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Old 04-24-2012, 04:04 AM   #51
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Thanks Sean. That really helps me out because I need a retune, but want over the 600rwhp mark and doesn't look like I can get it since that would be near maxing out my injectors. :(

Now I know I have to get new injectors. Damn, just another item I need to buy. Lol

so if you have already ZL1 fuel pump do you need biger injectors or 60lb inje with the kit will be good for 600wrhp
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:03 AM   #52
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Hey Chris, thanks for chiming in. My numbers were based on a flow chart someone posted on the CTS-V and ZL1 fuel pumps. So what would you say are the max safe Horsepower numbers using just the new ZL1 fuel pump by itself, without a BAP?

Not sure honestly. Both camaro5's we just finished up have the same ZL1 Pump and 80lb. Injectors and the one was 51% IDC and the other 53%IDC.
However we are upgrading to a 76mm triple BB on one of them so we will see what the IDC#'s go up to after that. I am positive the 80lb injectors are helping over the 60lb's though.

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Old 04-24-2012, 10:08 AM   #53
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so if you have already ZL1 fuel pump do you need biger injectors or 60lb inje with the kit will be good for 600wrhp
I doubt the 60lb/hr injectors will suffice regardless of which aftermarket fuel pump you have. I think the injectors are going to be the limiting factor to go above the 600rwhp mark. I have ADM twin pumps, and the 60lb/hr injectors should be the only limiting factor for me, especially since Sean said the injectors were at 90% DC at around the 570rwhp mark. I made a mistake and didn't upgrade the darn injectors to something larger right when I installed the kit. I should have known I wanted to get more power out of it. The Turbonetics kit is great and has plentyyy of room to grow, but new larger capacity injectors are needed.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:46 PM   #54
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I doubt the 60lb/hr injectors will suffice regardless of which aftermarket fuel pump you have. I think the injectors are going to be the limiting factor to go above the 600rwhp mark. I have ADM twin pumps, and the 60lb/hr injectors should be the only limiting factor for me, especially since Sean said the injectors were at 90% DC at around the 570rwhp mark. I made a mistake and didn't upgrade the darn injectors to something larger right when I installed the kit. I should have known I wanted to get more power out of it. The Turbonetics kit is great and has plentyyy of room to grow, but new larger capacity injectors are needed.
Wait, your running 600 whp with the 60 lb injectors? I heard that this is no good, what is your idc? With more research I have to agree with ted, he wants me to get some id-850s before he tunes my car. All I am looking for is 575-600 whp. Take a look at my thread, it seems like a lot of the same questions are coming up on here. That's why I started a pole.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217697
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:56 PM   #55
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Wait, your running 600 whp with the 60 lb injectors? I heard that this is no good, what is your idc? With more research I have to agree with ted, he wants me to get some id-850s before he tunes my car. All I am looking for is 575-600 whp. Take a look at my thread, it seems like a lot of the same questions are coming up on here. That's why I started a pole.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217697
No, my tune is way scaled down because of that reason. The 60lb/hr injectors would basically be maxed out at 600rwhp. I want to purchase new injectors before I start bumping up the boost and power to 600-650rwhp. I'm also saving for ID850's . Ted explained the same thing to me thankfully.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:43 PM   #56
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We were at a local car show this weekend talking with some ZL1 owners, as well as other supercharged SS owners, which reminded me that I forgot to mention...

650+ Horsepower, 30 MPG @ 65 MPH in 6th gear on the freeway ride home...

+1 for Turbos!!

I don't even want to mention the MPG numbers I heard from the supercharged guys!
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:02 PM   #57
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nice. what was the boost again? i was looking at this kit if i kept my 10 camaro ss. Im leaning towards the new zl1. Id love to have a turbo car though. or camaro i mean.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:48 PM   #58
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cam update

Quick update - Today we are installing a Comp Cams turbo-spec camshaft, with reverse-split-duration lobes.



Check back soon for updates on how the car runs with this cam profile
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:40 PM   #59
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:35 AM   #60
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Any update on this?
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:57 PM   #61
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Any update on this?
Here are the latest updates:



Red: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - stock cam - 9 psi - 555 rwhp
Blue: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - COMP cam - 9 psi - 625 rwhp

We picked up 100 Horsepower at 6,300 rpms with the new Camshaft and Valve Springs, compared to the stock cam and valvetrain. We also raised the rev limiter / redline a little bit as you can see in the graph. Both pulls on 93 Octane pump gas.

It's not the "biggest" cam in the world, but it seems to work pretty well on this setup. This cam didn't really pick up a lot of low end power or change the spool time, but the car definitely pulls a lot harder past 6,000 rpms.

