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Old 04-28-2009, 04:17 PM   #1
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Production through May

Based on production reports, production should be around 6100 cars for the month of April. Purely estimating, at a run rate of 351 cars per day, and 21 working days in May, adds another 7371 cars. This alone totals 13000 to 13500 cars. Full total is approximately 15,600 cars since January 1. Again, this is just the rationale based on numbers known. Does anyone know what is being produced? As I have posted before, the early orders are getting preference before regular production starts based on quotes and articles previewing the car. Ed Peper was quoted as saying that "these will be built by May or June". This would indicate that outside of White cars, early orders should be done. I think that those of us that are still at 1100, have no information other than what we know from the dealer, and Chevy customer care, should have the expectation that our cars will be built in that time frame; pending known restrictions etc. Also, should we be making the assumption that if we have an order number, that our cars will be built? Or is there a surprise coming based on mix. This is where the dealer sponsors can really help out with the frustration that we face.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:26 PM   #2
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don't forget the close to 6000 dealer cars
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I've been at 3000 for over a month and my dealer claims he has no further info!!!
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not sure if the dealer and avis cars were in the number they tossed out to us.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:11 PM   #5
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don't forget the close to 6000 dealer cars
In my opinion, the dealer number doesn't matter, it is still the same number of cars. If one dealer ordered all 14,000, they still have to be produced in the same time frame. The avis situation is odd also as those cars must be included. That would throw the early orders out of whack. I don't think most of us anticipated that early orders were for "the enthusiast" and the rental flleets.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:29 PM   #6
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In my opinion, the dealer number doesn't matter, it is still the same number of cars. If one dealer ordered all 14,000, they still have to be produced in the same time frame. The avis situation is odd also as those cars must be included. That would throw the early orders out of whack. I don't think most of us anticipated that early orders were for "the enthusiast" and the rental flleets.
nah...the 14000 pre-orders is separate from the 6000 dealer cars and avis orders...the 14000 are just from the "enthusiast" group, the others are on top of that #.
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I've been at 3000 for over a month and my dealer claims he has no further info!!!

I went to 3000 2/27, TRM still has no car, truck drivers saying there are thousands of cars waiting for shipping, etc etc etc. None of this is making any sense unless GM is waiting until after 4/30 to ship when their current promotion incentive ends.
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FIxxer, it depends if you ordered auto or not
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I've been at 3000 for over a month and my dealer claims he has no further info!!!
Hey Fixxer where did you order from?
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:41 PM   #10
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Is their a restraint on the manual? Read a thread that said maybe, and one that said no.....just wondering. Contacted my dealer today and he said my TPW that was there a month ago is now gone!?!?
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:01 AM   #11
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I think they are having more trouble with shipping them than they are having making them.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:24 AM   #13
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if they finish all the pre-orders by may-june, that would be sweet...doubt it, but it would be sweet! just gimme my camaro b4 the 4th of july! so i can take that bitch down to the jersey shore!
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I've been at 3000 for over a month and my dealer claims he has no further info!!!
I have been at 3000 since 3/26. My dealer says that TPW are not being given anymore and the next update will mostly be my VIN or my invoice. But I am patient no really I am!
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Based on production reports, production should be around 6100 cars for the month of April. Purely estimating, at a run rate of 351 cars per day, and 21 working days in May, adds another 7371 cars. This alone totals 13000 to 13500 cars.
That is a really good estimate!
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:26 PM   #16
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We just started our hunt. The dealer (I won't say which one) told us the following:

2) We need to order by May 5 because the factory won't take orders after that date for at least three months. We will be at the mercy of whatever is produced and sent to the dealers.

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This was posted in another thread, can anyone provide validity to this? I hope its just a hoax because that would throw off the numbers
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This was posted in another thread, can anyone provide validity to this? I hope its just a hoax because that would throw off the numbers
Actually I think that would be smart in a way to those who pre-ordered and ordered. Think of it this way. The Camaro will be at nearly every dealer on the 6th and think of all the people that would be ordering. Now with all that FUBAR with the people that ordered back in October this could help speed up their status by not letting anyone order a car at a dealer that has a allotment open.

