but I think they are going to be rarer and more of a luxury.
GM has more invested than anybody in various alternative fuels

largest flex fuel fleet, and money invested in cellulose ethanol development
range extended electric cars
hydrogen fuel cell test program
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:57 AM   #13
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Indeed. I think the true arguement is that the V10's and V12's are on the out. and probably not even them. Most likely we'll be seeing these engines until electric cars that do 0-60 in 4.5 sec are 30K. Could be a while.
+1, until then there will always be a market for v8 power and muscle cars
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:44 AM   #14
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The thing is that with technology, the V8 keeps getting better and more efficient. That being said .. technology can also do some pretty good things now with smaller engines and F/I !! ....should be interesting for the enthusist either way !

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Old 04-30-2009, 04:46 AM   #15
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If the V8 does survive well in to the future, the engine will most assuredly have a much smaller displacement.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:52 AM   #16
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The SS makes 1 MPG more than my 350Z on the highway according to the EPA (I actually get around 28, but I'd bet the Camaro beats EPA estimates as well). But I still wouldn't rule out something like a 3.x liter F/I V8 in the future. A lot of people might hate the lower displacement but I would love the factory F/I and how easily those engines generally respond to cheap mods
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v8s on a car can get more mpg than v6s on trucks. What's with the fuss!
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v8s on a car can get more mpg than v6s on trucks. What's with the fuss!
V8's in trucks can get more mpg than V6's in trucks
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:05 PM   #19
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GM has more invested than anybody in various alternative fuels

largest flex fuel fleet, and money invested in cellulose ethanol development
range extended electric cars
hydrogen fuel cell test program
Do you have a link to this information? I would like to show it to some people. Thanks.
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Do you have a link to this information? I would like to show it to some people. Thanks.
Sorry, I don't have a stock pile of links on the subject. But a search on google on the following should prove helpful.

Cellulose: GM and Coskata
Fuel Cells: Equinox Fuel Cell
Extended Range Electric: Chevrolet Volt/Voltec
Flex Fuel: nothing specific to look for

Also, GM facts and Fiction should have a lot of this information, straight from the source.
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