Next on the list is the Water/Meth injection kit, then we may try and customize the turbo kit a little, and reduce the hot side piping to see if we can get it to spool even faster on the street.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:28 PM   #62
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Here are the latest updates:



Red: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - stock cam - 9 psi - 555 rwhp
Blue: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - COMP cam - 9 psi - 625 rwhp

We picked up 100 Horsepower at 6,300 rpms with the new Camshaft and Valve Springs, compared to the stock cam and valvetrain. We also raised the rev limiter / redline a little bit as you can see in the graph. Both pulls on 93 Octane pump gas.

It's not the "biggest" cam in the world, but it seems to work pretty well on this setup. This cam didn't really pick up a lot of low end power or change the spool time, but the car definitely pulls a lot harder past 6,000 rpms.

Next on the list is the Water/Meth injection kit, then we may try and customize the turbo kit a little, and reduce the hot side piping to see if we can get it to spool even faster on the street.
Looking good, any video clips with the new cam?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:24 PM   #63
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Here are the latest updates:



Red: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - stock cam - 9 psi - 555 rwhp
Blue: Phastek X5 Camaro w/ Turbonetics Turbo Kit - COMP cam - 9 psi - 625 rwhp

We picked up 100 Horsepower at 6,300 rpms with the new Camshaft and Valve Springs, compared to the stock cam and valvetrain. We also raised the rev limiter / redline a little bit as you can see in the graph. Both pulls on 93 Octane pump gas.

It's not the "biggest" cam in the world, but it seems to work pretty well on this setup. This cam didn't really pick up a lot of low end power or change the spool time, but the car definitely pulls a lot harder past 6,000 rpms.

Next on the list is the Water/Meth injection kit, then we may try and customize the turbo kit a little, and reduce the hot side piping to see if we can get it to spool even faster on the street.
You plan on adding boost along with the meth? I have heard a couple times that 10psi is the max for the undersized 68mm turbine wheel are you going to prove us wrong? I hope so.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:44 PM   #64
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:17 AM   #65
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JBA shorties and cat-delete pipes. And the JBA shorties should now be 50 state smog legal too (CARB EO# D-57-25)

I.like this set up cause I live in California will it be legal on a 2013 Camaro SS? How much for all ?
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:18 AM   #66
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I need that video!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:53 PM   #67
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I need that video!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:56 PM   #68
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+1!
i need to order my cam and I want to hear it idle, perhaps buy the cam specs off him so I can get a cam but he keeps ignoring my PM's??? Doesn't sound like him.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:14 PM   #69
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Sorry for the delay!!

Here is the idle video

(Stock exhaust manifolds, cat-delete pipes, Magnaflow mufflers)

Cold start clip, choppy idle starts at about the 0:30 mark



Comp Cam part number #54-481-11 - reverse-split duration camshaft for remote-mount turbo cars, its an off-the-shelf cam:

"LSR™ Turbo, 285LTB HR14
High RPM Street/Strip Application"

Cam specs from Comp's website

Lobe Separation: 115°
RPM Range: 2700-7200
Duration @ .050: Intake 235, exhaust 231
Valve lift: Intake 621, exhaust 617
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:37 PM   #70
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You plan on adding boost along with the meth? I have heard a couple times that 10psi is the max for the undersized 68mm turbine wheel are you going to prove us wrong? I hope so.
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I.like this set up cause I live in California will it be legal on a 2013 Camaro SS? How much for all ?
We switched back to the stock exhaust manifolds, and used JBA cat-delete pipes. You could use their shorty headers and be legal in California, but you would need to have the stock cats on the car.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:27 PM   #71
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We switched back to the stock exhaust manifolds, and used JBA cat-delete pipes. You could use their shorty headers and be legal in California, but you would need to have the stock cats on the car.
Thank you, that thing sounds great!!!
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with most cams you need new valve springs, i assume this would also be the case here. what else would you need to do to make sure its durable? is it a single bolt?
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with most cams you need new valve springs, i assume this would also be the case here. what else would you need to do to make sure its durable? is it a single bolt?
Yes, you will definitely need new valve springs with a camshaft upgrade.

Cam, springs, and install kit (3 bolt cam sprocket + chain damper)
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Would 3 inch pipe after the turbo hurt you any?

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Old 01-18-2013, 12:00 PM   #75
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Would 3 inch pipe after the turbo hurt you any?
It would definitely help. We will be taking the resonators and mufflers off soon, and going with straight pipes to see how it sounds. Right now it has way too much 'rasp' around 2k rpms when cruising around town.
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