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Old 04-29-2009, 06:33 PM   #1
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in the V6 do they say to change the oil every 3k miles or 5k?

most new cars oil change is every 5k miles i hope this one is too
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:06 PM   #2
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The computer has a program based on driving cycles, distance, etc. to tell you when to change the oil. More highway trips, and it will extend further. On my 05 cts (3.6L v6), I went over 10,000 miles between changes, based on what the computer told me. This is with mostly highway driving. These engines use synthetic also, which typically gives you some more time between changes, and the computer takes all of this into account (since they recommend synthetic from the factory).
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:11 PM   #3
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most new cars oil change is every 5k miles i hope this one is too
Change the oil based on what the oil monitor dictates. The V6 should use Mobil 1 as in the CTS and based on your driving you might change it once a year. Don't change it any more than you have to. It's a waste of money.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:13 PM   #4
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cool thanks

i drive 25k miles a year so i think i might have to change it more then that.i hope its not a pain in the ass to change the oil in these cars
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:13 PM   #5
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OLMS (new acronym for oil life monitor system?) is prettty accurate. It takes into account how many times you start and stop the car, temperatures, average speed, etc. You can go up to 10,000 miles before changing. My wife's Malibu got it's first oil change @ 8,700 miles and it was still at 21%.
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Can you really rely on the oil warning thing? I've only seen it in my truck once. And I usually change it every 8k+ miles (synthetic).
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I rely on the oil warning thing in my 2002 GMC, except when I'm lazy or busy and go a lot longer than it says. I've got 183,000 miles and it's still going strong.
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Old 05-15-2009, 05:23 PM   #8
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it better be more than 5k, hell i would venture it will routinely hit 10k without any questions.

between using synthetic and the fact that it has a lot of oil i would imagine this engine would probably have no problem in the 10k+ mile range.

As at least some comparison i drive around a V6 alero (3.4 liter) which uses regular oil only takes 5 or so quarts. i get 6-7k miles out of an oil change pretty easy. Now most of my driving is highway miles but still. the Camaro has a slightly bigger engine with a much bigger oil reservoir. the discussion for this car starts in the 7k mile range and like i said im sure goes into the 10k mile range depending on type of driving.
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Old 05-15-2009, 05:29 PM   #9
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i change every 5,000 KM. no matter what the sensor says. i think it is best for the car, and if it helps prevent further mechanical problems, then ill do it every 5,000 KM (about 3,000 miles)

btw i only drive like 10,000 KM a year (6,200 miles), so twice a year really doesnt break the bank
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7.6 quarts of Mobile 1 just might break the bank for some of us!
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:56 PM   #11
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between using synthetic and the fact that it has a lot of oil i would imagine this engine would probably have no problem in the 10k+ mile range.


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7.6 quarts of Mobile 1 just might break the bank for some of us!
9 qts of RP is a lil pricey as well. oh wait, thats for my SS
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:29 AM   #12
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I usually change it around 4,000 to 4500 miles and go till the OLMS says 55 to 50 %. I trust it, but to me going below 55% like a failing grade.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:45 PM   #13
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I followed the computer on my Pontiac G6. It had 6600 miles when it called for the oil change. I changed it and sent a sample to Blackstone Labs in Indiana. They said the oil was still good and I could run it to 7500 miles! I was running Castrol Syntec.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:45 PM   #14
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Number 3's computer did not request an Oil Change til nearly 10,000 miles. But keep in mind, half of that was highway to California and back.

The computer calculates oil condition based on load, rpm etc. to determine when the oil needs to be changed. It is quite well thought out and tested. The oil change shops will still want you to go 3,000 miles, but your car knows better than them.

HA! You have a car so smart it wants to save you money for gas to do burnouts.

I mean it wants to save you money.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:49 PM   #15
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If you really want to know how often to change your oil you have to have it tested. I have oil tested here http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ Go there and read some. Its worth knowing. Synthetics are good but contaminates in your oil can cause more wear. They also tell potential problems you would otherwise not be aware of.
I got into doing this because of my 7.3L Diesel which takes 15quarts for a change. Some people run extra filtration systems to filter out contaminates. That allows for extended runs between changes.
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Number 3's computer did not request an Oil Change til nearly 10,000 miles. But keep in mind, half of that was highway to California and back.

