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Old 04-28-2009, 09:47 AM   #51
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To the ones saying that Optima batteries are the way to go, I disagree. Ive went through 2 new red tops and a new yellow top in the past 4 months. I now use Kenetik Batteries. Check them out. Optimas are good but if your going to spend the money, I PROMISE these are way better. I have two on my dually and my little girl watches movies in it all the time at car shows with the stereo up with 3 12"s, 2 amps, mids and highs, and at the end of the day I can get in and start it right up no problem.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:52 AM   #52
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..... We heard from the dealership, not but 3 hours after they opened and get this.... the battery cable that is routed from the trunk was routed near the starter and rubbed against it. The insulation wore through and the cable shorted out the starter causing a chain reaction, shutting the car down. .......
It is not the battery..... its the battery cable.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:55 AM   #53
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I gotta say, after looking at the pics, Yellow looks the best out of all colors a night. Wow, really nice.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:33 AM   #54
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I've had HORRIBLE experiences with GM's stock ACDelco batteries. They SUCK. They barely last 2 years out where I live.
so the battery below from a 91 syclone should not work when the truck was removed from the barn in 2008? the battery actually started the truck without any help

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Old 04-28-2009, 10:51 AM   #55
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Less than 40 miles. There were 3 miles when it got off the delivery truck. And other 20 put on my the dealership. Before I drove it home there were either 22 or 24 miles on it.
Im glad your car is fixed. I have a question. Why did your dealership put miles on your car?
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Personally, I would just go buy an Optima Redtop (or Yellowtop), take it to the dealership, and tell them to put it in.

I've had HORRIBLE experiences with GM's stock ACDelco batteries. They SUCK. They barely last 2 years out where I live. Not sure where you live but if you have cold winters or hot summers and know that you will be putting the car through some cold starts, I would just swap out that battery now.

The first mod I do to all of my GM vehicles is swap the battery. It will be the same with the camaro.
Im from NJ and my battery is stock and 4 and half years. Im sure its coming to the end of its life cycle but I have never had an issue with ac delco batteries.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:59 AM   #57
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I forgot. My sister got her 86 z28 brand new and it overheated on the first day. Apparently if I remember right the fan wasnt connected. S*** happens. I do feel for you for waiting all that time and boom it dies.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:03 AM   #58
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I wonder if any of the wear on the battery cable insulation occurred while the car was on the transport truck or train? I'm sure the car saw a lot more miles bouncing around on that truck and/or train than it did after it was delivered to the dealer.

Just a thought...
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:15 AM   #59
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Ill join the club. Starter would only be hot when you start the car and would not stay hot for very long, it would not be enough to burn through the wire, also friction between the starter and the cable would not be enough to burn through it either since the car has low mileage.

If this is a design flaw i really hope they do a recall soon, this can cause a serious crash.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:57 AM   #60
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The battery is last on my short list of things to worry about. (unless you saw smoke and flames, then don't worry about it)

Also, any parts replaced under warranty are shipped back to GM. The customer will never see the defective part, much less be given the parts to take home.

I was also wondering why the dealer clocked 17 miles before handing you the keys. Did they have your permission to do so?
Thanks for the heads up on the parts. That's understandable. My husband has already put a call into GM regarding the issue. GM will know about it, really just for future reference.

Regarding the mileage. Here's what went down.... My car was delivered w/ 3 miles on it. Then driven to a bodyshop to have the stripes installed, appx. 4 miles., then back to the dealership, another 4 miles. So now the car had 11 on it. Then they flat bedded it to another bodyshop (the first one tore the stripes). Then I picked it up, now we're 5 days after the delivery, and drove it back to the dealership so that I could finalize everything, about 10 miles. This adds up to 21 miles, and like I said there were about 22-24, can't remember which, when we went to fill it up with gas before I drove her, almost, home.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:02 PM   #61
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Thanks to the OP for sharing all this!

Very happy that soon it will make it's way to it's rightful home!

Oh... and.... If you, ya know... "Want" to take more pics of the car and post em up I bet you will get tired of taken em before I get tired of looking at them
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:13 PM   #62
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we need to get 80Zedder and Mole into this thread so they can tell other workers at Oshawa about this... if they know the problem exists, it can be remedied before it gets out of hand... more likely than not, it was just quick work done to get the cars off the line and it wont happen again, but if the same employee does it day in and day out, there might be more problems in the future.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:15 PM   #63
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I'm extremely happy it was not that bad, that being said i'm sure the experience was terrible. I'm happy your getting your car back soon and everything should be ok. Oh one last thing I called it, same thing had happened to me. Check the link out on the other thread.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...551#post436551

You know, I joined this website because I googled my car and found it in a forum on Camaro5.

