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Weird Ticking for about 5 seconds after startup.....
Not sure what this ticking noise is but happens surely in the morning as soon as i start the car... it also seems to happen after the car has sat for a few hours..... Thought id check here first before bringing it to the dealership here.....
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![]() Drives: 2010 CAMARO 2SS/RS IBM L99 Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Quebec, Canada
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L99 or LS3 ?
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Mexican SS
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L99
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![]() Drives: 2010 CAMARO 2SS/RS IBM L99 Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Quebec, Canada
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Check if it come from your lifter. It already happen to my car. I have 16 new lifters now.Ī found this bulletin before i went to my dealer " Default #10-06-01-007B: Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start
#10-06-01-007B: Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine Has Been Off for 2 Hours or More (Evaluate Noise and/or Replace Valve Lifters) - (Nov 17, 2010) Subject: Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine Has Been Off for 2 Hours or More (Evaluate Noise and/or Replace Valve Lifters) Models: 2007 Buick Rainier 2009 Buick LaCrosse Super, Allure Super (Canada Only) 2007 Cadillac Escalade Built Prior to April 1, 2006 with 6.2L Engine RPO L92 (These engines were built with AFM Hardware but the AFM system was disabled) 2010-2011 Cadillac Escalade 2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 2007-2009 Chevrolet Impala 2007-2011 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer 2010-2011 Chevrolet Camaro SS 2007-2011 GMC Envoy, Sierra, Yukon 2007-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix 2008-2009 Pontiac G8 2007-2009 Saab 9-7X Equipped with AFM (Active Fuel Management) and V8 Engine RPO L76, L94, L99, LC9, LFA, LH6, LMG, LS4, LY5 or LZ1 Attention: This bulletin only applies to the AFM V8 engines listed above. It DOES NOT apply to Non-AFM Engines. If you are dealing with a Non-AFM engine that is experiencing a similar noise, please refer to Engine Mechanical > Diagnostic Information and Procedures > Symptoms in SI. This bulletin is being revised to add the 2011 model year. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 10-06-01-007A (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System). Condition Some customers may comment on an engine valve lifter tick noise that occurs after the engine has been shut off for at least two hours. The tick noise may last from two seconds to ten minutes. Cause This condition may be caused by any of the following: Aerated oil in the valve lifter body, resulting in the valve lifter being unable to purge the air quickly. A low engine oil level or incorrect oil viscosity. Dirty or contaminated oil. A low internal valve lifter oil reservoir level. Debris in the valve lifter. A high valve lifter leak down rate. Correction If the SI diagnostics do not isolate the cause of this valve lifter tick noise and normal oil pressure is noted during the concern, perform the following steps: Inspect the engine oil condition and level. Refer to Owner Manual > Service and Appearance Care > Checking Things Under the Hood > Description and Operation > Engine Oil in SI. ?If the engine oil is more than one quart low, an incorrect oil viscosity is being used or if poor quality/contamination is observed, change the oil and filter. Note: Allow at least a two hour soak time between engine OFF and start up when evaluating the tick noise. Start the engine and evaluate the valve lifter tick noise. ?If the valve lifter tick noise is still present, replace all 16 valve lifters. Refer to Valve Lifter Replacement in SI. Parts Information Note: A V8 AFM engine requires 8 AFM lifters and 8 non-AFM lifters for a total of 16 lifters. Part Number Description Qty 12576400 Non AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter 8 12632143 AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter 8 GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information. WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION Š 2010 General Motors. All rights reserved."
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Mexican SS
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Hey bout how long does this process take ? Man the dealership here is so slow but i guess if i gotta go then i gotta go.....
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![]() Drives: 2010 CAMARO 2SS/RS IBM L99 Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Quebec, Canada
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It take : 1 day for all test, it take 2 weeks to receive the lifters, 2 to 3 days to replace the lifters. ( 2 days if your dealership don't forget to order the gaskets !!). I lost my car during 4 days total with the test included. I don't know if it's an illusion but my car run better.
