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Old 02-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #1
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Exclamation Bay Area -Planning Thread(March)- Mt Hamilton/Mines Rd Canyon Crawl & Brewery/Winery

This is a planning thread for us to hammer out details and discuss ideas related to the above topic. Once all details are finalized I will create a new thread to avoid confusion.

Goal
To lock in a date, and determine which interests the group more, reserving an entire winery (if we have the numbers), or hitting up a local brewpub in Livermore.

Dates
For Brewpub option - any weekend in March starting the 17th
For Winery option - any weekend in March starting the 17th and ending the 25th.

There is a major event the 31st in Livermore where all wineries get together and do barrel tasting. Over 35 wineries in a single location. This is a VERY busy weekend, and should be avoided unless we end up with only a few people. Details are here. I will be attending this, but I'll list as a separate item as it gets closer.

Food
First Street Alehouse is my primary suggestion since it is NOT a chain, and they do their own brews.

If we go the winery route, many of them have the capability to make food, however we would probably have to make a commitment to an exact number of people (potentially even prepay, I would need to research further if there is enough interest).

Route
The route will start on the San Jose side of Mt Hamilton in Murillo (?). We will need to locate a large enough parking lot (which should be easy to do) to use as a staging ground. We need to be as close to the starting line as possible (reasoning below).

We will end in Livermore at a parking lot TBD to gather up and head to our final destination as a group.




Running Style
Let's be honest here, the number one complaint I hear is how many different driving styles we have and how each prefers to go their own pace and not be forced to keep up or get lost.

We need to add into this that casually this is a moderate skill road, with the skill required increasing the more aggressive you drive. Plus there are a ton of bikes (motor and ped) who will be enjoying this road just as we are, so we need to be aware of them!

I'm open to suggestion, however for now this is how we will operate.

1. Prior to the event, via pm, I will get an aggression rating from each driver (scale 1-100). This rating will determine your order, allowing everyone to drive at their own pace. I will reserve the right to make last minute changes if I think someone's 80 is actually a 30... Also if you list yourself as a 95 with no suspension work compared to other aggressive drivers with heavy suspension, you will be placed behind them.

Shutterbugs should reduce their rating by 50 as you will want to pull over a few times for shots.

2. We will meet up at the gathering point and re-review choke points and 1 lane roads.

3. The pecking order will be announced and I will be directing the cars out of the lot in this order. Keep in mind that this means I'm last and will be behind PacificKing (grandma) when I'd put myself at a 75... So if anyone doesn't drive safe I'll bring you back from the dead and kill you myself~

4. DRIVE SAFE, MIND ROAD HAZARDS, ONE LANE ROADS, OTHER RIDERS/DRIVERS ON THE ROAD!!!!

5. We will gather up at the lot in Livermore. My lovely wife gets carsick easy so she won't join me on this, however she will join at this point and I'll stuff a cooler of drinks and some snacks in her trunk for those who get to the lot and are hanging out waiting on the rest.

6. Once the last driver is in we will fire em up and roll out to our final destination that we decide on below.

7. Have a great time.

8. Drive safe going home.

Other Notes
I'm doing my best to attempt to fix the top complaints I hear about our other events so PLEASE post here or pm if there is anything else you can think of that we should address. I don't mind dropping the hammer to get it done so everyone can enjoy things at their own pace.

This is a beautiful and very enjoyable drive that everyone should experience at least once in their life. Driving casually it is very safe, but like any canyon carve, respect the road.

Let's do this~ :5thgenvert:

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On Mountain Hamilton by flopper, on Flickr


Mount Hamilton Sunset by Images by John 'K', on Flickr


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Old 02-10-2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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In as long as it isn't March 24 or 25th. March 17 would work best for me. Never driven Mines rd from the Mt hamilton side to livermore so this should be a good drive!
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:04 PM   #3
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I'm/We're in for this so long as my job doesn't turn me into a walking dead in the next few weeks. Very well thought out plan Chris. If you need any help, let me know. =)
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:05 PM   #4
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We might be in. How long of a drive is it?
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:27 PM   #5
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We might be in. How long of a drive is it?
Took me a little over 2 hours driving very casual and stopping for pictures.
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Chris, just wanted to add that some lowered cars might want to be careful on 130 up Mt Hamilton from San Jose as the road is SH*T and I know of a couple people who have bottomed out. FYI.......
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:38 PM   #7
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Chris, just wanted to add that some lowered cars might want to be careful on 130 up Mt Hamilton from San Jose as the road is SH*T and I know of a couple people who have bottomed out. FYI.......
I remember reading that. I migh be taking my car then but might ride along with cedes.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:10 PM   #8
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Just don't fly everywhere and we should be fine. =)
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Old 02-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #9
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Right now any weekend in March from the 17th onwards works for me. The sooner we can lock it in the better - so the wife does not book me instead .

