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Old 08-20-2013, 07:47 PM   #151
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hey folks . question. just got home from dealer. test drove a 1LT coupe, 2014 and new 2013 2LT vert. i drove, gf shotgun and salesman sat in back. i noticed more road noise on the vert on hi way, than coupe. it this expected? is it the top? or fact the back area behind rear seat is open to trunk? both cars drove the same. leather in vert, all black. the top went down and up easily. was funn with top down. blind spots not real bad, especially side windows , but back seat more cramped, as narrower. i have a 9 yr old son who would sit there. the vert is a year old per buiild but 58 miles on it. thanks!!
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:05 AM   #152
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A low 3. Too many problems. Love the car itself, I'm sorry I bought a convertible.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:56 AM   #153
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hey folks . question. just got home from dealer. test drove a 1LT coupe, 2014 and new 2013 2LT vert. i drove, gf shotgun and salesman sat in back. i noticed more road noise on the vert on hi way, than coupe. it this expected? is it the top? or fact the back area behind rear seat is open to trunk? both cars drove the same. leather in vert, all black. the top went down and up easily. was funn with top down. blind spots not real bad, especially side windows , but back seat more cramped, as narrower. i have a 9 yr old son who would sit there. the vert is a year old per buiild but 58 miles on it. thanks!!
As was said in the other threads any convertible will be noisier than the coupe version. Cloth tops are not good noise insulators. But who cares, drop the top and enjoy!
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:51 PM   #154
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10. I've had no problems at all and it is now the fastest car I've ever owned.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:11 PM   #155
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I would say 8 due to issues with the top and the trunk lid wire bundle sawing through the trunk seal etc. But like any first year production car there are always bugs to work out.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:43 PM   #156
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:15 PM   #157
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9. I love my car. I have put 24,000 miles on it and I can't get enough of it. I even haul my granddaughter in a car seat and she loves it too! Long drives (from KY to FL) or short drives are a dream. If she wasn't so heavy I would give her a 10. But that 6.2 moves her very well. I just ordered some LTs so hopefully that helps her reach a 10.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:20 AM   #158
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:49 PM   #159
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #160
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9. Though my next one will be a hardroof .Convertible was for the wife. I've never owned a ragtop before & I had some reservations. I'm happy with all aspects.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:16 AM   #161
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:07 PM   #162
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9.9! Wish it had a better vert top boot cover but other than that it rocks!
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:06 PM   #163
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The trunk freaking sucks,the safety crap for the top sucks,and i couldnt test drive it as it had no hand controls,also i am so worried about the smallest amount of damage from my wheelchair,that i dont even try to put it in myself.
I have no place to put my wheelchair when i drive it so i either go without a chair and never get out or i have to have someone put it in the back seat ,which means i can only take one person with me,lol
so the ZL1 its self my be a great car but from the stand point of being able to just get up and go whenever i want,it sucks lol
3 out of the now 4 times i have driven it i had to have someone follow me with my wheelchair. I keep on putting more money in it and buying all those cool things for it,then end the end of the day ask myself why,the onl thing i can honestly come up with is that its sort of like a project to help keep me from getting bored while i watch the world go by,lol sometimes i just have to laugh at myself as i turn the corner and the passenger has to hold me up so i dont fall over into his seat ...well if i have to give it a number it just depends on the day of the week..6-10 the best time i have is taking it to FASTLANE AND WATCHING IT BECOME A WHOLE DIFFERENT BEAST..since i have owned it more people have spend time driving it than i have..and if that brings joy to someones life then GM has done its job...
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:17 AM   #164
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9 and I'm sorry but I feel like this deserves an explanation. I have a 2013 Camaro 5 months old and about 5,000 miles. I have had not had any problems only joy. Nevertheless, I'm taking off a point due to the new stress I have acquired from reading these forums. I'm scared to even look at my car. If anyone has an older 2013 camaro can you please let me know how the new top and frame is working?
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:05 PM   #165
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9 and I'm sorry but I feel like this deserves an explanation. I have a 2013 Camaro 5 months old and about 5,000 miles. I have had not had any problems only joy. Nevertheless, I'm taking off a point due to the new stress I have acquired from reading these forums. I'm scared to even look at my car. If anyone has an older 2013 camaro can you please let me know how the new top and frame is working?
Hey, you ain't the only one. I am just glad I went and bought one before I found C5 forum and these convertible threads, ha.

The thing is, a satisfied customer will tell a few people, mostly his friends. An unsatisfied customer will tell the world!

There is no doubt the original tops were not pristine, but most of those are still working okay. And they have just gotten better.

Having stated that, I watch my top for anything and everything. When I put the top down, make sure it isn't rubbing at the back (it doesn't) and it never has leaked anywhere and to me is as quiet as a hardtop.

A few things I do, when possible : when I have had the top down, I try to put it back up where the sun is shining. As it is a black top, the sun can warm it up and expand it and take the creases out, which seems to work.

Also, I treated it with 303 water repellent which works great. To be fair if I have driven it six times in the rain, that would be a lot, but once was over 300 miles in the rain on a long trip.

Anyways, enjoy your car. You are under warranty and trust me, GM is well aware of the top and its "issues".

Good luck!
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #166
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Hey, you ain't the only one. I am just glad I went and bought one before I found C5 forum and these convertible threads, ha.

The thing is, a satisfied customer will tell a few people, mostly his friends. An unsatisfied customer will tell the world!

