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Old 01-31-2012, 04:38 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Phastek Performance X5 Camaro - Turbonetics Turbo Kit Install pics

Here are some pictures of our Turbonetics Turbo Kit Installation on our 2010 X5 Camaro at our shop in Houston. More updates and dyno numbers coming soon!

Update: Video on page 2







































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Video on page 2

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Old 01-31-2012, 04:46 PM   #2
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Very nice and I love to see shops that are as clean as their installs.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:48 PM   #3
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:53 PM   #4
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Great pictures! Brings a new meaning to "clean inside and out."

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Old 01-31-2012, 05:03 PM   #5
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Looks Great!

U going to leave the factory cats on there?
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:15 PM   #6
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damn that looks so sweet! but it's waaaaaay too much plumbing for me.

that seems like there'd be too many things that could go wrong initially and over long periods of time.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:59 PM   #7
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Today we headed over to LMR to get some quick baseline dyno numbers, using the preloaded 91 octane tune from Turbonetics, via the DiabloSport Predator they include in the LS3 kits (L99 cars use an SCT programmer).

With the complete bolt-on, plug-and-play setup, the car made 491 horsepower and 515 torque on the DynoJet. SAE numbers, at about 8-9 lbs of boost.

As far as street driving, the boost comes in nice and smooth, and pulls hard all the way to 6,000+ RPMs. Full boost comes in by about 3,000 RPMs, with peak torque from 4,000-5,000 RPMs, and holds boost all the way to the redline



















Next week, we will be removing the stock catalytic converter pipes for some cat-delete pipes, making some other small changes, and the heading back to the dyno for a 93 octane custom tune. Can't wait to see what it makes with no cats and a more aggressive tune!
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:09 PM   #8
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good looking install...
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:51 PM   #9
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There were the BEST installation pictures of this kit (Not to mention the great installation itself). Turbonetics should License these pictures to be put part of this Kit's profile. I never knew the kit was designed and fit so nicely, until now.

Great job on both parties.
You'll see a nice surprise when you remove the cats and how soon the TQ comes on!

It's just too bad the turbo isn't closer to the Exhaust manifold to take advantage of the heat energy released from the engine. If the [single] turbo could be placed under the car, this kit would be even more superior.
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #10
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:cool pics: need videos
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:46 PM   #11
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Round 2 dyno session - 571 RWHP, 577 RWTQ, ~8psi

We are now using shorty headers and cat-delete pipes, and we've made some changes to the tune file.
And we're still keeping the tune a little conservative at this stage.

Here is the the new shortys, cat-deletes, and modified tune setup compared to the factory manifolds, cat pipes, and pre-loaded tune:



And for comparison, here is the new setup vs a stock LS3 Camaro on the same dyno:



Making progress! And much more to come!!
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:52 PM   #12
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What brand of shorty headers fit this kit? I would be very interested in the Turbo kit and shorties if they are smog legal for me in Cali.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:57 PM   #13
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What brand of shorty headers fit this kit? I would be very interested in the Turbo kit and shorties if they are smog legal for me in Cali.
JBA shorties and cat-delete pipes. And the JBA shorties should now be 50 state smog legal too (CARB EO# D-57-25)
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:00 PM   #14
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JBA shorties and cat-delete pipes. And the JBA shorties should now be 50 state smog legal too (CARB EO# D-57-25)
Right on!

Nice to know that the JBA's fit this Turbo kit. I was looking at this kit once I get my 416 done here in the next few months.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:38 PM   #15
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What kind of fuel upgrades do you have done? Only injectors?
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:46 PM   #16
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What kind of fuel upgrades do you have done? Only injectors?
This kit comes with 8 new injectors.

Pretty soon we will be maxing out the stock fuel pump with the extra upgrades we're doing; so that's next on the list too.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:53 PM   #17
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I'm getting ready to install this same kit an was wondering what my factory pump would handle with FAST 65lb/hr injectors. What was the duty cycle of the injectors at 8psi?
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:01 PM   #18
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This kit comes with 8 new injectors.

