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View Poll Results: How Should GM Build The 1LE?
1SS/LS3 + MRC + MG9 + ZL1 Brakes/Wheels/Tires/Diff/Axles + 3.73 = 1LE 164 62.84%
2SS as Starting Point 55 21.07%
More Engine Than LS3 Required 102 39.08%
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:44 AM   #1
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How Should Chevrolet Build The 1LE?

At fbodfather's request, please vote in the poll...

As well, if not enough "choices" were given, add your version here...

BTW, it's MULTIPLE CHOICE!
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:46 AM   #2
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poll?


fail on me, it just wasn't up yet....Its too early to make comments, I guess. lol
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:04 AM   #3
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I like a combo of options 1&2. Question....what's MG9?
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MG9 is the HD Tremec 6-speed, Standard on the ZL1. Stronger trans. means fewer "issues", down the road, for YOU and GM...
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The concept description just says close ratio transmission. I would like that to mean MG9. Basically I want Lowdown's sig but an LS3 instead of an LS7, mostly because I believe an LS7 would put the car too close to ZL1 territory and price.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:48 AM   #6
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The concept description just says close ratio transmission. I would like that to mean MG9. Basically I want Lowdown's sig but an LS3 instead of an LS7.
...which should have it priced very close to a Base BOSS...about $40-42K...
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:55 AM   #7
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i think there needs to be a weight reduction choice to with if possible both 1&2. If not than option 1
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:10 AM   #8
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An LS3 engine with more cam in it would fit the bill. The LS7 would add to much the cost I'm thinking.
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Combo of 1 & 2.....

Whatever engine they use it SHOULD be NA. JMO
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
Sounds like we should scratch this thread and start over....
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If the choice is build it or don't build it.... I vote definately build it.

I really like a lot of the 1LE stuff... but also really like 2SS and RS content stuff. So maybe another version down the road based on a 2SS/RS and a little bump to the LS3 power, 1LE content, Z28 badges!
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
AS we see it!!!
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:53 AM   #14
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The only thing I wanted was the option to add different gears from the factory. Too late now obviously but would have been nice.
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
I would say leave the suspension as is. A SS with a ZL1's suspension should be fun. Unless of course you decide to make it even better. Though a set of adjustable performance shocks and struts would definitely be interesting and a cheaper option than a mag-ride setup.
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.
Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.

Please...... give us a couple of options... please.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:24 PM   #17
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I say build it. But if I may state my wish. I would love to see a Camaro that has the jay leno Camaro appearance with a V8 with around let's say 472hp I don't believe it would take all that much to bump the ls3 to that hp. This could be the boss 302 and SRT392 competition while the ZL1 takes care of the GT500 and SS takes care of the GT and R/T.
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

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Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
As I wrote in the other thread:

Build the 1LE, but fit it in a slot like the Grand Sport is for Corvette. Save the Z/28 for the Z06 like spot.

Take what the 1LE concept as is, add a dry sump oil system and 3:73 gears and you're all set!! Offer a competition option for those that want it with Michelin Pilot Cup tires (maybe rear seat delete too), similar to what you can order on the Z06 & ZR1.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:56 PM   #19
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If I had the cash...

I'd want the 2SS options with the mag ride suspension and a bump in HP. I know that's like asking for a ZL1 minus the supercharger, but that's very similar. Maybe a 1SS bump in HP with mag ride?
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As I wrote in the other thread:

Build the 1LE, but fit it in a slot like the Grand Sport is for Corvette. Save the Z/28 for the Z06 like spot.

Take what the 1LE concept as is, add a dry sump oil system and 3:73 gears and you're all set!! Offer a competition option for those that want it with Michelin Pilot Cup tires (maybe rear seat delete too), similar to what you can order on the Z06 & ZR1.
but if they do that than the ZL1 would need a boost in hp to otherwise the Z28 will be almost the same as the ZL1 unless you want the Z28 to be more powerfull than the ZL1 but than the ZR1 corvette needs a increase just to stay out on top with the hp. although that would be awesome if it played out like this cause than everything gets uped in HP and we all win Unless this isnt what you were stating or going with than nvm what i said in this post haha
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1ss with modded exhaust optional cut outs. Maybe standard CAI then add everything from option 1.
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mmmmmm............for the record - the question I have is:

Should we offer the concept as you see it

or

Should we not offer the concept as you see it.

Very important to understand that powertrains aren't 'plug and play' -

You can't just grab and engine or a transmission or an axle and put it into the powertrain - there are all kinds of algorithms -- from throttle control to ABS to traction control.....etc.etc.etc.
fbodfather...what about the GMPP LS3/525 crate engine? Is that still a viable LS3 variation with the existing powertrain? If so I think that would be very attractive along with everything else that was already listed.
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SEG, anything from the GMPP catalog that does NOT have an RPO is NOT a "production-ready" engine. And, as in the case of an LS7, it may only be valid (at this moment) in a particular vehicle (LS7 = Vette-only).

So, for a limited run (Gen-5 only has 3 Model Years ['13-'14-'15] left, as we speak) for a limited time period, going to ALL that effort and expense is a remote possibility...and gets more remote with each passing month...
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Yes! It will sell. It will slow the aftermarket down a little, but that will be GM's gain. This will fill in the pricepoint and performance void between the SS and the ZL1.

I only ask one thing, put the "Hot Wheels" hood on the car!!!

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So, for a limited run (Gen-5 only has 3 Model Years ['13-'14-'15] left, as we speak) for a limited time period, going to ALL that effort and expense is a remote possibility...and gets more remote with each passing month...
:( It's a very depressing thought......
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