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Old 03-01-2012, 10:57 PM   #154
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Joe has been a moderator on this site since, I believe, its inception (or shortly after its inception)

Because this is one of the largest enthusiast sites out there for ANY car - it was only natural that we select someone from this site to attend the VIR event.

Joe has always amazed me in that his maturity far exceeds his age. He's intelligent, trustworthy, level-headed, and he's demonstrated thru his actions that he's deserving to have such an opportunity. (not saying by any means that others are not deserving...)

I think that simply reading his exceptional reporting of his experiences answers the question.
Why can't some Journalists write this well? That's not a slam at anyone - but when was the last time you read an article that felt like you were actually in the car with the driver?? Myself? I can't recall......

And for what it's worth? I'd be proud to have Joe as a son. (I'd say "brother" but I'm ancient and he's a young man in his 20s....) Further, I'm proud to call him "Friend" --

(.....and I had nothing to do with him being chosen......I know too many people due to my many years of travelling to Camaro/Firebird shows - thus the team picked the attendees...)
Oh, Scott...Thank you.

Your words (especially you being you) do me a great honor.

However it was that I was invited to this opportunity...I am, and forever will be so very grateful for it. I was not asked to write something "in return", nor did it ever seem expected of me...I wrote what I did because that's exactly how I felt - and wanted to share it with everyone who couldn't be there with me.

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I'm obviously biased, but I think Joe honored his selection greatly with his write up... I think when they read it, they'll have no doubts they made a good choice.

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Great story. Soooooo jealous.

It just goes to show the effort they put into the car.
ABSOLUTELY! I can't tell you how many times Tony Roma would highlight something and my only response was "no way!"

For example...remember that little "ZL1" metal piece on the shifter? Even though it looked amazing - it was removed because they discovered the corners would dig into a driver's hand occasionally...and they couldn't allow that on a Camaro of this caliber.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:08 PM   #155
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Great to have you part of our press review, Joe. You and Chris have provided a great deal of help to the Camaro team with your honest, accurate reporting. By the way, I will personally verify that you left with 'Perma-grin' !! Al O.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:13 PM   #156
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:15 PM   #157
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Joe has been a moderator on this site since, I believe, its inception (or shortly after its inception)

Because this is one of the largest enthusiast sites out there for ANY car - it was only natural that we select someone from this site to attend the VIR event.

Joe has always amazed me in that his maturity far exceeds his age. He's intelligent, trustworthy, level-headed, and he's demonstrated thru his actions that he's deserving to have such an opportunity. (not saying by any means that others are not deserving...)

I think that simply reading his exceptional reporting of his experiences answers the question.
Why can't some Journalists write this well? That's not a slam at anyone - but when was the last time you read an article that felt like you were actually in the car with the driver?? Myself? I can't recall......

And for what it's worth? I'd be proud to have Joe as a son. (I'd say "brother" but I'm ancient and he's a young man in his 20s....) Further, I'm proud to call him "Friend" --

(.....and I had nothing to do with him being chosen......I know too many people due to my many years of travelling to Camaro/Firebird shows - thus the team picked the attendees...)
Thanks for the feedback FBodFather, I was literally at the edge of my seat reading his reviews, heart racing throughout. Joe is very exceptional with his writing. I look very much forward to hearing more about this car, and hopefully making it my first Camaro!! I've only owned one other car(300zx) which was really fun, but my heart has always been with american muscle and honestly no other car stirs my soul like the Camaro !
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:16 PM   #158
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Wow! This review is not only awesome, it is extremely credible because it comes from one of "US" and not from a journalist that might be jaded. Thanks Dragoneye for the good write up. My next challenge is figuring out how I sneak this one past the wife and order a ZL1! Do you think she will notice that Orange Krate has an LSA and a voice change? Hmmm. I am seriously going to have to mull this over.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:16 PM   #159
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For example...remember that little "ZL1" metal piece on the shifter? Even though it looked amazing - it was removed because they discovered the corners would dig into a driver's hand occasionally...and they couldn't allow that on a Camaro of this caliber.
Well there You go...I've been wondering what happened to that all along! - its a shame though because I really liked that ZL1 logo on the shifter

You answered my other question too about the fog light color - that will be one thing I have to change.

