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Old 10-24-2012, 02:01 PM   #151
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i never said anything about daves chiller not working.. we knew it was working cause water was getting cold but thought maybe my setup was to big for the chiller to do its job. once we determined the iat where not dropping at all with cooler water we knew that didnt make sense .. so i tracked down all the wiring from the maf to the iat sensor and found a wire on the iat sensor not connected properly..
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:13 PM   #152
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i wish i had some real logs to compare to but i think my iat sensor wire has been messed up for a while!
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:29 PM   #153
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Glad you found that, know we have to figure out how to get that water in the high 30's - low 40's then it should help you a good bit.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:49 PM   #154
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yes sir ,, i worked on it a bit today,,,
will continue tomorrow .. lowest ive seen is 52 degrees
kits is working great tho and i would prefer anyone wanting to lower iat to go with this kit.,, only suggestion would be for dave to write up a little better instructions.. would save alot of trouble and also bothering him!!
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:21 AM   #155
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I was on phone every day with Blake, at first nothing made sense. Once I decided problem had to be with IAT read out, I suggested the IAT table in Tune was off, I have seen this with EForce, they use a TMAP that uses Ford IAT table in Tune. We had a tuner accidentally drop the GM table in and IAT temps were crazy.

After Blake verified tune was good I said it had to be wiring or a bad IAT sensor. No way does water temp go down 50deg and IAT go up 10deg. Blake is hitting it hard with big engine, 17lb boost and Whipple has a very good Intercooler so he wont see the 30-40 deg water most do. Once he dials in Freon charge it should be good. IMHO higher water temp in this case is a result of taking a lot of heat out of the blower. Even at his initial Freon charge he was seeing the guaranteed 50 deg reduction in ICWT. There are advanced adjustments we can make for a high heat application in house but it’s difficult to relate this to a first time installer.
Thanks for hanging in there Blake and good work!
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:22 AM   #156
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I think at ilde from fresh start that chiller should see 40* water for the intial, If not then I would say Dave this is the perfect car to install 2 chillers on just as we were going to do originally on my car, with 2 plumbed in it would get the water to 30* no doubt.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:27 PM   #157
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i saw 45 degree water this morning and 80 iat steady... i think this is the best we can get with my setup.. i had to take a little freon out and then add some take some out .. u get the picture i played with the pressure and finally found a good spot..
45 degree water was in competition mode..
Make sure when u order this chiller get the upgrade with the compitition mode. with the insulation dave provided and kurt rigged up i dont see a drop of water even idling 10 mins great for the track..
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:26 PM   #158
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Dave this is the perfect car to install 2 chillers on just as we were going to do originally on my car, with 2 plumbed in it would get the water to 30* no doubt.
We can do 2 Chillers on a Camaro and it would be cheaper than the Xtreme Chiller.

Here is a shot of Turbo99 Car I did well over a yr ago!



Here is a Quote from Whipped416 today.

“Chiller is working awesome, with this cold weather and chiller on IAT is around 50 degrees .water is 30 degrees”
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:51 AM   #159
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Turbo99 has Dyno results from the first Super Chiller I did over a year ago, what was your power level back then?

You know we can do a dual Super Chiller on a Camaro no problem now (special order). Cost is not that much more.
Also we have been using these remote Vortech Tanks for over a year now on Silverado, C6 and CTS V. This adds nearly 3qts of cold water to system without taking up any space under hood. A second Super Chiller or remote tank can be mounted behind Bumper Cover on left side of Camaro with slight changes to hoses, no visible changes under hood. I like the plastic tanks they have a natural insulation value.



We did this custom aluminum under hood tank to demonstrate the value of an extra gallon+ of cold water. This stage 5 North Star XLR V is running up 30lb of boost with Meth and a 30% larger Super Chiller to tame the 200+ IATs it had. Note the Aluminum is completely insulated.

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Old 10-31-2012, 06:17 AM   #160
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Dam, NOW I hear about a dual kit..... :(
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #161
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B.Buster is the first and only E Force running a Super Chiller, his was one of the first 3 kits I sold in 2011. He bought a Maggie kit and customized the install himself and he still had every part he needed. Before 12/15/11 Customers and Myself are the only ones to install working Super Chillers.

