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Old 05-11-2009, 04:16 PM   #51
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Odds are the base V6 Genesis would still outperform the Camaro, there aren't too may differences between that and the track that would dramatically effect the numbers. My main gripe is that the C&D article had to use the "gotta have it factor" in order for the Camaro to win by 1 point. Take out that erroneous and purely subjective category and the Genesis would have won by several points.

Now would the SS beat the Gen? No question. But the bottom line is that the V6 Gen outperforms the V6 Camaro. Both are still great cars and one would be lucky to have either one though.
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Odds are the base V6 Genesis would still outperform the Camaro, there aren't too may differences between that and the track that would dramatically effect the numbers. My main gripe is that the C&D article had to use the "gotta have it factor" in order for the Camaro to win by 1 point. Take out that erroneous and purely subjective category and the Genesis would have won by several points.

Now would the SS beat the Gen? No question. But the bottom line is that the V6 Gen outperforms the V6 Camaro. Both are still great cars and one would be lucky to have either one though.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:11 PM   #53
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Why do some people think it's not a nice looking car? Looks good to me.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:28 PM   #55
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:36 PM   #56
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Odds are the base V6 Genesis would still outperform the Camaro, there aren't too may differences between that and the track that would dramatically effect the numbers. My main gripe is that the C&D article had to use the "gotta have it factor" in order for the Camaro to win by 1 point. Take out that erroneous and purely subjective category and the Genesis would have won by several points.

Now would the SS beat the Gen? No question. But the bottom line is that the V6 Gen outperforms the V6 Camaro. Both are still great cars and one would be lucky to have either one though.
i think it would. maybe not in the speed department, but it does lose the brembos, and also the track tuned suspension. you also lose the summer tires. the Camaro would likely then beat the Gen coupe 3.8 in grip, braking and over all handling. it is practically even with out the camaro even having track suspension, summer tires, or brembos. the camaro would have likely won had they tested a RS with the 20" summers


and, i will still point out, we are putting a TOP OF THE TOP genesis coupe against a middle of the bottom Camaro.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:37 AM   #57
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I looked at both cars back to back the other week. I initially was all about the Camaro....

Keep in mind these are the V6 models I'm comparing. Based off of the pictures I thought the Camaro is the better looking car NO CONTEST, in person, the Genesis' sleeker, smoother, and I guess you can say more "classy" look earned some points, the Camaro has a much more boastful and imposing look to it, I guess it would depend on my mood in terms of which I'd like to look at.... I'll give the Camaro the edge for now though. We'll see if it stands the test of time as well as the more understated (which is a trait that usually does last the test of time well) Genesis. I can see one of two negatives happening: The Genesis becomes boring to look at after seeing enough, or the Camaro gets tiring and dated fast due to its relatively over-stated and dramatic look.

I didn't drive either so can't comment on that (I did drive the Sedan though and was thoroughly impressed by its serenity).

Interior wise the Genesis kills the 'Maro, just feels like an "adult" car compared to the Camaro's more "kids car" like charm or drawback (depends on the person who's judging it).

The V6 Camaro I looked at was like $28K, and the Genesis was $25K, the 'Maro was extremely base and left me kind of cold, the Genesis seemed more confidence inspiring to look at and sit in. With those prices I'd have to say the Genesis has the edge IMO. Now give me about 6 months and I'll tell you if I still hold that opinion.
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First: I think it was the Car & Driver article that said the mustang and challenger basically didn't rsvp. I think that tells you where those cars are.

I think it was a fair comparison. with all the "stuff" the Genesis was $1000 more. The Genesis actually performs pretty well acceleration wise, and in the C&D test the Genesis out-braked the Camaro. The 2 cars were compared to each other on the same day and same surface, so its not like I am taking the numbers that fit my needs.

I was a little disappointed when I saw the camaro didn't win (performance wise). I think the Hyundai is the Camaro of the ricer crowd. Hyundai is getting better and better with ever car they make. I never thought I would say that.
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:52 AM   #59
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I know the Fast and the Furious movies are lame but every time I think of a Hyundai I think of that line from Tokyo Drift when Han says * This is yours *evo* Your representing me now. what did you think I was going to let you roll in a Hyundai. Ha-Ha i think of that line every time I see a tibby.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:48 AM   #60
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Drove the genesis V6 base car yesterday (if you remember...I said I would when I drove the 2.0)

If the Camaro is as similar in performance as people say, it's gonna sell like hotcakes!
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:07 PM   #61
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Drove the genesis V6 base car yesterday (if you remember...I said I would when I drove the 2.0)

