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Old 02-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #43
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It's the first item listed under vehicle highlights.
That is describing the one that was there. They would make it multiple colors I am sure.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:30 AM   #44
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I think you mean if chevy should build the sema 1le, camaro is a model, not a manufacturer


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I voted no. I want to see a mash up of the Leno concept and the SSX with an LS7 and named a Z28. No borrowed ext. parts from the ZL1, it cheapens the look of the ZL1 IMO. Those parts should be exclusive to that car.
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That is describing the one that was there. They would make it multiple colors I am sure.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:02 AM   #47
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Nope ... To close of a configuration to the ZL1

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Old 02-10-2012, 11:09 AM   #48
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I voted no. I want to see a mash up of the Leno concept and the SSX with an LS7 and named a Z28. No borrowed ext. parts from the ZL1, it cheapens the look of the ZL1 IMO. Those parts should be exclusive to that car.


I agree I want an LS7 based Z28.

How does the 1LE cheapen the look of the ZL1, cause it looks like a Camaro? It has the SS front end and hood the most distinguishable parts of the car. That being said, the original ZL1 looked like a basic 6 cylinder Camaro.
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I agree I want an LS7 based Z28.

How does the 1LE cheapen the look of the ZL1, cause it looks like a Camaro? It has the SS front end and hood the most distinguishable parts of the car. That being said, the original ZL1 looked like a basic 6 cylinder Camaro.
I want to see original parts made for the car. Different bumper, hood, diffuser, and a low wing spoiler. I guess more racy looking like the Boss Mustang.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:12 PM   #50
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so this would be basically a Boss 302 competitor? If so, then heck yes!!! build it!!
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:25 PM   #51
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so this would be basically a Boss 302 competitor? If so, then heck yes!!! build it!!
Im not sure the 1LE in this configuration would be competitive with the Boss.

Just for reference the a 2011 Boss turned a 1:40.71 at Laguna Seca while a 2010 SS turned a 1:45.70. The 1LE will not have much more power than a SS so will the rest of the goodies close a 5 second gap? I don't think so. JMHO
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I want to see original parts made for the car. Different bumper, hood, diffuser, and a low wing spoiler. I guess more racy looking like the Boss Mustang.
I'm for that as well.

I vote for the look of the Hot Wheels car! I love that hood!!!
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Im not sure the 1LE in this configuration would be competitive with the Boss.

Just for reference the a 2011 Boss turned a 1:40.71 at Laguna Seca while a 2010 SS turned a 1:45.70. The 1LE will not have much more power than a SS so will the rest of the goodies close a 5 second gap? I don't think so. JMHO

Yes that's my concern as well. We don't need to blow the Boss away (the sum (stats) of its parts are incredible), but we must be competitive.
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Yes that's my concern as well. We don't need to blow the Boss away (the sum (stats) of its parts are incredible), but we must be competitive.
Especially if it's around the same price point.
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I want to see original parts made for the car. Different bumper, hood, diffuser, and a low wing spoiler. I guess more racy looking like the Boss Mustang.
The "problem" with the BOSS is there are TWO of them, essentially. What you're describing, for a Camaro would be a closer competitor in content and capabilities to the BOSS LS, priced @ $48,000...which is where a 1LE + LS7 might reside.

The 1LE, executed as described above, would be a more worthy direct competitor to the "Base" BOSS...priced @ low $40s...Ford's VOLUME BOSS.

Once there's a 1LE Package in place, earning its way in the world, it is a MUCH shorter step to create a Z/28-type version, placed between the 1LE and ZL1...just as the BOSS LS is between the BOSS and GT 500.

If there wasn't a BOSS (for volume) there would NOT be a BOSS LS...

If there isn't a 1LE, there may NOT be a Z/28, regardless. I can see the 1LE as a "stepping stone" for the volumes GM requires to potentially build from...

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Im not sure the 1LE in this configuration would be competitive with the Boss.

Just for reference the a 2011 Boss turned a 1:40.71 at Laguna Seca while a 2010 SS turned a 1:45.70. The 1LE will not have much more power than a SS so will the rest of the goodies close a 5 second gap? I don't think so. JMHO
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Yes that's my concern as well. We don't need to blow the Boss away (the sum (stats) of its parts are incredible), but we must be competitive.
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The "problem" with the BOSS is there are TWO of them, essentially. What you're describing, for a Camaro would be a closer competitor in content and capabilities to the BOSS LS, priced @ $48,000...which is where a 1LE + LS7 might reside.

The 1LE, executed as described above, would be a more worthy direct competitor to the "Base" BOSS...priced @ low $40s...Ford's VOLUME BOSS.

Once there's a 1LE Package in place, earning its way in the world, it is a MUCH shorter step to create a Z/28-type version, placed between the 1LE and ZL1...just as the BOSS LS is between the BOSS and GT 500.

If there wasn't a BOSS (for volume) there would NOT be a BOSS LS...

If there isn't a 1LE, there may NOT be a Z/28, regardless. I can see the 1LE as a "stepping stone" for the volumes GM requires to potentially build from...
#1 Lap comparisons are not what they seem to be. For a lap comparison to be accurate they must me run on the same day, by the same driver. Even that comparison is flawed if we ran one car mid morning at 65 degrees and the other at 4 in the afternoon at 80 degrees.

#2 There are two versions of the BOSS. The LS runs on R compound tires.

#3 There are three versions of Camaro suspension for this discussion. FE3, FE4 and FE5.

#4 There are two versions of brakes for this discussion 4 pot Brembos all round and 6 pot front 4 pot rear.

Unless the SS lap time was run with a FE5 suspension and 6 pot Brembos we are talking about very different Camaros. Hell an FE4 SS would be faster than a FE3 Camaro on track. I think the 1LE vs the BOSS is a driver's race. The Same is true for a 1LE vs the BOSS LS as long as we fit R compound tires to the 1LE.
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