Well that, and adding a pinstripe to the wheels, plus getting the Camaro text on the wheels in IOM...but other than that nothing...maybe
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:17 PM   #160
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Great to have you part of our press review, Joe. You and Chris have provided a great deal of help to the Camaro team with your honest, accurate reporting. By the way, I will personally verify that you left with 'Perma-grin' !! Al O.
Al!! Nice to see you post!

I wanted to reiterate how thankful I am to have been part of this - you guys were all great!

And the car was PHENOMINAL - you all have certainly outdone yourself, and that's what caused the perma-grin!

Hope to see you again soon, perhaps at C5Fest!
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:18 PM   #161
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Great to have you part of our press review, Joe. You and Chris have provided a great deal of help to the Camaro team with your honest, accurate reporting. By the way, I will personally verify that you left with 'Perma-grin' !! Al O.

Can't wait for mine!

Great job...
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Just when Joe thought his Camaro highlight was the ZL1 at VIR two of the people he respects most say about him.

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Joe has been a moderator on this site since, I believe, its inception (or shortly after its inception)

Because this is one of the largest enthusiast sites out there for ANY car - it was only natural that we select someone from this site to attend the VIR event.

Joe has always amazed me in that his maturity far exceeds his age. He's intelligent, trustworthy, level-headed, and he's demonstrated thru his actions that he's deserving to have such an opportunity. (not saying by any means that others are not deserving...)

I think that simply reading his exceptional reporting of his experiences answers the question.
Why can't some Journalists write this well? That's not a slam at anyone - but when was the last time you read an article that felt like you were actually in the car with the driver?? Myself? I can't recall......

And for what it's worth? I'd be proud to have Joe as a son. (I'd say "brother" but I'm ancient and he's a young man in his 20s....) Further, I'm proud to call him "Friend" --

(.....and I had nothing to do with him being chosen......I know too many people due to my many years of travelling to Camaro/Firebird shows - thus the team picked the attendees...)
Joe,

Which is more exciting driving a ZL1 at VIR or reading what Mr. O and Mr. S have to say about you?














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Old 03-01-2012, 11:26 PM   #163
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Dragoneye...I have to agree... This is one of the best written articles ever...I felt like I was in the car with you...lf only wish my budget would allow me to own a ZL1..Doing good to order a 2LT/RS, but thanks for the ride.
I can't see any journalist that could have done a better job!!

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Old 03-01-2012, 11:28 PM   #164
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Just when Joe thought his Camaro highlight was the ZL1 at VIR two of the people he respects most say about him.

Joe,

Which is more exciting driving a ZL1 at VIR or reading what Mr. O and Mr. S have to say about you?

I plead the 5th (except to say I think the world of those two)...this thread is about the ZL1.



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Dragoneye...I have to agree... This is one of the best written articles ever...I felt like I was in the car with you...lf only wish my budget would allow me to own a ZL1..Doing good to order a 2LT/RS, but thanks for the ride.
I can't see any journalist that could have done a better job!!

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Wait, Aloppen, as in Al Oppenheiser, chief engineer of the Camaro, posts here?
Wow, I'm extremely impressed by the Camaro Team,Community, and this Website. You don't see that on the Ford side...
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Wait, Aloppen, as in Al Oppenheiser, chief engineer of the Camaro, posts here?
Wow, I'm extremely impressed by the Camaro Team,Community, and this Website. You don't see that on the Ford side...
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Great to have you part of our press review, Joe. You and Chris have provided a great deal of help to the Camaro team with your honest, accurate reporting. By the way, I will personally verify that you left with 'Perma-grin' !! Al O.
Thanks Al for giving one of our own a once in a life time chance.

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I'm completely blown away. I've grown up with friends that had Mustangs, and my father who always had Ford F150 trucks(but as I recall...always mentioned how smoothe those Silverado's and their suspensions were...) but the more I read and hear how involved and how much passion is there, and how much they seem to really care about what the enthusiasts feel and have to say, the more I am won over. I think Chevy just earned a life time fan.

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Thanks for sharing your experience in such an informative and easy to read manner. I truly enjoyed it. Like you, I am very much looking forward to the arrival of my ZL1. It is going to be an amazing car to own.

To the Camaro team. Thank you for allowing this C5 community to share in this experience. It appears you chose the right guy. Also, thanks for producing this amazing Camaro. It is a good time to be an enthusiast of American car company muscle. I love it!
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