The computer calculates oil condition based on load, rpm etc. to determine when the oil needs to be changed. It is quite well thought out and tested. The oil change shops will still want you to go 3,000 miles, but your car knows better than them.

HA! You have a car so smart it wants to save you money for gas to do burnouts.

I mean it wants to save you money.
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It's funny, I just thought my OLMS was broken or something in my truck til one day when I was "way late" for an oil change it popped on. I was like "woa, so that's how this thing works!" Needless to say I'll just trust it from now on.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:10 PM   #17
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what kind of filter you guys use? Fram?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:45 PM   #18
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:17 PM   #19
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I change oil in my vehicles every 3000 miles no matter what.

I will do the same with my car... and I will be using probably Mobil 1 every time as well.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:41 PM   #20
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3000miles is proven to be excessive and not necessary. Unless your doing something extreme or letting the car sit. 3000mi has been proven to be a mechanics gimic to get more business. Just about any body would agree 5000mi is probably a good average time to do it.
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Is there any oil change mileage requirement for the warranty?
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Is there any oil change mileage requirement for the warranty?
Read the second post in this thread. The car will display "Change engine oil" when it's time. If you have a warranty claim that can be blamed on not changing the oil, and they think that you in fact did not change the oil, then you'll have a hard time.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:22 PM   #23
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Read the second post in this thread. The car will display "Change engine oil" when it's time. If you have a warranty claim that can be blamed on not changing the oil, and they think that you in fact did not change the oil, then you'll have a hard time.
I know it sounds paranoid, but I've always changed my oil at 3000 in my car because the manual said to and I wanted to make sure that at no time I could be blamed for not changing the oil, thus causing _____ to happen and voiding my warranty. I guess I've just always had a trust issue with dealer mechanics

Do you know if the computer in the camaro keeps a log of the oil change messages and when they were reset?
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I know it sounds paranoid, but I've always changed my oil at 3000 in my car because the manual said to
I suspect the 2010 Camaro's manual says to follow the computer's recommendation, as does the manual for my 2002 GMC.

Interestingly, even my 1980 Buick's manual doesn't say 3000 miles...it says 7500. Considering the crappy tolerances/quality control/materials and oil used back then, I guess it makes sense that the warranty wasn't particularly long.

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Your engine was filled with a high quality engine oil when it was built. You do not have to change this oil before the suggested change period.

If your engine is not a turbocharged engine and your normal driving does not include one or more of the four "severe service" conditions listed below, change the oil every 7,500 miles (12 000 kilometers) or 12 months, whichever comes first. Change the oil filter at the first oil change, then every second oil change, if mileage (7,500 miles or 12 000 kilometers) determines when you change the oil. If time (12 months) determines when you change the oil, change the filter with every oil change.

Change the oil and oil filter ever 3,000 miles (4 800 kilometers) or three months if you often drive under one of more of these "severe service" conditions:
  • Driving in dusty areas
  • Towing a trailer
  • Frequent idling or idling for long periods
  • Driving 4 miles (6 kilometers) or less in freezing weather, or other short trips in cold weather, where the engine does not htoroughly warm up.
If you have a turbocharged engine, it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to change the oil and oil filter every 3,000 miles (4 800 kilometers).

Change the oil and oil filter as soon as possible after driving in a dust storm.
It's very clear about the definition of "severe service", and what it describes does not match the driving that most people do.

Also, check this bit on break-in:
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You can drive your new Electra/LeSabre from its very first mile/kilometer without following a formal "break-in" schedule. However, there are things you can do during the first few hundred miles/kilometers of driving that will add to the future performance and economy of your car.

We recommend you limit your speed during the fir 500 miles (800 kilometers) to a maximum of 55mph (90 km/h); but do not drive for long periods at any one constant speed, either fast or slow. During this time, avoid full throttle starts and, if possible, avoid hard stops especially during the first 200 miles (320 kilometers) of driving.

Always drive at moderate speed until the engine has completely warmed up.

If you plan to use your new car for trailer towing, see additional information on page 1-15.
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My 80 Skylark said the same thing.
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