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Old 02-05-2012, 09:06 AM   #1
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Anyone have a barton industries shifter?

i am looking to get one this spring. They are cheaper than Hurst . Any thoughts?

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Old 02-05-2012, 09:15 AM   #2
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I've heard good things about them, but I've heard better about MGW. I personally haven't experienced either though
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:19 AM   #3
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http://www.apex-speed.com/hurst-bill...2-shifter.html

Hurst is cheaper.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:31 AM   #4
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I have heard a lot of negatives about the hurst though like rattling and all sorts of one off problems.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:34 AM   #5
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I've been going back and forth about the Barton and the MGW. MGW is more expensive but it replaces the entire assembly. It seems like if I'm going to be having to crawl under the car anyway to replace the shifter, might as well replace the whole thing with the MGW.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:06 AM   #6
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My Barton rattles like a sob. Thinking about going back to stock. A little rattle OK but when you have crank the radio to cover it sucks.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:12 PM   #7
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I love my Barton STS ... no rattle at all but I also packed everything really well with synthetic grease when installing.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:52 AM   #8
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My Barton rattles like a sob. Thinking about going back to stock. A little rattle OK but when you have crank the radio to cover it sucks.
You should not be getting a rattle. Some people may get a light buzz at high rpms, but it shouldn't be rattling all the time and If the noise is excessive then something is wrong. The biggest culprit is the dust boot on the bottom of the car, double check that. If the boot is not all the way on or is slightly twisted it can cause a lot of noise. Did you install the "D" to the drivers side? Also, make sure the rubber dust boot on the inside of the car is pulled up onto the round part of the upper stick.

A trick to cut down on some vibration is to put some teflon tape on the threads that the ball screws on to. This will help break up the metal to metal contact.
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United_727- If your close to Sylvan Beach and not in a hurry for the shifter, there is a group of us that meet up there on Thursday nights, of course we have to wait on the weather to break, but thats not to far away. I always have my cars up there so your more than welcome to try it out.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:18 AM   #9
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You should not be getting a rattle. Some people may get a light buzz at high rpms, but it shouldn't be rattling all the time and If the noise is excessive then something is wrong. The biggest culprit is the dust boot on the bottom of the car, double check that. If the boot is not all the way on or is slightly twisted it can cause a lot of noise. Did you install the "D" to the drivers side? Also, make sure the rubber dust boot on the inside of the car is pulled up onto the round part of the upper stick.

A trick to cut down on some vibration is to put some teflon tape on the threads that the ball screws on to. This will help break up the metal to metal contact.
Thanks,
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United_727- If your close to Sylvan Beach and not in a hurry for the shifter, there is a group of us that meet up there on Thursday nights, of course we have to wait on the weather to break, but thats not to far away. I always have my cars up there so your more than welcome to try it out.
Thanks Dave, I used teflon tape on the threads, the "D" is on the driver side and the boot is correct. I do get the light buzz while cruising on the freeway. The boot inside is correct as well. I don't know, I'll look at the boot on the bottom side again.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:11 AM   #10
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MGW ???? Barton ??? GM option a Hurst ?
I don't want any rattle.
And I do want to keep it dependable .
Out of the three one has to be better.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:58 AM   #11
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MGW ???? Barton ??? GM option a Hurst ?
I don't want any rattle.
And I do want to keep it dependable .
Out of the three one has to be better.
It would depend who you ask. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. There are guys that have switched from all the companies you mentioned and put our shifter in and liked it better. And there are guys that had our shifter in and ended up going with another companies shifter in the end. The vast majority of people will like whatever they end up using, but everyone has different tastes. Which is why we let you install it for 30 days and if you don't like it you can send it back for a full refund. We got our start on Camaro5 and making shifters because, like you, I wanted a shifter, so I bought one and put it in my car only to be out $350 for a shifter I didn't like. So long story short, I made my own and it has blown up into what it is now. That's why we offer the money back guarantee, we don't feel anybody should be out money if the don't like our products.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #12
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It would depend who you ask. Not everyone is going to like the same thing. There are guys that have switched from all the companies you mentioned and put our shifter in and liked it better. And there are guys that had our shifter in and ended up going with another companies shifter in the end. The vast majority of people will like whatever they end up using, but everyone has different tastes. Which is why we let you install it for 30 days and if you don't like it you can send it back for a full refund. We got our start on Camaro5 and making shifters because, like you, I wanted a shifter, so I bought one and put it in my car only to be out $350 for a shifter I didn't like. So long story short, I made my own and it has blown up into what it is now. That's why we offer the money back guarantee, we don't feel anybody should be out money if the don't like our products.
I've had experience putting in a few shifters myself...and in defense of the manufacturers, without getting into all the technical jargon, to get the short throw and performance type feel, the nature of the beast is that it may vibrate/rattle depending on a lot of factors. Long before the new camaros, all the shifters and their linkage set-ups were never all that quiet. And for the most part if they were installed incorrectly, they would not even shift or you would soon have some sort of breakage.


I know we all want our cars and installs to be perfect, and suppliers will do their best to make you happy...but I for one can live with the feel of a nice short throw shifter, and not get that upset over a slight noise in a muscle car!
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:44 AM   #13
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i am looking to get one this spring. They are cheaper than Hurst . Any thoughts?

http://www.bartonindustries.com/BUY-...ter---Acc.html
they are not cheaper than Hurst. the Hurst unit is $199 now at most places.get that one!
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:51 PM   #14
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I have an MGW and think it's the best. I have driven the hurst and barton. The MGW had the best overall feel and is quiet as the stocker.
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:47 AM   #15
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+1 for Barton. Dave's customer service is second to none. He even made me a brushed aluminum knob simply because I asked! Super cool guy, and great product. I've had mine for about 6000 miles now. Zero issues. I mean NONE, zilch, no problems whatsoever. No annoying vibration. Not a Barton fanboy here, just a happy customer.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:50 AM   #16
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I have the Barton. I do get a little noise/vibration mostly in 2nd gear, but its a great shifter and I'd buy it again. I have both the short polished shaft and the longer (Hurst style) flat shaft, plus 4-5 Barton and aftermarket knobs, and change them from time to time.






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Old 02-07-2012, 10:21 AM   #17
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I originally was going with Barton until I found out that they no longer offer the standard stick style and only offer the flat stick now. So I just bought a Hurst Plus shifter since it's cheaper and looks the same as the Barton. Only reason I considered Barton was because of that style specifically. But now they are all the same.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:36 AM   #18
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Before I bought my Barton I checked out the feel of both the Hurst and Barton back to back at a local show. It's nice to be able to compare mods so easily like that. I really liked how much crisper the shifts felt on the Barton compared to the Hurst and was surprised at the difference. I haven't tried the MGW, but have heard good things. I am really happy with my Barton though.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:50 AM   #19
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I agree with the feel of the Barton. I love it and Dave is a great guy, wish all companies had his customer service. Mine happens to rattle and is loud when on the gas hard So He is sending the stick attachment for the OEM knob to see if that helps.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:25 PM   #20
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I have the Barton with the pistol grip and like it. It was already installed in the car when I purchased. I have also used Mgw in my last Cobra and liked it to. I would say you can't go wrong with either one.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:30 AM   #22
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One more Barton fan, have had no issues, no rattles or noise of any kind. These are super people to deal with, customer service is 2nd to none.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:34 AM   #23
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I have had a Barton shifter for almost 2 years in mine. I love it, no rattles and smooth short shift!
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:26 PM   #24
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Will Barton ever have a sale. Car is in storage until spring so no hurry.
or group buy. I see Hurst lowered there price $199.99
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