There is no doubt the original tops were not pristine, but most of those are still working okay. And they have just gotten better.

Having stated that, I watch my top for anything and everything. When I put the top down, make sure it isn't rubbing at the back (it doesn't) and it never has leaked anywhere and to me is as quiet as a hardtop.

A few things I do, when possible : when I have had the top down, I try to put it back up where the sun is shining. As it is a black top, the sun can warm it up and expand it and take the creases out, which seems to work.

Also, I treated it with 303 water repellent which works great. To be fair if I have driven it six times in the rain, that would be a lot, but once was over 300 miles in the rain on a long trip.

Anyways, enjoy your car. You are under warranty and trust me, GM is well aware of the top and its "issues".

Good luck!

Thank you! Yes, its just extremely discouraging. This is my dream car so I can't imagine living without it. I just bought the 303 products so i'm waiting for them to arrive. I live in Flroida so I'm a little worried since it rains half the year This is my second convertible, my first was vinyl, I never had a problem with the rain and I had the car for about 7 years. I find it so barbaric how people are trying to dodge the rain, this is 40k car, there shouldnt be any major problems
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:35 PM   #167
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In its class i'll give it a solid 9. I'm sure once these twin turbo's are installed then it might jump to a 10. I wish the car came with the capability to drop the top via key-fob. Trunk space is terrible as well but overall, excellent car for its class and still continues to get looks.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:30 PM   #168
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9 and I'm sorry but I feel like this deserves an explanation. I have a 2013 Camaro 5 months old and about 5,000 miles. I have had not had any problems only joy. Nevertheless, I'm taking off a point due to the new stress I have acquired from reading these forums. I'm scared to even look at my car. If anyone has an older 2013 camaro can you please let me know how the new top and frame is working?
I have a 2013 ZL1 Vert that was delivered 8-27-12 and now has 13,000 miles on it and the top is STILL perfect.

Before this, I had a 2011 2SS/RS Vert that the top was replaced early on when the orignal rubbing marks were talked about. After the top was replaced by my dealer who went out of thier way to bring in one of the GM top designers to help them, (so I know all about the original top issues), I put another 20,000 miles on the 2011 with no more top issues.

The only reason I got rid of the 2011, was to upgrade to the new ZL1 vert.
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Old 11-15-2013, 02:43 PM   #169
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I am pretty confident in saying if you have a late 12 build or later year Convertible you have nothing to stress over. I tried to not let others problems stress me put over mine but just learn how to deal with my own issues based on what others have gone through. So far it is working. Two weeks ago I had my top and frame replaced. As soon as they get it properly adjusted to go low enough in the well I will be happy. It fits much better than the old top. Not that I was experiencing rub marks or wear with the other top. My problem seemed to be less serious, but they wanted to replace everything now to avoid issues later.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:57 PM   #170
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I have a 2013 ZL1 Vert that was delivered 8-27-12 and now has 13,000 miles on it and the top is STILL perfect.

Before this, I had a 2011 2SS/RS Vert that the top was replaced early on when the orignal rubbing marks were talked about. After the top was replaced by my dealer who went out of thier way to bring in one of the GM top designers to help them, (so I know all about the original top issues), I put another 20,000 miles on the 2011 with no more top issues.

The only reason I got rid of the 2011, was to upgrade to the new ZL1 vert.
Okay thank you! Puts my mind at ease
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:10 PM   #171
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9 and I'm sorry but I feel like this deserves an explanation. I have a 2013 Camaro 5 months old and about 5,000 miles. I have had not had any problems only joy. Nevertheless, I'm taking off a point due to the new stress I have acquired from reading these forums. I'm scared to even look at my car. If anyone has an older 2013 camaro can you please let me know how the new top and frame is working?
I have a very early build 2011 mine was in the first 2 weeks of production. I had some early rub and wear marks that the GM TSB resolved. Then I had a fifth bow break around 20,000 miles. That was replaced and broke again within a month of normal use. They replaced it again and some bracket that was not done on the first one and its been fine for 7 months now. I still have my original frame and canvas and I have never had a leak or excessive wind noise. I do treat the top with 303 and mine is stored winters and garage kept when not being driven. It is a DD in the summer rain or shine. I have 31,000 miles now and I am not worried about the top. I would just keep up your cleaning and normal maintenance and drive and enjoy the car.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:26 AM   #172
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KEVINW, I have 13 2LT RS conv, second one had an 11 prior. As most, I had some problems with the 11 but was corrected then I got the 13. Conv are not near as quiet as coupes but we know that when buying one. My grandson rides in it all the time in the back and on ocassions I'll have two in the back when cruising the beaches. Not alot of room for two people on any rides of distance. Main thing is to enjoy. I like it so I'll give it a 10.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:30 AM   #173
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10. No doubt. Even with installing/removing the stupid tonneau cover the way it is designed. When driving it, it feels nimbler than its actual girth.

Power, looks, not one issue so far. Bought it, hopped in it, drove it home 950 flawless miles, nothing but stares and people gawking and taking pics of it. I recently got it broken in and hopped on the throttle. Car had the nannies on and it STILL fish tailed a little. The car has earned it's unofficial "beast" title.

I wanted a ZL1 convertible, and now I have one. My car-life is now complete.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:51 PM   #174
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On a scale of 1-10 I'd give mine an 11.
I like everything about my car. The way it rides,handles and sounds not to mention the way it looks. Of course it's not stock, that's why I like it so much.
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is 0 the lowest i can go or are negative numbers allowed??
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