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Old 02-28-2008, 02:48 AM   #69
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paddle shifters

hey im new to this site and this is my first post. So anyways the c6 corvette is available with paddle shifters (not the Z06). Any idea whether or not this will be an available option on the Camaro?



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Old 02-28-2008, 02:55 AM   #70
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hey im new to this site and this is my first post. So anyways the c6 corvette is available with paddle shifters (not the Z06). Any idea whether or not this will be an available option on the Camaro?



I copied your post moving it to two seperate transmission threads in hopes you might be able to find some info for your question.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:08 AM   #71
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I dont know about the manual thing....hell I dont even know how to use one. I fully understand how it works but never had the chance, or reason to learn. Im a BIG city boy and almost no one drives stick. working a stick and stopping every 100 feet dosent give you the ability to just roll through the gears...funny thing is Im one of those people that cant put my right hand on the steering wheel at all. people always think Im driving a stick, and being that I really dont use my right hand Ive always wanted to learn to drive a stick. I love the Idea of having full contron of my vehicle, but with the hill here in WA I dont like the idea of rolling backwards while getting into first. Id like someone to give me some good reasons to not be lazy and get an automatic (dont mean to jack the thread)
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learn manual and you can drive a TRACTOR on a farm. but you better start learnin now, dont learn in the camaro
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This will probably be my daily driver, so an auto will be nice. But if I get a stick the wife won't be able to drive it.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:34 AM   #74
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My step brother learned how to do manual in ... 10 minutes maybe too. It's not hard at all. Getting reaaaaalllly good at it takes a little while...maybe a couple days to a week. But, it's not like you're killing the tranny while doing it. My bro stalled out once when driving my SS.

We took it to a parking lot and I showed him how easy it was to take off in 1st gear w/out even using the gas pedal....and then how to shift into second still w/out using the gas pedal. You could easily get into 3rd gear as well, but it takes a little longer to get up to speed. Basically, your engine wants to get up to it's idling 900 to 1,000 RPM's and can't because you are going too slow in a certain gear. So, the torque of the engine trying to get up to that higher idling RPM will push the car forward getting it up to a slow speed....enough to get into the next gear.

It's so easy to drive stick. You'll get a quick feel for how the clutch and gas pedal go as you start and stop (as well as shift gears). The most important part is take off...you don't want to scratch the gears.
Your my hero I really just learned to drive stick last year and I was able to do what you are talking about pretty quickly. I figure I have a feel for the road. Maybe I missed my calling in life.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:35 AM   #75
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This will probably be my daily driver, so an auto will be nice. But if I get a stick the wife won't be able to drive it.
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hey Im curious, all you experienced manual guys and gals can you give me some pros and cons for choosing a manual over an automatic?
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hey Im curious, all you experienced manual guys and gals can you give me some pros and cons for choosing a manual over an automatic?
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better gas milage, cost less to fix, more control of car, faster accelleration,
wont be called a noob lol, feels better and more fun to drive

cons
long time to be perfect shifter (about a year), annoying in traffic(although i love traffic with manual you never have to brake), harder to drive in the snow, just the use of your right arm and left foot... cant change the radio every 3 seconds...
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Pros: quicker shifts (at least IMO - I know some will say it's proven that it's quicker w/ auto), better gas mileage is right, better control in everyday driving and in racing, more "connected" feel to the car, admiration of all your friends who wished the would have gotten a stick but ended up w/ an auto!! Not all car theives know how to drive stick.

Cons: Clutch problems (lots of stories that say they go out at or around 60K, scratching the gears can lead to fatal tranny problems, stick makes it pretty difficult to drive if you have a hurt leg or arm (clutch and shifter), driving in stop and go traffic for 2 hours in Austin SUCKS.

In my experience (and this is me ONLY), I'd say that manuals don't last as long as autos. I've already had two manuals rebuilt...and no autos in my 3 Camaros.
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really??? maybe its a japanese thing... my 350z is on original clutch at 220000 km... no problems ... and i drive that hard.... the new 302 68 is stock everything at 120000...lol but tire smoking = less clutch life
but yea i guess autos last longer... any newer-ish car should never have auto tranny problems
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I really want a manual tranny, i have my aunts 97 Tiburon to learn on!, my only concern/reservation is stop and go traffic on a steep hill, and take-offs.