BTW - can I say - awesome write up to frame the discussion on the next cruise .
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:08 PM   #10
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In as long as it isn't March 24 or 25th. March 17 would work best for me. Never driven Mines rd from the Mt hamilton side to livermore so this should be a good drive!
Josh, are you going to the Good Guys show those two days? They are running the auto-x for that show.
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Josh, are you going to the Good Guys show those two days? They are running the auto-x for that show.
I'll probably go the other day that weekend but def no auto-x for me after what happened to the carbon camaro last time!
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:42 PM   #12
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:44 PM   #13
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Chris, just wanted to add that some lowered cars might want to be careful on 130 up Mt Hamilton from San Jose as the road is SH*T and I know of a couple people who have bottomed out. FYI.......
I looked into this and from what I learned as long as you aren't lowered more than 1.25" with you in the car you should be fine. There is a few mile stretch San Jose side that isn't very enjoyable, but the rest of it more than makes up for those few slow miles.

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Right now any weekend in March from the 17th onwards works for me. The sooner we can lock it in the better - so the wife does not book me instead .

BTW - can I say - awesome write up to frame the discussion on the next cruise .
Thanks.

I will lock things down on the 25th based on people's preferences and can move forward with reservations etc.
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cedes said she cant do the 17th. she has to work. i might still come if it is that day but i am open to anything but just need to know in advance to request off. i am barely lowered around an inch so i might drive it. but i request to be in the back as always
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Chris, I think you know I'm down, and the pecking order is fine for me, no big. I will be out of town in Napa and Anaheim from the 15th to the 22nd, so the 25th would be best for me. I'm totally up for supporting local places, brew houses, etc, especially if they do their own root beer, so your idea seems good for me.

Count me in for the event on the 31st as well.
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What time were you thinking about starting?

If I can make it, the 17th won't work for me. I have a major convention in Sacramento to attend. I don't know if I can even make it down near san jose in time for the start of the cruise. Please don't base any decisions on my input though. I would love to make it, but have no idea of my schedule until at least next week.
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I'd love to take this drive again without racing through the hills. Unfortunately, I'll be in Boston the time frame you're planning.
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Ah, the drive down from Mt. Hamilton into the Valley is one of my favorites in the Bay Area (and the Country).



You guys mind if a Zeta Platform cousin tags along?

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I'm in. I have no vote for anything because i just like to drive, i don't care where we go or where we eat lol. Mt. Hamilton is a great drive. It's fun to sprint up but you for sure have to be aware that it is heavily traveled by bikers and motorcyclist, also the road is dirty some times. Any who, it's a blast.
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All additional information has been added to the list in the post above this one.

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What time were you thinking about starting?

If I can make it, the 17th won't work for me. I have a major convention in Sacramento to attend. I don't know if I can even make it down near san jose in time for the start of the cruise. Please don't base any decisions on my input though. I would love to make it, but have no idea of my schedule until at least next week.
Time is TBA, however I cannot see us crossing the start line after 2pm. You will want light for this run, and finishing near sunset is quite a sight.

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All are welcome Todd. It's about the love of the road and having a great time.
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While this is very early (I'm closing the voting on 2/25) it appears that 3/24 - 3/25 is the current favorite.
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All are welcome Todd. It's about the love of the road and having a great time.
Awesome!

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First Street Alehouse is a great place to eat/drink/hang... and there is a bunch of parking in the back lot (unless they went and built a building there in the last year).

The 24th I'll be at Goodguys... and the 31st will be flying back from Miller Motorsports Park. Any of the other days in March will work for me.

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I have no preference for food and I'm marked the 24th / 25th March as the possible weekend dates in my calendar .
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