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Old 02-13-2012, 09:29 AM   #1
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To Supercharge or not

First of all, forgive me for asking something that may have been covered in the forum already. I have a new (1,000 miles) 45th anniversary 2SS. I am wanting to super/turbo charge it eventually (just something I have always wanted to do.) I have seen what Whipple and the others have to offer for the Gen5 Camaro and am excited about what is available as a bolt on. My main question is, and it may be a dumb one, but will adding this onto my Camaro void my GM warranty? If so, to what extent? I see where Whipple offers a add-on warranty to the product you buy from them. On a recent "Two Guys Garage" show on Speed TV, they installed the supercharger, headers, fuel booster, etc to a 2010 Pace Car Camaro. I'm sure that this would totally anniallate the GM warranty?

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Old 02-13-2012, 09:36 AM   #2
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Yes. It would be gone. No more warranty.

Also, many people suffer failures in the drive train after such an upgrade. Search around a bit and you'll see that supercharging is only part of the process. You are going to need to sure up the drive line. On top of that, the stock motor does not have the proper components to deal with a supercharger. Forged components would be a wise upgrade.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:38 AM   #3
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Yes. It would be gone. No more warranty.

Also, many people suffer failures in the drive train after such an upgrade. Search around a bit and you'll see that supercharging is only part of the process. You are going to need to sure up the drive line. On top of that, the stock motor does not have the proper components to deal with a supercharger. Forged components would be a wise upgrade.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:43 AM   #4
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Yep supercharging is nice but shit breaks under boost. LS3 more than L99 since people are dropping the clutch and shocking the drive train. Wheel hop also becomes more of a problem so axles will be snapping.

I would say plan on spending at least 10-12K to get the car built up some along with the supercharger to handle the load.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:44 AM   #5
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I suspected the answer on the warranty, willing to wait 90K miles to do it, and the advice on the drive line makes sense... as far as doing anything else, I might as well enjoy my 45th SS as long as I can until I can trade up to the ZL1?
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:46 AM   #6
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A properly built SS with engine/suspension/drivetrain upgrades will wipe the floor with a ZL1, just saying.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:54 AM   #7
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your drivetrain warranty will be toast...yes. Some SC makers offer "supplemental" drivetrain warranties with lots of "fine print".
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:02 AM   #8
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I have the E-force set up on an L99 and the car moves out pretty well. Yes, the warranty is gone from GM, but I did buy a comprehensive warranty through Edelbrock that is pretty comprehensive in what they cover. As long as a good installer put the unit on and it is tuned properly, you should be fine. Yes. There are superchargers out there that probably offer better performance out of the box, but I feel pretty good about my cars ability to handle the relatively 'mild' amount of pressure that the E-force puts on the car without further modding driveline. I do want to do the LS3 conversion to get rid of the L99 lifters that are prone to failure on SC engines.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:09 AM   #9
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That sounds promising.. I am not going to race it, but want that something extra as far as HP and not have to build a race car to do it. I'm loving the fact that even now, I have 425 horses and still get 25 MPg on the highway. Something that was unheard of when I was in my early twenties. Back then, you had to lay down megabucks to even crack 300 HP and then, you had single digit mpg.
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That sounds promising.. I am not going to race it, but want that something extra as far as HP and not have to build a race car to do it. I'm loving the fact that even now, I have 425 horses and still get 25 MPg on the highway. Something that was unheard of when I was in my early twenties. Back then, you had to lay down megabucks to even crack 300 HP and then, you had single digit mpg.
I can run my dad's '11 Grand Sport with my supercharged L99..plus I love how the e-force looks under the hood. (Hell, who am I kidding - I love the looks of ANY of the superchargers! ) The nice thing about the coil covers on the E-force is that they are cast aluminum, not plastic. Impressive construction on the kit. And they dress up well!

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Old 02-13-2012, 11:08 AM   #11
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:57 PM   #12
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Lots of great info, I appreciate it. I think I am going to lean towards the Edlebrock E-Force and really read the fine print on the warranty and chat with my SM about it. I think I will probably outfit with a set of long tubes for it to breathe all the way through. Like I said before, I don't really want a racecar, just something to set my SS apart and also not be intimidated by a 5.0 that pulls up without a snake logo.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #13
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A properly built SS with engine/suspension/drivetrain upgrades will wipe the floor with a ZL1, just saying.

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Old 02-13-2012, 03:07 PM   #14
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Lots of great info, I appreciate it. I think I am going to lean towards the Edlebrock E-Force and really read the fine print on the warranty and chat with my SM about it. I think I will probably outfit with a set of long tubes for it to breathe all the way through. Like I said before, I don't really want a racecar, just something to set my SS apart and also not be intimidated by a 5.0 that pulls up without a snake logo.
chances are for the warranty, your motor has to be otherwise stock, use the edelbrock "canned tune" (so no headers....sorry), and be installed by an edelbrock certified installer.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:23 PM   #16
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ok... thanks...
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:24 PM   #17
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To supercharge or not... Hmm... that's like asking if you can breathe...
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:39 PM   #18
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have you done the supporting mods yet? I was the same way.. sc or not, but once tuned with the supporting mod this car becomes a beast in its own as well. Headers, exhaust, intake, and a mild to aggressive cam will blow you away.
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If you still want a warranty then you can go to SLP with your low milage and they will upgrade you to a ZL car. The warranty is 5 years/100,000 miles and you can take it to any GM dealer to get it repaired.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:39 PM   #20
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Take the time to read some of the posts on the Forced Induction forum further down the index page. You'll need to determine your build objectives.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:01 PM   #21
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The warranty is there to stop you from having fun with your car. Do it! I voided my warranty at about 300 miles on the odometer. It was very liberating.

Seriously though, you have to decide if you're willing to take the risk. Many of us have supercharged our car without issues.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:17 AM   #22
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Contact SLP and get a their SC, a Maggie TVS 2300 installed by your Chevy dealer, a licensed GM tech or SLP and enjoy either a 3/36 or 5/100k powertrain warranty, while your bumper to bumper stays the same through GM. I know, I did it, I have a warrantied 650 HP brand new 2011 2 SS/RS, that I created along with my Chevy dealer.

Bottom line, don't believe everything you read from people that haven't done their research. I did mine, and constantly praise SLP and the work they do.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:03 AM   #23
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Thanks! Actually, one of the recommend installers for SLP is less than an hour from me. I will probably pay them a visit. Thanks for all the advice folks!
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When you are spending the amount of dough ($15k+) on motor, driveline & suspension upgrades.....why worry about a dealer warranty? Need work, just pay cash.....
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That SLP idea is not a bad one - they do nice work. As far as the "Canned Tune" for Edelbrock is concerned...they work with installers to get the most out of the car. Mine is dyno tuned with the warranty in place. Edelbrock was in on the tune. Not sure about the headers though.
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