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alybudhwani · 01-30-2012, 08:39 PM

hey guys, i installed front and rear hotchkis sway bars about a week ago. about 3 to 4 days ago they started making like a squeaking noise every time i would hit a bump or something on the road. its pretty annoying. i called the shop that installed them for me and they said that it was normal for aftermarket sways to do that and that the guys there did torque everything to the right numbers. the shop is really reputable too. any suggestions from you guys that could help me fix this problem?

also, the front is the only one that seems to be making noise, the back is completely fine.

thanks in advance!

bajamoon · 01-30-2012, 09:00 PM

It's not normal for sways to be making noises. Maybe the end links are binding or hitting the spring. Get a flashlight and see if you see any rub marks.

Send a pm to Mike @ hotchkis and see if they can take care of it if you are local.

alybudhwani · 01-30-2012, 09:04 PM

okay, will do. thanks!

JusticePete · 01-30-2012, 11:28 PM

Squeaking is a caused by a dry sway bar D bush. Take your car back to the shop and have them re-grease the inner portion of the front sway bar d bushes.

Michael@Hotchkis · 01-31-2012, 08:49 AM

Thank you Justicepete for the reply. I would do exactly as he said and take it back to the shop that did the install and have them properly grease the bushing. If the squeeking is still present give me a call.

alybudhwani · 01-31-2012, 07:50 PM

i went to the shop today and they re-greased everything and its still squeaking. they did do an alignment on the car after they put on the front sway bar, if that makes a difference?

bajamoon · 01-31-2012, 08:14 PM

PM Mike. Are you close to Hotchkis?

JusticePete · 01-31-2012, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alybudhwani

i went to the shop today and they re-greased everything and its still squeaking. they did do an alignment on the car after they put on the front sway bar, if that makes a difference?

That doesn't sound right

All you had done were sway bars, correct? Please get with Michael.

JusticePete · 01-31-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael@Hotchkis

Justicepete

Michael,

What is that blue thing in your avatar?

alybudhwani · 01-31-2012, 09:23 PM

he said he only had to do it cause he took off my wheel and something else. and yes ive spoken to michael before and im pretty close. and ill PM him now >.<

alybudhwani · 01-31-2012, 09:30 PM

and do you guys just think its the sways themselves? ive been going to this shop for a while and i know they can easily do a simple sway bar installation. so im not sure what the real problem is :(

JusticePete · 01-31-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alybudhwani

and do you guys just think its the sways themselves? ive been going to this shop for a while and i know they can easily do a simple sway bar installation. so im not sure what the real problem is :(

The odds against the sway bar being bad and causing a squeak are about 1,000,000 to 1. It is a powder coated steel tube. What could go wrong with it

For some reason, the bush is dry and squeaking. Michael will help you sort it out.

alybudhwani · 01-31-2012, 09:51 PM

okay cool! and how could the bushing be dry i saw him lube it? maybe it didnt get all around the bushing? and i think i read somewhere that it could also be the endlinks?

sorry for all the questions

JusticePete · 01-31-2012, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alybudhwani

okay cool! and how could the bushing be dry i saw him lube it? maybe it didnt get all around the bushing? and i think i read somewhere that it could also be the endlinks?

sorry for all the questions

My guess is there is a dry spot or two. It could be some debris got in there.

alybudhwani · 02-01-2012, 01:38 AM

hmm that could be true. but would that be enough to make the car make so much noise?

Avalnch · 02-01-2012, 02:17 AM

What kind of grease did they use? The bars should have come with that clear/opaque grease that is really, really sticky. Can't recall the name, but someone will chime in, I'm sure. Regular axle grease will squish out and wear away.

Can you hear the sqeaking if you open your hood and then bounce the car up and down? Or shake it side to side?

BTW, there is no reason to do an alignment after only sway bars.

Michael@Hotchkis · 02-01-2012, 09:35 AM

Bring the car by today and let me take a look at it please.

Also what end links are you running?

PfadtRacing · 02-01-2012, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalnch

What kind of grease did they use? The bars should have come with that clear/opaque grease that is really, really sticky. Can't recall the name, but someone will chime in, I'm sure. Regular axle grease will squish out and wear away.

