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Old 04-28-2009, 10:41 PM   #101
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just my 2cents
I had an Optima fail after ~12 months (edit: just double checked, it was around 12 months)
When I looked under the hood, the battery case was partially warped, like it was baked in an oven.
I took it back to the Napa store I bought it form, owner said I had to take it up with optima.
I called optima and they said to take it back to the store, after 2 more B.S. run arounds, I said f##k it and bought a new Duralaat battery from Autozone. it's been 4 years now, and that battery is still good!

ps I never shop at napa ever again, even if it is closer to me, I rather drive further to the Autozone
screw nappa and screw optima
should have taken it to an interstate battery store,they own optima and will take care of you no matter where you bought it from.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:44 PM   #102
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Hey it looks like the place where the wire is taped is next to a steel ring encircling the starter. And this steel ring looks like it may be bolted to the heat shield. On the other side of the heat shield is the exhaust. Could it be that the intense heat from the exhaust heated up the shield and was conducted through the ring to the insulation of the cable that looks in contact with this ring?
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:55 PM   #103
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Bumleb, this may explain why the starter was so hot - although the electrical short could do this too. I would be interested to find out the temperature of that ring around the starter after the exhaust gets hot...if the ring also becomes hot; I would start wtih insulating the starter from the heat shield and fashion a bracket/heat sleeve to keep the cables away from contacting the starter or the engine block
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:56 PM   #104
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Hey it looks like the place where the wire is taped is next to a steel ring encircling the starter. And this steel ring looks like it may be bolted to the heat shield. On the other side of the heat shield is the exhaust. Could it be that the intense heat from the exhaust heated up the shield and was conducted through the ring to the insulation of the cable that looks in contact with this ring?
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:08 PM   #105
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Ring of fire?
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:35 PM   #106
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You got that right. I tell ya though. I was under mine today checking it out and those mufflers almost look like dual gas tanks. They are huge.
WOW! those mufflers ARE HUUUUUGE!
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:48 AM   #107
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Goodness sakes. I am sitting here shaking my head that people are obsessing over 24 miles on a car at delivery.

Good Lord, that is unblievable. If my dealer puts 50 miles on my car and everything works right when I take delivery, it is not an issue for me. Maybe I am not as out there as some. But this seems a bit over the top.

But then again, I put over 30k miles on my Grand Prix every year.
Can I take your Camaro for a ride? I promise that everything will work fine when I give it back.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:57 AM   #108
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i had a customer come in today, with a 02 maliboo boo, bad battery, delco also
I've never had a battery go bad that wasn't abused.

If I left the headlights on... and had to jump it...

If I left my stereo on too long... and had to jump it...

If the dome light was left on... and had to jump it...

Sometimes you can blame it on bad car owners.
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:17 AM   #109
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:21 PM   #110
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Can I take your Camaro for a ride? I promise that everything will work fine when I give it back.
Yeah I couldn't find anywhere to rent for my Prom... I put about 90 miles on my car at last year's, and everything worked fine when I was done without so much as a new scratch
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:22 PM   #111
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Yeah I couldn't find anywhere to rent for my Prom... I put about 90 miles on my car at last year's, and everything worked fine when I was done without so much as a new scratch
Haha I wouldn't mind borrowing a Camaro for my prom either...
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:45 PM   #112
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:51 AM   #113
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I'm wondering about design flaws. These are built on assembly lines where everything is the same. Unless someone fouled up, there could be more of these show up. Expect flack from Dodge and Ford owners. Hey we do it to the other owners, just hope there aren't many issues with this awesome ride. Good job on releasing it GM, hope it keeps the doors open. Bummed that Pontiac is going away but I hope they make an Impala SS from the G8 GXP. Might even be able to get the El Camino now but that brings more expense that GM just can't afford right now. Maybe when things settle down a bit. Come on GM, pull this off. I have stock that's worthless right now. LOL
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:58 AM   #114
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THIS is the reason not to buy first year cars. I still am waiting to see my first Camaro, but no way in hell I would buy one before the kinks are worked out.

My 2006 GTI was a first year car (in the US) but was in europe for 2 years, so I still haven't had any major issues whatsoever in 40,000.

Still love this car, and since Pontiac is kaput I guess I'll have fo find a way to fit babies in the Camaro, not a G8.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:15 PM   #115
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if all of you new Camaro owners were getting calls from your dealerships soon about a service bulletin regarding this.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:33 PM   #116
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Did you give them permission to drive your car all over the place or they just did it,if stripes are dealer installed it should be done at the dealer
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:16 AM   #117
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glad its an easy fix for you. whats scary about this though is its a problem that could effect more than 1
i believe they are calling a few if not all cars back for this, from this recent news.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:49 PM   #118
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if all of you new Camaro owners were getting calls from your dealerships soon about a service bulletin regarding this.
Called that one.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:04 PM   #119
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Don't know if this has been posted or not but this is the GM bulletin for this issue.

Mine is going in on Monday but its going on OUR lift tomorrow to scope it out..........I'm driving my car this weekend!
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