If the Camaro is as similar in performance as people say, it's gonna sell like hotcakes!
The Camaro is between .1 and .6 seconds slower depending on the test. Still not bad though considering the weight of the Camaro.
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i dont dislike the genny, it just seems like the run of the mill import. sure its a smig cheaper than the rx8 and quite a bit cheaper than 370, evo, and sti...but i dnt think that is enough, its still bottom half of the import category.

i also learned a cool fact about the commercial for the genny. in the commercial, the car looks GREAT, its drifts with such ease and agility, he apears to have no trouble slinging the back end around and smoking the tires......

road atlanta, was wet that day.
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road atlanta, was wet that day.
Uh... and you know this...how? From a video on the internet? Show me some facts then I'll believe you.


Just look at the '10 Mustang flogging around the track in Japan during its drift demonstrations. It weights quite a bit less than the 'maro. The same can be said of the Gen coupe. Both cars have good power output with less weight AND they are RWD. Of course its going to be easy during drifts in the race tracks.
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i dont dislike the genny, it just seems like the run of the mill import. sure its a smig cheaper than the rx8 and quite a bit cheaper than 370, evo, and sti...but i dnt think that is enough, its still bottom half of the import category.

i also learned a cool fact about the commercial for the genny. in the commercial, the car looks GREAT, its drifts with such ease and agility, he apears to have no trouble slinging the back end around and smoking the tires......

road atlanta, was wet that day.
I fail to see how that matter any.
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I fail to see how that matter any.
i fail to see where i said it mattered to you. it was just a random fact that i found interesting. so i shared it.

and yes, it was a behind the scenes video that showed the driver, and he commented on how it handled on the wet track. ill send a link to it later, the schools computers have way to many blocks
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i fail to see where i said it mattered to you. it was just a random fact that i found interesting. so i shared it.

and yes, it was a behind the scenes video that showed the driver, and he commented on how it handled on the wet track. ill send a link to it later, the schools computers have way to many blocks
Cows have spots.

I don't know if that matters to you, but just a random fact I found interesting.
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The V6 Camaro I looked at was like $28K, and the Genesis was $25K, the 'Maro was extremely base and left me kind of cold, the Genesis seemed more confidence inspiring to look at and sit in. With those prices I'd have to say the Genesis has the edge IMO. Now give me about 6 months and I'll tell you if I still hold that opinion.
At the 25k price point, you were probably looking at the 2.0T version instead of the 3.8 Track. The 3.8 Track goes for about $31k.
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At the 25k price point, you were probably looking at the 2.0T version instead of the 3.8 Track. The 3.8 Track goes for about $31k.
It could have easily been a 3.8, they actually start at 25k.
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Cows have spots.

I don't know if that matters to you, but just a random fact I found interesting.
really? all cows have spots? no.

correction SOME cows have spots.

and, what does this have to do with the 3.8 Genesis with the track pack, or the camaro V6? nothing, thanks, you have failed to stay on topic.
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It was a 3.8 un-Optioned model, @ $25K. Good bargain, I'd say better than the Camaro V6 all in all. The only thing that would sway me into a Camaro 6'er over it would be the "cool-factor" and exterior styling in a sense (more dramatic, which can be either a good or bad thing again, depending on my mood). In a year or two it will be interesting to see which cars design approach has allowed it to remain attractive to look at in a timeless sense.
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Sorry but, the Genesis Coupe does turn some heads. My neighbor owns one (well, he owns the entire dealership) and I have taken it to school a couple of times. People stop you in traffic and ask you what kind of car that is, and you get to see their jaws drop when you tell them it's a Hyundai.
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Sorry but, the Genesis Coupe does turn some heads. My neighbor owns one (well, he owns the entire dealership) and I have taken it to school a couple of times. People stop you in traffic and ask you what kind of car that is, and you get to see their jaws drop when you tell them it's a Hyundai.
I saw one on the highway a few weeks ago ... it barely grabbed my attention. At first I didn't even realize it was a new car until I noticed it said Genesis. I am sure the import crowd will eat it up though.
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I've yet to see one in MA yet, I've been hoping to see either a Gen. Coupe or Camaro but haven't seen either. I used to own a decently modded '05 Tiburon and know the quality of Hyundai is solid but that engine was anemic, so I'm happy to see them with a great new RWD platform to work with. If it was between the V6 versions only, I'd probably go with the Gen. Coupe only because I'd get tired of people asking me whether or not the Camaro is the V8, but as for exterior styling, I actually like the Camaro much better although both are sharp cars.
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It could have easily been a 3.8, they actually start at 25k.
No, they don't. The 3.8 track starts at 31,250.
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