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great info thanks buddy..... im calling first thing monday morning.....
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![]() Drives: 2010 CAMARO 2SS/RS IBM L99 Join Date: Jan 2011
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Mexican SS
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before i do this...... there is nothing i can try before i go there..... maybe a small chance , anything.... fingers crossed...
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I used to be Stieger....
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If it's the lifters, then only way to fix it is to replace them.
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Mexican SS
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Cool kinda figured that i was just hoping and praying for another fix... u know how that is....
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An exhaust leak can sound like this as well. Check around your exhaust gaskets for any indication.
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Mexican SS
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Imma have to take a look at that also..... i really gotta get this shit fixed........Thanks fellas
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: 2012 Camaro 1ss LS3 (THE KRAKEN) Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Masachusetts
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My L99 sounded like it had this issue and since I started using Amsoil Extended Life the startup tick went away up till now and that was for the last 29000 miles. But I think the lifters still may need replacing. The only real fix is to have them replaced.
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Mexican SS
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What exactly is Amisol Extended Life?
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Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Digging for OIL
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Quote:
We also recommend zrod 10w30, designed specially for big engines |
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Mexican SS
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Oh ok I gotcha.....thanks
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![]() Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS, Black Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento
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I think there is some level of valve tick that is acceptable after a cold startup and can be considered "normal". Mine will do this intermittently but it lasts for only 2-3 seconds.
I think some others have had the tick continue for minutes or even longer. Personally, I don't trust my dealership to crack open the engine and do this repair properly until something really breaks. I've read that some people still have a few second ticking noise AFTER the valve replacement. So, I'd rather live with it and do nothing for now. I might try Amsoil for my next oil change just to see if it makes a difference. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Texas
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and what would happen if it didn't get fixed? my 2004 GMC Sierra with the 5.3l just started making what I believe to be the ticking lifter noise.
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Yeah, I'll get around to it...
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![]() Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Louisiana
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My l99 did the same thing. Bring it to the dealer, this is not uncommon so the dealer should be fairly quick. I am a GM tech and my dealership stocked all the parts, I did my total job in a day. Its not a huge job and it fixed mine and the other dozens we do too. Warranty pays for it so no reason not to get it done. good luck
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my engine has been fine for 17K miles. then, about two days ago, I heard a ticking noise as soon as I started the engine. it scared the crap out of me so I shut it off, restarted it and it was fine.
it hasn't happened again and I'm hoping it was a fluke. (wishful thinking I'm sure). I'd like to think GM would replace the lifters in my L99 car. but I'm thinking they won't due to the S/Cer on my engine. what do you guys think?
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![]() Drives: SIM 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Angelo Texas
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I have a 2011 L99 SS that has made a ticking noise since day one and it does not stop after you start it, it does it as long as it is runing. It is very noticeable so i took it back to the dealer about 2 days after I bought it and they said it was the high pressure fuel injectors. I waited another 3 months or so and took it to another dealership for a second opinion same result, they said it was the high pressure fuel injectors. My car has 1786 miles on it and it's not my daily driver, I have had it since Oct of 2011. This thread kind of has me worried that it's not the injectors. Any advice?
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Location: Cleveland, OH
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So just wondering...is this lifter issue due to AFM? Is it better if the lifters are working all the time, like with AFM turned off, or would that make matters worse? How many of you who've had AFM tuned out have had this lifter problem?
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![]() Drives: 2010 1SS Silver Ice Metallic Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Corona, CA
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Mine only does the ticking a couple seconds after cold start up. Never thought anything of it.
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![]() Drives: SGM, 2011 2SS/RS, L99 Join Date: Oct 2011
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Mine does the same thing. I heard of a few reasons why it could do this, most recently I heard it was the fuel pump. Not sure but like most have stated its just a few seconds on certain mornings.
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