We include Energy Suspension Formula Number 5 with all of our sway bar packages and any kit that includes Polyurethane. It's SUPER tacky and resists breaking down to water and contaminates really well. Avalnch is right, a normal lithium based grease may work short term but a quality grease will be more effective and last quite a bit longer.

RIDE-F-X · 02-01-2012, 12:11 PM

Is there a shaft collar bolted onto the sway bar to keep the bar centered? I would check to make sure the sides of the collar where it will rub the bushing is lubed as well.

Avalnch · 02-01-2012, 03:24 PM

Well, the expensive fix would be to get a really loud exhaust! ^_^

eblake98 · 02-01-2012, 04:24 PM

I had the same problem after install... due to Hotchkis supply of silicone grease is hard to use ( no cartridge) shops tend to use OE lube..I bought a cartridge of sil. lube from Hotchkis and took it back to the the installer and had them relube..problem solved.

alybudhwani · 02-01-2012, 05:03 PM

michael where exactly are you located? PM me

and i am running stock endlinks

and the shop said they used the grease that came with the sways.

bajamoon · 02-01-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alybudhwani

michael where exactly are you located? PM me

and i am running stock endlinks

and the shop said they used the grease that came with the sways.

8633 Sorensen Ave

Santa Fe Springs, Ca 90670

By the corner of Slauson and Sorenson

JusticePete · 02-01-2012, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avalnch

What kind of grease did they use? The bars should have come with that clear/opaque grease that is really, really sticky. Can't recall the name, but someone will chime in, I'm sure. Regular axle grease will squish out and wear away.

Can you hear the sqeaking if you open your hood and then bounce the car up and down? Or shake it side to side?

BTW, there is no reason to do an alignment after only sway bars.

There could be if they loosened the rack to slide the old front bar out.

Michael@Hotchkis · 02-03-2012, 08:50 AM

I sent a PM to you alybud. Did you get it?

01-30-2012, 08:39 PM	#1
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	Hotchkis problems :( hey guys, i installed front and rear hotchkis sway bars about a week ago. about 3 to 4 days ago they started making like a squeaking noise every time i would hit a bump or something on the road. its pretty annoying. i called the shop that installed them for me and they said that it was normal for aftermarket sways to do that and that the guys there did torque everything to the right numbers. the shop is really reputable too. any suggestions from you guys that could help me fix this problem? also, the front is the only one that seems to be making noise, the back is completely fine. thanks in advance! __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

01-30-2012, 09:04 PM	#3
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	okay, will do. thanks! __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

01-30-2012, 11:28 PM	#4
JusticePete Needs Lowering Drives: Pedders USA Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 13,626	Squeaking is a caused by a dry sway bar D bush. Take your car back to the shop and have them re-grease the inner portion of the front sway bar d bushes. __________________ Camaro Information \| Buy Pedders Parts \| Pedders Dealers \| The 5th Gen Book \| GMPP \| SEMA Hot Wheels Camaro Brochure \| EOD Fund Facebook Pedders Head Office 248.522.8021

01-31-2012, 07:50 PM	#6
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	i went to the shop today and they re-greased everything and its still squeaking. they did do an alignment on the car after they put on the front sway bar, if that makes a difference? __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

01-31-2012, 09:23 PM	#10
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	he said he only had to do it cause he took off my wheel and something else. and yes ive spoken to michael before and im pretty close. and ill PM him now >.< __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

01-30-2012, 09:00 PM	#2
bajamoon Drives: 2011 1ss rs Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Whittier CA Posts: 12,119 View My Garage	It's not normal for sways to be making noises. Maybe the end links are binding or hitting the spring. Get a flashlight and see if you see any rub marks. Send a pm to Mike @ hotchkis and see if they can take care of it if you are local.

01-31-2012, 08:49 AM	#5
Michael@Hotchkis Drives: 2011 Mustang RTR Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Redondo Beach Ca Posts: 146	Thank you Justicepete for the reply. I would do exactly as he said and take it back to the shop that did the install and have them properly grease the bushing. If the squeeking is still present give me a call.

01-31-2012, 08:14 PM	#7
bajamoon Drives: 2011 1ss rs Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Whittier CA Posts: 12,119 View My Garage	PM Mike. Are you close to Hotchkis?