The hill starts i could see as just a matter of skill of the right amt of gas when u switch from brake/clutch to gas/clutch

As for the take-offs, im not sure how well ittl work, in my auto i can get a good rolling start and just giver, or i can just hold the brake and rev the engine to 2000 rpm, let go of the brake and i take-off like a mofo....how would i go about getting such good take-off in a manual??
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It goes from 1st to 4th to save gas at under 15 mph. But, a skip shift eliminator at $15.00 takes care of that problem.

This one could have it, but someone will quickly sell the sse.
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Pros: quicker shifts (at least IMO - I know some will say it's proven that it's quicker w/ auto), better gas mileage is right, better control in everyday driving and in racing, more "connected" feel to the car, admiration of all your friends who wished the would have gotten a stick but ended up w/ an auto!! Not all car theives know how to drive stick.

Cons: Clutch problems (lots of stories that say they go out at or around 60K, scratching the gears can lead to fatal tranny problems, stick makes it pretty difficult to drive if you have a hurt leg or arm (clutch and shifter), driving in stop and go traffic for 2 hours in Austin SUCKS.

In my experience (and this is me ONLY), I'd say that manuals don't last as long as autos. I've already had two manuals rebuilt...and no autos in my 3 Camaros.
good pros and cons list tag. and I will tell you that a built auto will shift faster than a manual. however stock to stock, the driver can shift manual over a stock auto anyday. but if you wanna go equally... say you get a centerforce clutch...ill get a shift kit. ill guarantee you ill shift faster... or hell, i could go with a manual valve body (which is in the works...lol) and shift a whole hell of a lot faster. basically instead of having to push the clutch in, then put it in gear then dump the clutch i just pop it into the next gear.

now as far as rebuilding them, an auto works thru fluid dynamics whereas a manual goes thru direct engagement. this allows the auto not to be pushed past its breaking point cus the fluid can give a lil (which is why they also show as having less hp on the dyno) tho the manual, when you redline clutch dump... isht is going to break. simply put. granted you can do that in an auto by putting it in neutral, running it up in the rpms then popping it into drive. but thats a good way to blow a torque converter or a driveshaft (in either tranny setup)

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I really want a manual tranny, i have my aunts 97 Tiburon to learn on!, my only concern/reservation is stop and go traffic on a steep hill, and take-offs.

The hill starts i could see as just a matter of skill of the right amt of gas when u switch from brake/clutch to gas/clutch

As for the take-offs, im not sure how well ittl work, in my auto i can get a good rolling start and just giver, or i can just hold the brake and rev the engine to 2000 rpm, let go of the brake and i take-off like a mofo....how would i go about getting such good take-off in a manual??
rev to 2300k then dump the clutch while continuing to hit the gas.

for hills and whatnot, you could set the parking brake then as you start to take off, release it, but thats more for when you learn how to hold a manual car on a hill. you could also let the clutch out slightly so its partially engaging to keep yourself on the hill, but be forwarned, repeated use of that technique can lead to premature clutch failure.
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She doesn't want to learn, plus if I buy a stick, I won't have to worry about her stealing my car.
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I don't know if anyone has brought this point up, but if you are even remotely serious about drag racing you would get an auto...PROFESSIONALS use automatic trannies in their cars...plus it is consistent...You will know what your going to run and what you are capable of...you wont run a 13.5, then a 12.98...and then a 14 or 15 because u missed a gear, etc, etc, excuses, excuses....
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pros use the same type of clutch/ tranny as in a weed whacker. uses weights and springs. nessasarily an auto but yeah. excuse me if i misspelled anything
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pros use the same type of clutch/ tranny as in a weed whacker. uses weights and springs. nessasarily an auto but yeah. excuse me if i misspelled anything
Haha, your spelling looks good but a little grammar would be appreciated.
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