Personally I like the idea now is it feasible for GM to do that is the question.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:27 PM   #18
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I have been at 3000 since 3/26. My dealer says that TPW are not being given anymore and the next update will mostly be my VIN or my invoice. But I am patient no really I am!
This is good information for everyone right here. I have been talking to another dealer I have a relationship with and they are not getting status updates, only orders pulled for production. Unfortunately, this leaves the enthusiast in the dark, but in reality, the phone call could come that cars are built and ready to ship. Forget the Avis cars, and the dealer unvieling cars, there are 14,000 sold orders that have to be completed before regular production begins. Thanks for your post, it makes some sense out of what is going on.
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It would appear that the only dealers who know what they are doing are the ones who have cars for sale in stock on Ebay. It really cannot be said that pre-orders are getting any preference...nor are the cars that were ordered first getting preference over the cars ordered later based on VIN of the cars that are getting delivered.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:02 PM   #20
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This is good information for everyone right here. I have been talking to another dealer I have a relationship with and they are not getting status updates, only orders pulled for production. Unfortunately, this leaves the enthusiast in the dark, but in reality, the phone call could come that cars are built and ready to ship. Forget the Avis cars, and the dealer unvieling cars, there are 14,000 sold orders that have to be completed before regular production begins. Thanks for your post, it makes some sense out of what is going on.
Are you saying that all the codes are on a freeze, but the cars are still being made regardless. If I'm at 3000 now, it will stay there even though my car is still moving through the system (maybe even built next week) ? I should look for a 3300 or a 3400 at this point, just wait until I get 'the call'
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Are you saying that all the codes are on a freeze, but the cars are still being made regardless. If I'm at 3000 now, it will stay there even though my car is still moving through the system (maybe even built next week) ? I should look for a 3300 or a 3400 at this point, just wait until I get 'the call'

That seems to be what is happening. From my experience, I have had cars come in and the status never went beyond the 3000's. Based on what is going on, the poor information flow that the internet creates, especially with the VIN tracking that was posted; I am sure the a manufacturer of any product wants as little exposure as possible. I think that the next few weeks will clear up alot. I don't think your dealer will get another status update to pass along to you other then delivery or arrival.
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Based on production reports, production should be around 6100 cars for the month of April. Purely estimating, at a run rate of 351 cars per day, and 21 working days in May, adds another 7371 cars. This alone totals 13000 to 13500 cars. Full total is approximately 15,600 cars since January 1. Again, this is just the rationale based on numbers known. Does anyone know what is being produced? As I have posted before, the early orders are getting preference before regular production starts based on quotes and articles previewing the car. Ed Peper was quoted as saying that "these will be built by May or June". This would indicate that outside of White cars, early orders should be done. I think that those of us that are still at 1100, have no information other than what we know from the dealer, and Chevy customer care, should have the expectation that our cars will be built in that time frame; pending known restrictions etc. Also, should we be making the assumption that if we have an order number, that our cars will be built? Or is there a surprise coming based on mix. This is where the dealer sponsors can really help out with the frustration that we face.

I saw in another thread recently that the build rate is nowhere near 351 cars yet. I hope I'm wrong and you're right but the number I saw was still down in the 100s. If this is the case, it would throw your estimate way off.

Anybody have any official number on the current build rate?
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I saw in another thread recently that the build rate is nowhere near 351 cars yet. I hope I'm wrong and you're right but the number I saw was still down in the 100s. If this is the case, it would throw your estimate way off.

Anybody have any official number on the current build rate?
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My dealer called yesterday and said he got 2 SS autos in and didn't even know they were comming and hadn't orderd them. They are being put out as dealer stock. They have several orders our includeing 2 SS models that are awol in transit for like 3 weeks or better. My salesmen even said one of the cars had the wrong window sticer on it. didn't math the vin.
Good news is First one I ever saw live, the car is f'n awesome!! Will be worth the wait, shouldn't be long now guys.
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My dealer called yesterday and said he got 2 SS autos in and didn't even know they were comming and hadn't orderd them. They are being put out as dealer stock. They have several orders our includeing 2 SS models that are awol in transit for like 3 weeks or better. My salesmen even said one of the cars had the wrong window sticer on it. didn't math the vin.
Good news is First one I ever saw live, the car is f'n awesome!! Will be worth the wait, shouldn't be long now guys.
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