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Old 04-25-2009, 10:38 PM   #1
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Mis-matched paint?

I saw this camera-phone pic posted on another forum and thought I would share here. If this is a respost, I apologize.

This pic was taken by an employee at a Chevy dealer. He apologized for the crappy picture, but said that what you see is NOT an illusion. The front bumper cover does not match the rest of the car.



I've seen this same issue on several cars, and I had the same issue with my 2006 GTO. The most recent example before this one was a ZR1 Corvette in blue where the hood and fenders did not match. Is this anything to be concerned about or is it the norm?
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:40 PM   #2
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Supplier end of the deal. We don't paint the bumpers
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:43 PM   #3
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Maybe I'm just picky, but I don't really care where in the process the issue occurs, it's inexcusable that someone would expect you to pay $35K for a car that is screwed up right from the get-go.
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:47 PM   #4
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Maybe I'm just picky, but I don't really care where in the process the issue occurs, it's inexcusable that someone wuld expect you to pay $35K for a car that is screwed up right from the get-go.
Ummm, I agree 100%. Gm is selling the car, so GM is ultimately responsible. If ours looks like that when we go to pick it up, they will repaint that or we won't take it.
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
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That mismatch looks rather pronounced. I have noticed it on other cars too. I really don't know what to say, except I believe it's a result of the base color of the bumper cover. It wouldn't be acceptible to me, and I would think not to GM either.
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:55 PM   #6
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thats where the car goes from a steel hood to a plastic bumper. most likely the difference you see in color has to do the different material the paint is applied to. at least thats the only thing i can think of. my guess is in person you will never be able to tell a difference but the camera automatically tries to make a difference between colors and so you end up with the above picture.
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:57 PM   #7
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Wow the bumper is a lighter orange right?
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:07 PM   #8
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LOS yes, in this picture that is what you see.

Does anyone know if the car has the 3M coating? that could cause the color change...

But also maybe the particular bumber was sun bleached.

This is not a system wide issue.

There were 30 IOM cars in TX and none look like this.
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That is unacceptable.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:13 PM   #10
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I would like to see the same view with different lighting...

we already know that this color is very different in different lighting.

try and snap one at the same angle without the flash.


... its odd that this pic comes from someone who makes fun of the camaro in his avatar and drives a mustang.
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They haven't gotten it right in ten + years why start now. Its actually better now if you can believe that.
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I think this is common on GM cars. My Firebird had the same issue, and I've seen it on some older camaro's. Seems to get more pronounced as the car gets older, depending on the color. That said, it would not stop me from buying a new camaro
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:46 PM   #13
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Supplier end of the deal. We don't paint the bumpers
and you guys don't inspect the bumpers before installing?
Lame answer dude...
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Its probably the different materials metals, plastics, um the other material that i forgot.
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It's from the different paint dyes and different drying temperatures since they are painted at different facilities.

It's pretty common, mostly noticeable on the reds and oranges. Hopefully, for your guys sake, they don't all come out as bad as the pic.
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Just part of the problem with GM. Somebody posted that the Corvette ZR-1 has the same problem? That car costs over 100K! That is ridiculous!
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Old 04-26-2009, 12:17 AM   #17
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Might be a QC issue but I didn't see it on CFPC_2010's Wife's car. Even the engine cover looked to match perfectly.



Keep in mind that IOM is a very dynamic color so that may have had something to do with it in this picture (although it does look pronounced to me as well in this case). A cloud covered up the sun briefly and you could easily notice a color change.
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Back in the 80's you'd see a difference where the plastic meets the metal, but i havn't seen that in a long time.
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hopefully the fbodfather shows up in this thread and clears stuff



you guys are saying this is unacceptable but You guys have not noticed until someone pointed it out

Really its not that noticeable unless you look for it

Have this thread not been posted, you guys would not be going crazy. You all would not even notice

just gagreolic just happened to spot it out


^to the poster above me. I do not see any difference to

maybe the light was shining on the front bumper in the first pic


idk im not a expert
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hopefully the fbodfather shows up in this thread and clears stuff



you guys are saying this is unacceptable but You guys have not noticed until someone pointed it out

Really its not that noticeable unless you look for it

Have this thread not been posted, you guys would not be going crazy. You all would not even notice

just gagreolic just happened to spot it out


^to the poster above me. I do not see any difference to maybe the light was shining on the front bumper in the first pic


idk im not a expert
Yeah, and he is going to say the same thing that he always says...calm down!
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Old 04-26-2009, 12:25 AM   #21
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No need for fbodfather. There really isn't an issue. Maybe one car got out mismatched in which case the dealer should get it taken care of. I've seen no evidence of a widespread problem.
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Yeah, and he is going to say the same thing that he always says...calm down!

yea lol


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No need for fbodfather. There really isn't an issue. Maybe one car got out mismatched in which case the dealer should get it taken care of. I've seen no evidence of a widespread problem.
people seem to listen to fbodfather more than any of us
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Honestly, it doesn't matter if we noticed it before or not. The fact that it was allowed to happen for any reason is no excuse for any car.
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Are we really going to freak out over ONE picture from a cell phone camera in an oddly lit room posted by someone that drives a GT500?!?!?!?!?!?!?

For god sakes... even if this ONE CAR really is messed up, find me ONE other one that sports the same issue. Shit happens! You should never take delivery of a car with mismatching panels. Your dealer should either fix it or order a new vehicle if this happens to you.
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people seem to listen to fbodfather more than any of us
Yep, and this thread will go through five to ten pages of people bickering about this one problem then FBOD will respond with a calm down!, and then almost immediately the thread will die...
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