I’m using same setup as the Whipple Kit for E Force Camaros now. With how well the Whipple cools I’m moving the E Force pump to same location to get a clean installation. E Force kit mounts the pump same location I mount the Super Chiller. Whipple and E Force have there reservoir in a similar location

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Old 11-02-2012, 03:45 PM   #162
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Foster742 called me today excited about the Road Racing he did with his Whipple Camaro. It was a nice day in the 70s so he decided not to run the Super Chiller then when he saw how hot the IATs were he ran the Super Chiller next run. Big difference and this is the first On vs Off documentation we have Road Racing. He is not big on Forums but said he would post info this weekend.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:36 PM   #163
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[QUOTE=TrekGTO;5766392]B.Buster is the first and only E Force running a Super Chiller, his was one of the first 3 kits I sold in 2011. He bought a Maggie kit and customized the install himself and he still had every part he needed. Before 12/15/11 Customers and Myself are the only ones to install working Super Chillers.

Dave, Just want to say THANKS. This system is awesome and everyone should get one if you want low IAT's on a hot summer day.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:21 PM   #164
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What is the installation time and what kind of hp bump would I be looking at? Currently at 642rwhp on a maggie at 9.5 boost.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:38 PM   #165
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The kit is not really to make more HP,it's more to keep the IAT in control.
But if your IAT is extremely high you are loosing HP because the ECM is set to start to retard timing around 95F.Unless the tune is modified.
Hard to put a HP gain,but lower IAT the better it will work.

Here in the winter months when I run my Supercharged (TVS) Avalanche.It's fun to see IAT in the 30's F under boost
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:40 PM   #166
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What is the installation time and what kind of hp bump would I be looking at? Currently at 642rwhp on a maggie at 9.5 boost.
Motion427 is correct the Super Chiller keeps IATs down so you don’t loose HP. You should call Whiteside customs they are in McKinney TX and do a great job installing the Super Chiller. Install time is less than a day but I try and schedule the car for 2 days.

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Here in the winter months when I run my Supercharged (TVS) Avalanche.It's fun to see IAT in the 30's F under boost
What year is your Avalanche we have a Super Chiller kit for 07+.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:18 PM   #167
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Foster742 called me today excited about the Road Racing he did with his Whipple Camaro. It was a nice day in the 70s so he decided not to run the Super Chiller then when he saw how hot the IATs were he ran the Super Chiller next run. Big difference and this is the first On vs Off documentation we have Road Racing. He is not big on Forums but said he would post info this weekend.
Out of the products that you offer for the chillers, which would you recommend for a n/a Camaro that will see some road course time ? Or would I be just as well served with a h/e and a better radiator like the Be Cool or both ?
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Motion427 is correct the Super Chiller keeps IATs down so you don’t loose HP. You should call Whiteside customs they are in McKinney TX and do a great job installing the Super Chiller. Install time is less than a day but I try and schedule the car for 2 days.



What year is your Avalanche we have a Super Chiller kit for 07+.

Mine is the 04 Model.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:13 AM   #169
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if i read this correct my car would run as good as it does in the winter in the summer heat with the kit?

the car runs much better in cool weather.
i was trying to find a way to have this power/response in the summer.
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is there a website I can look at for the kit?

I have a whipple and noticed it was now covered.
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is there a website I can look at for the kit?

I have a whipple and noticed it was now covered.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:11 PM   #173
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if i read this correct my car would run as good as it does in the winter in the summer heat with the kit?

the car runs much better in cool weather.
i was trying to find a way to have this power/response in the summer.
not sure if you knew or not but I HAVE this comp version on my car. runs COLD when on
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Dave have you run the remote Vortech tank on the Camaro yet if so where did you mount it and do you have pics?
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Dave have you run the remote Vortech tank on the Camaro yet if so where did you mount it and do you have pics?
The Vortech Tank would be a good idea but I never had a chance to try one on a Camaro.
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