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Old 01-26-2012, 04:30 PM   #126
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Now wait a sec, the one that sold at the Barrett Jackson Auction was supposed to end in 69 I believe so I think you may be wrong MLEE.
It will be the 69th built, but I'm not sure how thy got 69 on the VIN... hopefully they did...

They make Buicks, Impalas, Equinox and the numbers are mixed. Also they have built a ton of 2012 Camaros already produced. Don't think numbering is going to start all over for the ZL1

We will be seeing VINs in the next few days so you will see for sure then.
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Since we are half way through the 2012 MY and they are mixed with Impalas and others it won't be like in 2009. Those are the only ones that are sequentually numbered...
The Impala and Equinox are on the Consolidated line and as such, have no bearing on the Camaros VIN sequencing. Camaro is on the Flex line with the Buick Regal and soon, the Cadillac XTS.
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:46 PM   #128
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i am no expert but i need to comment on 2 things.... remember i may be 100% wrong, but i think im correct.

1. Everyone commenting they might be #1 cuz they ordered SIM.... Mike works in the body shop... he sees ZL1's before paint. hence him saying they were ALL silver....

2. 2012 VIN's are not mixed with other carlines, brands, etc. all Camaro VIN's are sequential... the last 8 of your VIN are what tells you year, retail/pre-production, and sequence number. example A9100001 is the 1st 2010 Retail Production camaro off the line (A=2010, 9=Retail, 1=1st Production run, 00001=sequence 1) C9265777 is the 165,777th 2012 (C=2012,9=regular production, 2=2nd production run (switched from 1 to 2 after 99,999) 65777= 65,777 in run 2.). even tho Oshawa builds Regals on the same line as well camaro vin's are sequential and unique to the camaro car line. with that said special editions (ie ZL1) are not sequenced any different.
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i am no expert but i need to comment on 2 things.... remember i may be 100% wrong, but i think im correct.

1. Everyone commenting they might be #1 cuz they ordered SIM.... Mike works in the body shop... he sees ZL1's before paint. hence him saying they were ALL silver....

2. 2012 VIN's are not mixed with other carlines, brands, etc. all Camaro VIN's are sequential... the last 8 of your VIN are what tells you year, retail/pre-production, and sequence number. example A9100001 is the 1st 2010 Retail Production camaro off the line (A=2010, 9=Retail, 1=1st Production run, 00001=sequence 1) C9265777 is the 165,777th 2012 (C=2012,9=regular production, 2=2nd production run (switched from 1 to 2 after 99,999) 65777= 65,777 in run 2.). even tho Oshawa builds Regals on the same line as well camaro vin's are sequential and unique to the camaro car line. with that said special editions (ie ZL1) are not sequenced any different.
1. Correct. Mike sees them when they are raw steel so all he see are "silver" camaros. His comment has nothing to do with what colors were built today.

2. 10th digit is the model year, 11th digit is the plant and remaining 6 digits are the sequence numbers. Sequences are reset to 100001 for each model at the beginning of each model year.
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Now that we have the first day of ZL1 production underway...... can we move on to the topic of Z/28 production.........
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #131
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:07 PM   #132
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Can someone explain to me what this means? Since I am still waiting to place my order.

"As the start of retail production occurs this week, the third exclusive cycle for dealers to submit orders for the 2012 Camaro ZL1 starts this Thursday, January 26, 2012"
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Can someone explain to me what this means? Since I am still waiting to place my order.

"As the start of retail production occurs this week, the third exclusive cycle for dealers to submit orders for the 2012 Camaro ZL1 starts this Thursday, January 26, 2012"
This means that dealers who have ZL1 allocations but have not submitted orders yet (since it wouldn't have been recognized by GM anyway) can begin ordering them today if their allocation became open.

I.E. Dealer was told he would get 4 ZL1s. In the first round of ordering he coudl order 2. In the second round of ordering he could order 0, in this round of ordering he could be able to order 1, 2, or 0
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...... with that said special editions (ie ZL1) are not sequenced any different.
Correct except for cars they use to test with, CTF cars and cars such as Hendricks carbon flash metallic ZL1 which will be sequenced as 000069.
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Can someone explain to me what this means? Since I am still waiting to place my order.

"As the start of retail production occurs this week, the third exclusive cycle for dealers to submit orders for the 2012 Camaro ZL1 starts this Thursday, January 26, 2012"
Why haven't you placed your order?
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Why haven't you placed your order?
If he's like me, the dealer wouldn't take my order until they were allowed to place their allocation.
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If he's like me, the dealer wouldn't take my order until they were allowed to place their allocation.
You can order at anytime it just won't get picked up by GM until the dealer has a allocation.... Im confused I think....
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Why haven't you placed your order?
Well when I talked to my dealer he told me the current allocations had already been taken but he would have 2 more end of Jan beginning of Feb. So I thought this may have been what he was talking about.
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okay im real confused...what is the carbon fiber hood insert that was causing problems??? im lost on what this issue is someone help?
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Well when I talked to my dealer he told me the current allocations had already been taken but he would have 2 more end of Jan beginning of Feb. So I thought this may have been what he was talking about.
You should still be able to place your order and get a order number. It just won't get picked up by GM until the dealer has another allocation.

Kind of like all the ZL1 buyers that "ordered" their cars a while ago....
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so if your dealer hasnt picked you up by now you may not see this car for awile? please educate me on this subject matter thank you
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so if your dealer hasnt picked you up by now you may not see this car for awile? please educate me on this subject matter thank you
I am fine with waiting. I just wish there was a way to know for sure if my dealer is getting another allocation. I have bought 3 new trucks thru them so I don't think they would screw me, but if their not I will look elsewhere.
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I am fine with waiting. I just wish there was a way to know for sure if my dealer is getting another allocation. I have bought 3 new trucks thru them so I don't think they would screw me, but if their not I will look elsewhere.
same here i dont mind waiting but i do mind waiting for nothing :/ so no more orders are being accepted for the ZL1? so no 2012 for me?
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so if your dealer hasnt picked you up by now you may not see this car for awile? please educate me on this subject matter thank you
You have a order number so your "order" has been placed. As long as your dealer has more allocations for the 2012 model year you are good to go!
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How much is the exposed carbon fiber if we get it at the dealer?
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You have a order number so your "order" has been placed. As long as your dealer has more allocations for the 2012 model year you are good to go!
are there more orders being accepted at a later date? what im understanding is today is the last day to place orders? or orders being accepted by GM?
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