TSP 1 7/8" LT's vs ARH

[Doomsday2005]

Just ordered a SLP Loudmouth axleback, and getting ready in april to take my car to San Antonio for headers, xpipe and a tune. In the mean time I was going to have the resonator cut out and straight pipe put there untill april. I have been looking at the TSP LT's, but have been told to go ARH. Any ideas on which to go with and why? And how the car will sound in the meantime adding the axleback LM without the resonator.

[stso634]

The only issue I have heard about the TSP headers are they are manufactured overseas. If this is important to you, go with ARH or some other US made product. The TSP headers were designed by TSP, spec'd by TSP, and are individually inspected by TSP. The set on my car fit perfectly and were the easiest install I have ever been involved with. The only problem I encountered was the #2 plug wire barely touching the header. The fix is to either trim the insulation on the wire or use it as an excuse to install MTI wires (that's what I did).

[Ricky11SS]

mbs headers.
cheap, good performance and a awesome sound!

[geaux_tigerss]

Headers are pretty much all the same. ARH is a premium brand with a premium price.

Do you have an LS3 or L99? If you have the auto you will notice the AFM in a big way without the resonators. If you have the M6 then there is no downside.

[Doomsday2005]

Have an l99, getting it tuned in April though so Ill just have to hear the afm till then. I did the muffler delete the other night and sounds really muffled. I was thinking it had something to do with the resonator so I was going to have it cut off before my axleback LM comes in.

[Matt@Texas-Speed]

When you buy Texas Speed headers you are supporting American families too. We have 15 employees, all Americans, who work here 40+ hours a week, offering only support for this platform, that count on the sells of these headers and our other products. Don't be fooled by our competitor's marketing that buying TSP doesn't support the US and its economy.

[jcollins91106]

Holy crap, yet another tsp headers made in china, Be carefull to take are of our economy. It's all BS! I have a full tsp system and I can tell you it's very high quality, fit very well and I was very happy with the price. I stand behind tsp 100% for those who get their panties in a bundle about ten being made overseas... Stop an think about everything in your home
And realize how much of its made overseas. And as far as the economy goes... Some major companies out there are charging an arm an a leg, for the same qualit product. Now isn't that part of the reason the economy is where it is... OVERCHARGING for a product, on the basis that people will pay or the name! Ridiculous, if it's good quality and puts up good numbers( which based on my dyno graph, it very much so did) who cares where I comes from.

[jcollins91106]

Btw sorry for the spelling errors, sent from my phone.

[The 2010 Sin]

Id stand behind TSP.. I have a few of their products and have done other business with them A+++ Company. JBA took care of me on headers or I would be Using TSP!

[GEEo]

Go with SW. hit up Chase at Apex he'll gave you an amazing deal on some SW LT's. Totally happy with mine and fits like a glove!

[A.R. Headers]

Originally Posted by jcollins91106

Holy crap, yet another tsp headers made in china, Be carefull to take are of our economy. It's all BS! I have a full tsp system and I can tell you it's very high quality, fit very well and I was very happy with the price. I stand behind tsp 100% for those who get their panties in a bundle about ten being made overseas... Stop an think about everything in your home
And realize how much of its made overseas. And as far as the economy goes... Some major companies out there are charging an arm an a leg, for the same qualit product. Now isn't that part of the reason the economy is where it is... OVERCHARGING for a product, on the basis that people will pay or the name! Ridiculous, if it's good quality and puts up good numbers( which based on my dyno graph, it very much so did) who cares where I comes from.

JCollins, Our parts cost more to manufacture because we choose to use only 100% US made components. There is absolutely no overcharging. The ARH name was built with quality and proven performance. You didn't mention us specifically but since this post mentions ARH, I have to comment about overcharging. For the record there's quite a few folks out there that will not buy performance parts made outside the US, especially China. This is why ARH exists and thrives thru a very tough economy.

Having said that I'm sure TSP won't sell you anything they wouldn't use in their own rides. They are a reputable company. Doomsday, go with what suits your needs and good luck with your ride.

Nick

[Brianskeet]

Can't say a word on fit finish quality etc because I don't have them in hand yet, but I ordered ARH for one reason. Every header manufacturer out there compares themself to ARH. "Just as good as ARH" is the phrase that is repeated. So, for just a very few extra bucks I get the headers that everyone agrees is the king of the hill.

[Matt@Texas-Speed]

And for the record, we offer ARH as well!

[DuhKoDuh]

Originally Posted by Doomsday2005

Just ordered a SLP Loudmouth axleback, and getting ready in april to take my car to San Antonio for headers, xpipe and a tune. In the mean time I was going to have the resonator cut out and straight pipe put there untill april. I have been looking at the TSP LT's, but have been told to go ARH. Any ideas on which to go with and why? And how the car will sound in the meantime adding the axleback LM without the resonator.

...not turn you away from these two companies, but i say go with LG MOTORSPORTS in Wylie.

[Doomsday2005]

I have talked to several guys now at TSP and they have been very informative. I wanted to take my car to them to all the mods I am wanting done, but they can't get me in until May and like most I wanted it yesterday. They are super nice and referred me to another shop in San Antonio that they do business with. This shop mentioned ARC so it got my mind going as to what I wanted. It's just that the price difference is substancial. Actually over $1000 for the same setup. Was thinking if the products are similar and good products, I good use that money on something else for my car. I am new to my camaro and mods, so I came to this website for advise as most of you have great advice and have been very helpful. I didn't mean to cause a debate over where the products are made, I just want to know the performance difference. I have done all the appearance mods myself as I wanted to take part in changing my car. Funny my wheels on the back side say Made in China lol.
Thanks for everyones imput. I appreciate it.

[Speed Kills]

Both companies offer great products. I went with TSP simply because of a financial point of view. I used the extra money for plenty of other mods! Good luck either way.

[jcollins91106]

Originally Posted by A.R. Headers

JCollins, Our parts cost more to manufacture because we choose to use only 100% US made components. There is absolutely no overcharging. The ARH name was built with quality and proven performance. You didn't mention us specifically but since this post mentions ARH, I have to comment about overcharging. For the record there's quite a few folks out there that will not buy performance parts made outside the US, especially China. This is why ARH exists and thrives thru a very tough economy.

Having said that I'm sure TSP won't sell you anything they wouldn't use in their own rides. They are a reputable company. Doomsday, go with what suits your needs and good luck with your ride.

Nick

AR,
I should make a point here... I by no means was pointing you out in particular an apologize if it came across like that. Believe me when I say arh makes some awesome headers, I've seen and heard them on several c5's. The point that was being made was that (in several online threads) that people buying from china are traders to our country... That what has bothered me. I actually bought the tsp headers that are fully made in the USA. So I am even more so on your side, I simply wanted to make the point that of you need a pair of headers cheaper, the tsp "china" ones are a good product.

[doomsdayjesus081]

I can tell you the fitment with ARH headers is bar none. I have personally helped a friend install JBA LT's and he had to modify all 8 spark plug wires because they were resting on or within a 1/16" from the headers.