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Old 11-29-2013, 12:58 AM   #1
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Anyone else have CRAZY lumbar-support problems? (1ss)

I'm still under warranty and the lumbar support on my car snapped (unfortunately it's basically chicken wire supporting styrofoam on a 1ss) about 2 months ago and I took it to the dealer for a "fix" and after a week and a half wait for parts I get it back... Less than 3 days (1 full-throttle sprint) later it snaps again. I go back to the dealer for another "fix" (2 weeks wait for the seat part this time) and notice that this time it's put on backwards from the way it was after the first "fix"... the hooks on the lumbar support are facing the front of the car whereas before they were facing the rear. It's all good and well until it snaps yet again about 5 days after I get it back this second time. I'm 6'3 205, not in awful shape, not a fitness-model (in case anyone was immediately thinking I'm a heavy-weight) but I'm sick and tired of this seat issue. Is it just an awful dealership I have? Has anyone else been through/experienced anything like this? I have more than half a mind to throw in a used $200 set of fixed sparco racing seats at this point and say F the warranty
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:35 AM   #2
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I'm still under warranty and the lumbar support on my car snapped (unfortunately it's basically chicken wire supporting styrofoam on a 1ss) about 2 months ago and I took it to the dealer for a "fix" and after a week and a half wait for parts I get it back... Less than 3 days (1 full-throttle sprint) later it snaps again. I go back to the dealer for another "fix" (2 weeks wait for the seat part this time) and notice that this time it's put on backwards from the way it was after the first "fix"... the hooks on the lumbar support are facing the front of the car whereas before they were facing the rear. It's all good and well until it snaps yet again about 5 days after I get it back this second time. I'm 6'3 205, not in awful shape, not a fitness-model (in case anyone was immediately thinking I'm a heavy-weight) but I'm sick and tired of this seat issue. Is it just an awful dealership I have? Has anyone else been through/experienced anything like this? I have more than half a mind to throw in a used $200 set of fixed sparco racing seats at this point and say F the warranty
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i have back problems and have only sat in the leather seats, does this mean the 1SS seats are not the same with just cloth vs leather?
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:42 AM   #3
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Does the 2ss have lumbar?
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:46 AM   #4
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None of the camaro's have adjustable lumbar. It is what it is with these seats.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:51 AM   #5
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I had aftermarket adjustable (electric/pneumatic) lumbar support installed in the factory seats.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:44 AM   #6
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What lumbar support?
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:57 AM   #7
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I had aftermarket adjustable (electric/pneumatic) lumbar support installed in the factory seats.
Link to what you used? I wouldn't mind having the extra support myself.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:33 AM   #8
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I have a 1SS and no issues. I'm tiny tho but my fiancé is 6'4 250 lbs and sits in the passenger seat a lot and no issues either. Sounds like a new seat is in order.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:39 PM   #9
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I don't have a 1SS so I can't comment on the differences in the seats (other then that 2SS is leather), but I'm a bigggg guy at 5'10", 315lbs...and my seats are the best seats i've ever had the pleasure of sitting in and driving in on a daily basis.

The ONLY issue I have noticed with the seats, is they sometimes squeak ever so slightly...that and the glue that GM uses on the seat-belt strap has come loose where the leather is folded under and some of the glue has transferred onto the seat belt itself where it rides between the strap and the seat, causing difficulty to pull the seat belt when putting it on as the gluey portion of the seat belt sometimes sticks to the un-glued portion of the leather seat-belt restraint strap.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:05 PM   #10
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I guess I'll buy a back pillow.

I recently had a 2-level lumbar spinal fusion, and in August I'll be moving 8 hours away from my family for the next 4 years. So I'll be doing a lot of road trips home for visits.

Thanks for the info!
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:28 PM   #11
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I had aftermarket adjustable (electric/pneumatic) lumbar support installed in the factory seats.
I did the same thing in my 2ss. It was easy and it really helped on long road trips.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rp...Fc1aMgodskcAPg This is what I used.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:35 PM   #12
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I did the same thing in my 2ss. It was easy and it really helped on long road trips.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rp...Fc1aMgodskcAPg This is what I used.
That looks like the same kit that I have in mine. Looks factory & does over good lower back support.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:39 PM   #13
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I did the same thing in my 2ss. It was easy and it really helped on long road trips.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rp...Fc1aMgodskcAPg This is what I used.
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That looks like the same kit that I have in mine. Looks factory & does over good lower back support.