Now I have found myself drawn to these forums for the simple purpose that they are, information. Priceless what I have learned already. Thanks for confirming such an incident. And seriously, I can not believe how many people this has happened to. I've never had this happen to me, ever.

Thanks again for being there and providing info.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:20 PM   #64
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I own a battery business and delco side post batteries are famous for the terminals leaking and falling out, its a design flaw and delco knows of the problem and refuses to fix the problem. Thats why I do not sell delco batteries. I did notice that the battery in the new camaro is a top post so that shouldn't be a problem. I thought that was kinda of weird since 98% of GM's cars take side post batteries. A optima battery would be a great replacement battery, they are very good batteries, well before Johnson controls (interstate) bought them out lol just kidding they are still good batteries.
Thank you for your info. I'll keep all this in mind.
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I own a battery business and delco side post batteries are famous for the terminals leaking and falling out, its a design flaw and delco knows of the problem and refuses to fix the problem. Thats why I do not sell delco batteries. I did notice that the battery in the new camaro is a top post so that shouldn't be a problem. I thought that was kinda of weird since 98% of GM's cars take side post batteries. A optima battery would be a great replacement battery, they are very good batteries, well before Johnson controls (interstate) bought them out lol just kidding they are still good batteries.
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every GM side post battery I have ever owned has had this problem... even the one in our 2002 Firehawk, which doesn't get much use and is charged religiously to make sure that it didn't go bad had this problem... I will buy another GM battery to go in the car so it can be in the factory stock class at car shows, but I now have an Optima red top in the car for regular use.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:27 PM   #66
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Im glad your car is fixed. I have a question. Why did your dealership put miles on your car?
To put the stripes on. My dealership doesn't have a bodyshop so they subletted out. That's why.:(
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:30 PM   #67
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Thanks to the OP for sharing all this!

Very happy that soon it will make it's way to it's rightful home!

Oh... and.... If you, ya know... "Want" to take more pics of the car and post em up I bet you will get tired of taken em before I get tired of looking at them

I've already realized I don't have enough pictures. I am going to take a million and post them as soon as I can. I'm trying to figure out how to put them in a thread. Do you have to have the pictures on a specific website, like photobucket, to post them?

To everyone wanting pictures. "I'm on it. Just need my baby back". And I absolutely will try and take pictures of the engine. Thinking of going to the dealership this afternoon, surpise them and get some pictures of the work in progress.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #68
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Wore through the insulation in a day of driving...less than a day of driving. That was one mighty hand job..umm I mean rub job
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Did they give you a shop rental car while you wait to get yours back? Unfortunately I wouldnt be able to afford the downtime as the Camaro will probably be my only means of transportation.
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I feel as though Tran should take this off the main site, you don't want autoblog or other's to get a hold of this
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I've already realized I don't have enough pictures. I am going to take a million and post them as soon as I can. I'm trying to figure out how to put them in a thread. Do you have to have the pictures on a specific website, like photobucket, to post them?
When you're posting your message, click on "Management Attachments" at the bottom and it'll pop up a box where you can "browse" for the photos on your computer. Pick the ones you want and then click "upload" and it'll be inserted into your post.
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so the battery below from a 91 syclone should not work when the truck was removed from the barn in 2008? the battery actually started the truck without any help

What year was the battery produced? That battery also lists that it's 770 CCA. Much more power than my 600 CCA battery had.

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Im from NJ and my battery is stock and 4 and half years. Im sure its coming to the end of its life cycle but I have never had an issue with ac delco batteries.
You're from the south...much warmer down there than it is up in the mountains in Sussex county during the winter.
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that battery was the original battery in a 1991 gmc syclone, so it was produced in 1990-1991
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:46 PM   #75
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Ill join the club. Starter would only be hot when you start the car and would not stay hot for very long, it would not be enough to burn through the wire, also friction between the starter and the cable would not be enough to burn through it either since the car has low mileage.

If this is a design flaw i really hope they do a recall soon, this can cause a serious crash.
Agree,
Highly suspect, most likely the cable was damaged or compromised in some manner during the install,

If there was not a fusible link between the batt and starter the only limiting factors would be the fault current (which is easily over a thousand amps) and the duration time until the battery drained.

Issues like this can lead to fires, I'm sure the factory is all over this, doubt it's design related, anyway could of given you your first excuse to use OnStar and like you said, make sure you tell them it's Decepticon related.
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