Pretty soon we will be maxing out the stock fuel pump with the extra upgrades we're doing; so that's next on the list too.
Sean, I was comparing both IPS TT and Turbonetics Single Turbo. Both @ 8PSI and stock engine. In fact the IPS kit is using stock manifold. But you can see after 3500 RPM the IPS keeps moving up more rapidly than Turbonetics. Can you comment why? Thanks!

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Old 02-22-2012, 07:12 PM   #19
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Sean, I was comparing both IPS TT and Turbonetics Single Turbo. Both @ 8PSI and stock engine. In fact the IPS kit is using stock manifold. But you can see after 3500 RPM the IPS keeps moving up more rapidly than Turbonetics. Can you comment why? Thanks!
My first guess would be the way the two kits are built and how well they flow. I'm still up in the air on the shorty headers vs stock manifolds. I saw some interesting info on the dynos today; so I may switch back to the stock manifolds.

Was that IPS graph on 93 octane? I'd like to check out some more info on that one if you have a link. The Turbonetics kit should have a few more horsepower in it, closer to 600 rear wheel horsepower (at least), because of the conservative tune we're still running - But, I don't know if I agree with that IPS dyno showing 660 to the wheels on the stock fuel system. Maybe with smaller injectors? And, 750HP at the flywheel on a stock LS3 bottom end Not my cup of tea!

Keep in mind we're doing our setup in stages - so who knows what the final numbers will be!
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:22 PM   #20
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JBA shorties and cat-delete pipes. And the JBA shorties should now be 50 state smog legal too (CARB EO# D-57-25)
Do you have to modify anything to install the headers? Have any video clips of the car? Would love to hear a turbo Camaro with headers.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:25 PM   #21
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My first guess would be the way the two kits are built and how well they flow. I'm still up in the air on the shorty headers vs stock manifolds. I saw some interesting info on the dynos today; so I may switch back to the stock manifolds.

Was that IPS graph on 93 octane? I'd like to check out some more info on that one if you have a link. The Turbonetics kit should have a few more horsepower in it, closer to 600 rear wheel horsepower (at least), because of the conservative tune we're still running - But, I don't know if I agree with that IPS dyno showing 660 to the wheels on the stock fuel system. Maybe with smaller injectors? And, 750HP at the flywheel on a stock LS3 bottom end Not my cup of tea!

Keep in mind we're doing our setup in stages - so who knows what the final numbers will be!
I understand Sean. What caught my curiosity, was that, both cars were getting 8psi air pressure waiting at TB to get in, regardless of how that pressure was made. And that's why I posed the question.

I had actually seen several built from IPS on this forum and they all seem very high power. Here is the link:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91275

Here is the link
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:50 PM   #22
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I have to say that the work you guys have done and the pics to go with it is really impressive.
Could you tell me what would be a typical final cost if you could,(installation included) for the turbo compared to the magnacharger supercharger and the advantages one over the other?
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:25 PM   #23
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I understand Sean. What caught my curiosity, was that, both cars were getting 8psi air pressure waiting at TB to get in, regardless of how that pressure was made. And that's why I posed the question.
Their kit mentions larger injectors and a boost-a-pump, so that takes care of the fuel issue - I'm not sure where we would be at if we weren't getting close to running out of fuel pump, but we will know soon!

In general, a twin turbo, bottom-mount kit, should have less hot-side pipe volume, which may make a difference in power, but then again A) this is a 50 state legal kit (), and B) I'm not a big fan of remote-mount oil pumps for the turbos, because to me, at the end of the day, it's just more to worry about and something that could go wrong and destroy two turbos. Although.. I'm not here to compare kits
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Do you have to modify anything to install the headers? Have any video clips of the car? Would love to hear a turbo Camaro with headers.
Nope, they went right in. We wrapped some heat tape around the last plug wire though. We did try a set of BBK shorties, and they didn't fit (on the driver side, didn't check passenger side).

I'll get a few video clips of the turbo kit tomorrow, with the dyno runs we filmed, and post that up soon.
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I'm not here to compare kits
Thanks Sean. I wasn't leading you on for comparisons, just wanted to hear your comments. I really like the way you guys do the work/installation and that's all this post was all about.

Looking forward to more findings from you.
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