any issues with the seat airbags? I have been afraid to mod the seats with a seat cooling kit for that reason..
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:12 PM   #14
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any issues with the seat airbags? I have been afraid to mod the seats with a seat cooling kit for that reason..
no airbags in the seat that I know of. took the seat cover off to install and saw no airbag.
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no airbags in the seat that I know of. took the seat cover off to install and saw no airbag.
Our seats have a airbag in the outside shoulder area.
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no airbags in the seat that I know of. took the seat cover off to install and saw no airbag.
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Our seats have a airbag in the outside shoulder area.


mine does as well
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[QUOTE=Mr. iNCREDIBLE;7225141]mine does as well[/Q

Unlike the Camaro coupe, which has side curtain airbags, the convertible only has frontal airbags for the driver and front passenger. Nor are there side-impact airbags mounted in the front seats. So no my car has no airbags in the seat. Repeat no airbags in the seat.
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Our seats have a airbag in the outside shoulder area.
Unlike the Camaro coupe, which has side curtain airbags, the convertible only has frontal airbags for the driver and front passenger. Nor are there side-impact airbags mounted in the front seats.
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:33 AM   #19
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I feel your pain OP...

I'm just shy of 6' tall and about 170 lbs soaking wet. I commute in the car and I definitely feel like the lumbar area is lacking. Other than that I love the seats.

I haven't checked to see if mine is broken like yours or not, but it could definitely use some support.

Any of you guys who installed the aftermarket lumber - Do you think you could post up some pics and more detailed info please? I'm very interested in this
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:55 AM   #20
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lumbar problems..
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:07 AM   #21
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I've got 32k miles on my 1SS, am 6' and 175#. No seat problems. Took the Camaro on a 4,000 mile cross country trip this summer with no seat comfort issues. I'd try a different dealer. Doesn't mean yours is bad, perhaps just not skilled in seat repair
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:42 AM   #22
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Link to what you used? I wouldn't mind having the extra support myself.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:49 AM   #23
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Unlike the Camaro coupe, which has side curtain airbags, the convertible only has frontal airbags for the driver and front passenger. Nor are there side-impact airbags mounted in the front seats.

I believe you are incorrect..
according to the owners manual on a 2011 and a 2012 CONVERTIBLE:



3-24 Seats and Restraints
Airbag System
The vehicle has the following
airbags:
.
A frontal airbag for the driver.

.
A frontal airbag for the right front
passenger.

.
A seat-mounted side impact
airbag for the driver.

.
A seat-mounted side impact
airbag for the right front

passenger.


The vehicle may also have the
following airbags:
.
A roof-rail airbag for the driver
and the passenger seated
directly behind the driver.

.
A roof-rail airbag for the
right front passenger and the
passenger seated directly

behind the right front passenger



every Camaro I have ever seen has this on the seat:





and I just verified with my brother-in-law, his 2011 2LT/RS has that same AIRBAG tag on his seat.

you might want to go double check your vehicle, but according to GM ALL Camaros have seat airbags and SOME have side curtain airbags (coupes)
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:12 PM   #24
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The lumbar problem is well known. A lot of people have had it. My 1lt has broken twice and been fixed twice under warranty. Mine also had the hooks reversed on the repair and so far it's held up...but I'm not too optimistic about the future. These things are built to a price point and it appears to be quite low.
The first time I looked at the lumbar and upper back support in our cars, I was horrified at the extreme lack of quality.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:36 PM   #25
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I believe you are incorrect..
according to the owners manual on a 2011 and a 2012 CONVERTIBLE:



3-24 Seats and Restraints
Airbag System
The vehicle has the following
airbags:


.
A frontal airbag for the driver.
.


A frontal airbag for the right front
passenger.
.


A seat-mounted side impact
airbag for the driver.
.


A seat-mounted side impact
airbag for the right front
passenger.


The vehicle may also have the
following airbags:


.


A roof-rail airbag for the driver
and the passenger seated
directly behind the driver.
.


A roof-rail airbag for the
right front passenger and the
passenger seated directly
behind the right front passenger



every Camaro I have ever seen has this on the seat:





and I just verified with my brother-in-law, his 2011 2LT/RS has that same AIRBAG tag on his seat.

you might want to go double check your vehicle, but according to GM ALL Camaros have seat airbags and SOME have side curtain airbags (coupes)



According to this review the 2011 Camaro convertible does not have side seat airbags. My seats don't have that tag on them. I could be wrong. Anyway it is not in the way of adding lumbar support.

http://www.cars.com/chevrolet/camaro...expert-reviews


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