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Old 01-06-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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$128,000 Z-28 Last night on BJ Auction

Did any of you guys catch the Barrett Jackson Auction on the Speed Channel last night. There was a gorgeous Z-28 on there that went for $128,000, I believe it was a 1969.

It had the RS emblem on the grill and the Camaro Society had originally ruled that it was an incorrect restoration. They had to eat crow when the original owner produced photos of the car at the dealership on day of purchase with both the RS and Z-28 emblems on it.

Muscle cars are still bringing a lot of cash at these auctions, there were a couple of Mach 1s that also sold for a bundle.

Edit: Sorry Mod I put this in the wrong forum
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:50 PM   #2
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:00 PM   #3
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Ya man that car was a 69 and it was gorgeous.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:22 PM   #4
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Was it the 2008 auction on the Speed Channel?
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:51 PM   #5
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It was the 2008 recap from Vegas........wait for the Scottsdale event coming in a little over a week. Then we'll see how the stupid money if flowing.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:21 PM   #6
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Yes, this was a rebroadcast of an earlier auction. There were/are a number of issues suggested about this car that have come to light that could be heading for legal action...if you believe what you read on different camaro websites. Apparently, the 2nd owner sold the vin tag, cowl tag, & upper hidden vin off of the car that was presumably beyond restoration. Many years later, these same items were sold on ebay (around 2003). Several years later, the VIN appears on a restorable Camaro body sold for $128k at the BJ auction in Vegas.

As for the photos, how can a car have a license plate already attached to it on the day of purchase?? I realize that, in some states, you keep the same license plate regardless of the car, but I do not know how common that was back on November 15th, 1968 in Valier, MT where the car was originally purchased (according to the Protect-O-Plate). There appears to be some fraud going on with "desirable" classic cars and arrests have been made in other states of individuals restoring cars and "misrepresenting" their pedigree.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:29 PM   #7
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The big money world of car collecting is no place for amateurs. That said....it should be interesting to see how prices hold up this year with the world economy going in circles. I can't wait till next week. Speedvision now broadcasts in HD which should make it even better.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:40 PM   #8
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Don't miss the 2009 Scottsdale auction starting one week from tonight, Tuesday Jan.13th at 7pm est on SPEED.

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Old 01-06-2009, 08:19 PM   #10
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:54 PM   #11
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6th picture under Las Vegas '08 - Saturday October 18, '08 (only one i could find)
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:41 AM   #12
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:56 AM   #13
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I will take a bite of that crow as well....No way that RS emblem belongs on the grill. The RS Z/28 would not have been built with it there. If it was originaly sold that way it was a mistake by the factory but unless they have fantastic documentation, I call

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Old 01-07-2009, 12:36 PM   #14
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If the Green one above is indeed the one your talking about, here are the rest of the spec's

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The car is currently the subject of an ongoing legal investigation. It has been reportedly confiscated by federal authorities to determine if there was fraudulent activity involved in the restoration of the car.
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:21 PM   #16
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I will take a bite of that crow as well....No way that Z/28 emblem belongs on the grill. The RS Z/28 would not have been built with it there. If it was originaly sold that way it was a mistake by the factory but unless they have fantastic documentation, I call

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I hate to argue, BUT.....if this car is a real Z/28 with the Rallysport appearance, then the Z/28 emblem is the only emblem that should be in the grille. The Z/28 model takes presidence over the RS trim. Just like a Supersport. You never see a RS trimmed Supersport with RS in the grille center, do you?
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:12 PM   #17
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I hate to argue, BUT.....if this car is a real Z/28 with the Rallysport appearance, then the Z/28 emblem is the only emblem that should be in the grille. The Z/28 model takes presidence over the RS trim. Just like a Supersport. You never see a RS trimmed Supersport with RS in the grille center, do you?
The car was a pre production car if i remember right, thats how it came from GM. I defended that this car is correct when this auction was current last year, I started the same thread way back then.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8424
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:44 PM   #18
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I will take a bite of that crow as well....No way that RS emblem belongs on the grill. The RS Z/28 would not have been built with it there. If it was originaly sold that way it was a mistake by the factory but unless they have fantastic documentation, I call

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EDIT: Don't read what I typed, read what I meant. I am such a dork some times. The RS-Z/28 would have only the Z/28 emblem on the grill, not both.
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:45 PM   #19
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I hate to argue, BUT.....if this car is a real Z/28 with the Rallysport appearance, then the Z/28 emblem is the only emblem that should be in the grille. The Z/28 model takes presidence over the RS trim. Just like a Supersport. You never see a RS trimmed Supersport with RS in the grille center, do you?
Yup, I fubbed that one.

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Old 04-03-2009, 03:45 AM   #20
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #21
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:39 PM   #22
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:54 PM   #24
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I understand that this '69 might be some type of pre-production car, but something else is kinda screwy too. The fact sheet above says it has a M-20 Muncie, as far as I know, ALL '69 Z's came with the M-21 standard, and you could upgrade to a M-22. I've never heard of a M-20 in a '69 Z. Hmmm, sounds fishy to me. Everything on these cars is just too easy to fake these days (even the P-O-P), especially by a professional. Heck, it's getting to the point now that you never really know if it is true matching numbers or not. That's one of the reasons I ordered a 2010, at least I know my new one will be correct and original!!!
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:31 PM   #25
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The only options you could NOT get on a 1st generation Z were AC and automatic transmission. All muncie's were available.

And by the way this car has been discussed endlessly on other camaro sites and it's a rebody. (camaro.net, CRG, and others)
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