01-31-2012, 09:30 PM	#11
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	and do you guys just think its the sways themselves? ive been going to this shop for a while and i know they can easily do a simple sway bar installation. so im not sure what the real problem is :( __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

01-31-2012, 09:51 PM	#13
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	okay cool! and how could the bushing be dry i saw him lube it? maybe it didnt get all around the bushing? and i think i read somewhere that it could also be the endlinks? sorry for all the questions __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

02-01-2012, 01:38 AM	#15
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	hmm that could be true. but would that be enough to make the car make so much noise? __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

02-01-2012, 02:17 AM	#16
Avalnch Drives: Rally Yellow Camaro+Avalanche Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 675	What kind of grease did they use? The bars should have come with that clear/opaque grease that is really, really sticky. Can't recall the name, but someone will chime in, I'm sure. Regular axle grease will squish out and wear away. Can you hear the sqeaking if you open your hood and then bounce the car up and down? Or shake it side to side? BTW, there is no reason to do an alignment after only sway bars. __________________ C.A.I., Apex Scoop, ARH LT, Pypes Cat Back, Barton Short Throw, JDP Tow Hook Scorch Yellow Trim Kit, Shark Fin, AAC DRLs+ABLs+SMDs, ZTA Rear Spoiler Pfadt coilovers, camber plates, trailing arms & differential bushings. BMR adjustable toe-rods. Pedders ZL1 barz, rear cradle inserts, radius arm & steering rack bushings. Hotchkis Max Chassis Brace (minus tunnel cross-over piece for SCCA rules) 1LE 3.91 gearzzz. Drive Shaft Shop Road Race Axle Upgrade. TurnOne power steering pump. Forgeline GA3-R 19x11 + Hoosier R6 315/30R19 426 HP @ 5550 RPM / 427 TQ @ 4700 RPM

02-01-2012, 09:35 AM	#17
Michael@Hotchkis Drives: 2011 Mustang RTR Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Redondo Beach Ca Posts: 146	Bring the car by today and let me take a look at it please. Also what end links are you running?

02-01-2012, 12:11 PM	#19
RIDE-F-X Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York Posts: 41	Is there a shaft collar bolted onto the sway bar to keep the bar centered? I would check to make sure the sides of the collar where it will rub the bushing is lubed as well.

02-01-2012, 03:24 PM	#20
Avalnch Drives: Rally Yellow Camaro+Avalanche Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 675	Well, the expensive fix would be to get a really loud exhaust! ^_^ __________________ C.A.I., Apex Scoop, ARH LT, Pypes Cat Back, Barton Short Throw, JDP Tow Hook Scorch Yellow Trim Kit, Shark Fin, AAC DRLs+ABLs+SMDs, ZTA Rear Spoiler Pfadt coilovers, camber plates, trailing arms & differential bushings. BMR adjustable toe-rods. Pedders ZL1 barz, rear cradle inserts, radius arm & steering rack bushings. Hotchkis Max Chassis Brace (minus tunnel cross-over piece for SCCA rules) 1LE 3.91 gearzzz. Drive Shaft Shop Road Race Axle Upgrade. TurnOne power steering pump. Forgeline GA3-R 19x11 + Hoosier R6 315/30R19 426 HP @ 5550 RPM / 427 TQ @ 4700 RPM

02-01-2012, 04:24 PM	#21
eblake98 Drives: 2010 Black Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 18 View My Garage	I had the same problem after install... due to Hotchkis supply of silicone grease is hard to use ( no cartridge) shops tend to use OE lube..I bought a cartridge of sil. lube from Hotchkis and took it back to the the installer and had them relube..problem solved.

02-01-2012, 05:03 PM	#22
alybudhwani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Aqua Metallic Blue Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: socal Posts: 167 View My Garage	michael where exactly are you located? PM me and i am running stock endlinks and the shop said they used the grease that came with the sways. __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167460 check out my build seriously though...

02-03-2012, 08:50 AM	#25
Michael@Hotchkis Drives: 2011 Mustang RTR Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Redondo Beach Ca Posts: 146	I sent a PM to you alybud. Did you get it?

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