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Old 02-22-2012, 03:26 PM   #18
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LOL.. just saw this one earlier... Tapshift on the back of the steering wheel will always be worthless especially on a road track.

What I did like to see was the firmer shifting and what is sure to be a much tighter tuned transmission than the SS. Makes me go hummmm
I agree, that's why I developed the tapshifter.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:32 PM   #19
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That's cool but.. that top speed can't be right.. can it? Only 184? Isn't the ss about 175?
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:36 PM   #20
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:37 PM   #21
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LOL.. just saw this one earlier... Tapshift on the back of the steering wheel will always be worthless especially on a road track.

What I did like to see was the firmer shifting and what is sure to be a much tighter tuned transmission than the SS. Makes me go hummmm
I believe Ferrari placed their paddles on the new 458 Italia in a similar position and received some ridicule but their reasoning was that a driver SHOULD NOT be changing gears during a turn...

I know on roadbikes at the track guys shift in a turn all the time and it makes for quicker lap times so I don't see how that concept wouldn't transfer over to 4 wheels. But who am I to judge, Ferrari has one numerous F1 championships so I'm sure they know more than me about racing cars.

I think this is great news for auto owners. I just couldn't justify the extra $1300 Gas Guzzler tax and the $1200 for the auto...But I would definitely be a happy camper if I ordered one this way!
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:42 PM   #22
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I had a 2010 camaro and now have a 2012 both autos and the tap shift is faster on the 2012!!!
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:43 PM   #23
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Sweeeeeeeeeeet, my only question is why did the magazines not test a auto ZL1 Road & Track as well as Automobile Magazine were quoted as saying there was one there during testing Posting the auto ZL1 times could have avoided the times for the ZL1 being all over the place.

HAHA!! The "AUTO" is the answer to 650 HP my friends!

Thanks for the post Dragoneye! Good to see some more GM input on this auto. Would like a bit more!
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:06 PM   #24
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HAHA!! The "AUTO" is the answer to 650 HP my friends!
Not to turn this into another one of those threads but this is exactly why I said in another thread that the ZL1 auto will hang with the "other" new car in a 1/4 mile.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #25
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Pretty cool!!

Here's a VIDEO of the shift response. Damn quick, if you ask me!!


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Old 02-22-2012, 04:19 PM   #26
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HAHA!! The "AUTO" is the answer to 650 HP my friends!

Thanks for the post Dragoneye! Good to see some more GM input on this auto. Would like a bit more!
Well stated.......

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Old 02-22-2012, 04:24 PM   #27
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HAHA!! The "AUTO" is the answer to 650 HP my friends!

Thanks for the post Dragoneye! Good to see some more GM input on this auto. Would like a bit more!


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Well stated.......

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Plus the ZL1 is NOT a "one trick pony"........
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:35 PM   #28
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But does it blip the the throttle on downshifts? If not then you will upset the car badly on road course events
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:35 PM   #29
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That's cool but.. that top speed can't be right.. can it? Only 184? Isn't the ss about 175?
I like how someone can say only and 184MPH in the same sentence......

The ZL1 Camaro has wider tires and other attributes which results in higher drag reducing its top speed. Also the ZL1 Camaro does 180MPH at 5,200rpms (manual transmission car) though I wouldn't be shocked to see them easily beating 180MPH in the right condition. Also its possible that it is electronically limited to 180MPH for manual and 184MPH for auto. Not something that a little more power won't fix though, give it 700BHP and watch 180MPH fall..
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But does it blip the the throttle on downshifts? If not then you will upset the car badly on road course events

toilets...I'm not sure, but I heard on one of the GM videos (can't recall which) that it simply keeps it "in" the proper RPM range (a tuned feature to avoid such blips, or make them controlled and predictable)... will be nice to see what folks can really do with this on a road coarse.. someone has to have done this on the ring (just saying).....
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I like how someone can say only and 184MPH in the same sentence......

The ZL1 Camaro has wider tires and other attributes which results in higher drag reducing its top speed. Also the ZL1 Camaro does 180MPH at 5,200rpms (manual transmission car) though I wouldn't be shocked to see them easily beating 180MPH in the right condition. Also its possible that it is electronically limited to 180MPH for manual and 184MPH for auto. Not something that a little more power won't fix though, give it 700BHP and watch 180MPH fall..
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I think this is great news for auto owners. I just couldn't justify the extra $1300 Gas Guzzler tax and the $1200 for the auto...But I would definitely be a happy camper if I ordered one this way!
Isn't it astonishing how much value we place on things? I agree with you - this is excellent news! What I find entertaining is that a few hundred miliseconds is worth 2500 to us.

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But does it blip the the throttle on downshifts? If not then you will upset the car badly on road course events
A good question...

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As far as I'm concerned (and I'll stop here to avoid going too far off-topic)...Downforce I can use. Top Speed I cannot.
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