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Old 04-27-2009, 11:25 PM   #29
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Supercharger (eaton,KB,Whipple type).. typically more reliable and you can't beat the low end grunt ..

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with the right sized turbo you can.
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Old 04-28-2009, 03:42 AM   #30
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As soon as GM or my warranty go belly up, the Twins are going on!

STS (Squires Turbo Systems) has already developed a twin turbo system for the LS3 that put down over 600wrhp on a C6.

The turbos are very easy to install, and are installed in the muffler location insted of under the hood so they stay much cooler. They also have the added benifit of huge airflow from under the car helping to keep them cool.

Twin turbos will eliminate most of the lag that turbos have been know for. Plus, they will give you a 5.4 pound to 1 H.P ratio.

And did I mention that the entire system, including the tune and installation is under $8000?

I've been hooked since I saw a 04 GTO A4 go over 140 in the 1/4.

Here is a link so you can see for your selves: http://www.ststurbo.com/c6_corvette_
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:38 AM   #31
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with the right sized turbo you can.
You can use small turbos that will run out of boost pretty quick but spool up pretty quick but it will not be 100% instant like the supercharger. Having owned both I like the efficiency of the turbo, but the TQ curve (and cost) of the supercharger ...

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Old 04-28-2009, 01:22 PM   #32
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STS (Squires Turbo Systems) has already developed a twin turbo system for the LS3 that put down over 600wrhp on a C6.
DO NOT GO WITH STS !
OR any other rear mount turbo......
Unless you are going to build a race car with a forged stroker with a high stalled auto.

Even if you want to build a race car, front mounts offer much better boost delivery and performance.
Rear mounts were designed for space issues. The Camaro/G8 have a TON of space.

Yes, I've driven multiple STS cars build by the best.
Their boost delivery is HORRIBLE and do not make full boost to the higher gears.
Remember, the Camaro weighs 700lbs more than a Vette and needs all the boost EARLY.
Stay Away.

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Old 04-28-2009, 01:31 PM   #33
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No doubt a TT camaro would be ridiculous. However, with most of the manufacturers going to smaller, turbo engines, that spooling sound that I love so much about my car will get old after every Joe-Blo installs an intake an BOV on their ecoboost and thinks they are in the F&F. I'll probably go the SC route just because I like the idea of instantaneous torque and I think it will compliment the big motor nicely. I will most likely wait to install one when the warranty goes out so I will reserve final judgment until the time comes
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:42 PM   #34
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Todays dual ball-bearing turbos spool up crazy fast! You ever ride a turbo Hayabusa with over 500rwhp? Ain't much lag there!!! I bet you'll have positive boost before 2000 rpm.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:56 PM   #35
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As soon as GM or my warranty go belly up, the Twins are going on!

STS (Squires Turbo Systems) has already developed a twin turbo system for the LS3 that put down over 600wrhp on a C6.

The turbos are very easy to install, and are installed in the muffler location insted of under the hood so they stay much cooler. They also have the added benifit of huge airflow from under the car helping to keep them cool.

Twin turbos will eliminate most of the lag that turbos have been know for. Plus, they will give you a 5.4 pound to 1 H.P ratio.

And did I mention that the entire system, including the tune and installation is under $8000?

I've been hooked since I saw a 04 GTO A4 go over 140 in the 1/4.

Here is a link so you can see for your selves: http://www.ststurbo.com/c6_corvette_
600whp is easy out of any turbo kit for an LSx. It doesn't take much boost to make massive power out of these motors regardless of what kit you run. I don't like running all the plumbing all the way to the rear of the car and then back forward. The rear mount turbo is an interesting idea, but it comes up short over a traditional turbo system in every way except for ease of install.

Personally I prefer to stay N/A. My car plans are usually full packages, not "let's throw as much power as we can at it and see if you can keep it straight." I'd rather have a car stay together for 5 consecutive 30 minutes sessions at 8-9/10ths and be able to drive home in stop and go traffic than have a car that has to sit and cool off for an hour between 9 second passes.
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Normally I like to clear up turbo myths...but I'm too tired of it lately.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:38 PM   #37
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Todays dual ball-bearing turbos spool up crazy fast! You ever ride a turbo Hayabusa with over 500rwhp? Ain't much lag there!!! I bet you'll have positive boost before 2000 rpm.
Im not saying that don't spool up fast .. the 135i I drive now, both turbos spool crazy fast ... but it still isn't like the 04 cobra I had in regards to low end
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uhhhhh, i dont know what to doooooo

im so torn, cam,exhaust,intake?

kooks headers with the magnacharger kit?

wait a year for the kb kit...
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Im not saying that don't spool up fast .. the 135i I drive now, both turbos spool crazy fast ... but it still isn't like the 04 cobra I had in regards to low end
That's because of the engine, not the power-adder.
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what do ya'll think of a magnacharger mp122 supercharger with a borla cat back exhaust and headers?
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:34 AM   #41
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You can use small turbos that will run out of boost pretty quick but spool up pretty quick but it will not be 100% instant like the supercharger. Having owned both I like the efficiency of the turbo, but the TQ curve (and cost) of the supercharger ...

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check out the tq curve of the cobalt ss/tc vs the cobalt ss/sc. spoiler, the turbo is flat. the sc less so.
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:37 AM   #42
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Im not saying that don't spool up fast .. the 135i I drive now, both turbos spool crazy fast ... but it still isn't like the 04 cobra I had in regards to low end
way too many factors, weight, gearing, displacment 3.5 6cyl vs 4.6 or 5.4supercharged 8. plus bmws aren't built to snap your neck like a mustang is. Doesn't mean that turbos can't produce instant low rpm torque. This comparison is way more than turbo vs super.
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