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Old 03-01-2012, 12:30 PM   #101
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:46 PM   #102
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What can I say. That is just flat-out awesome! The only thing I think they should have done is put the manual mode shifting on the console. My new Cruze has this feature. Just pull the stick over and you can shift up or down. If the Camaro had that, it would almost want me to get an auto with the autostick. Well, probably not, but it sure is damn nice. Would have been SWEET on this ZL1.
My G8 has the manual mode on the console and I wish it had the paddles. The idea is your hands should already be on the steering wheel. Just not sure it's better with them on the column so you always know where the paddles are or on the wheel so they somewhat move with your hands.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:51 PM   #103
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Wow! Great write up! I know you can't wait to get yours! I was suprised to see some 45th's in some of the pics, what were they there for?
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #104
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gotta love those other renderings...I wonder if there will be changes using the renderings as ideas or was it used to make the current ZL1?
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:19 PM   #105
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What can I say. That is just flat-out awesome! The only thing I think they should have done is put the manual mode shifting on the console. My new Cruze has this feature. Just pull the stick over and you can shift up or down. If the Camaro had that, it would almost want me to get an auto with the autostick. Well, probably not, but it sure is damn nice. Would have been SWEET on this ZL1.
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My G8 has the manual mode on the console and I wish it had the paddles. The idea is your hands should already be on the steering wheel. Just not sure it's better with them on the column so you always know where the paddles are or on the wheel so they somewhat move with your hands.
I had a G8 GT before the Camaro. Both the slap shift and the paddle shifts have there positives and negatives.

Paddles you dont have to take your hand off the wheel. However I have noticed that with the camaro and the tap shift with street driving and making turns. If you are in manual mode you will have to go through the whole turn in 1st as its hard to find where the paddles go. You make more then a half turn of the wheel to turn a corner.

the paddle shifting of the camaro is more responsive. Dont know if it has to do with the paddles or what.

At least in the G8 if someone saw you driving manual mode you could somewhat confuse them and have them think its a stick because you move your hand down.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:37 PM   #106
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Joe, I gave you a hard time for not posting sooner, primarily because I was incredibly jealous of your wonderful opportunity to drive the ZL1 and at a world renowned race track to boot. So please forgive my impatience. And Jealousy.

I have read a lot of articles about cars in my many years and yours ranks among the best. The more that a writer can take a reader and put them in the middle of the story, the better the story and the writer. You did just that. You put everyone of us in the car with you. We felt what you felt through your words. We felt the rumble of the exhaust note beneath us and the exhilaration of the G forces through the turns. We have all been chomping at the bit to receive our ZL1's and living vicariously through your experiences with the Z are calming. But my pride of owning this car was not quelled at all.

Your pictures were great as well and yes I stole a bunch of them for my iPhoto ZL1 Collection. Very well written and worth the wait, but I am still jealous.

A few questions:
What are your feelings about the suede steering wheel and shifter?

Having spent time with both the auto and stick, which would you prefer?

How easy or hard will it be to remove the belly pan to change the oil?

What changes would you make in the ZL1 if you could?

Can I take your place the next time the opportunity arises?

Thanks again for everything that you do for Camaro5, but I am still jealous.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #107
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all is well - off to Cleveland on Friday - then 'off' (so to speak) for two weeks!


I love 'seeing' the ZL1 thru Joe's eyes..........

This truly is a time for all Camaro enthusiasts to celebrate!
Fbodfather, take car of yourself and we will see you soon.
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #108
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Dang is it just me or does the belly pan have to be removed to change the oil ?
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:18 PM   #109
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Great pictures and story Looks like your really enjoyed your time with the ZL1's . Hopefully # 214 will be tearing up the streets of Western NY in no time at all .

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Old 03-01-2012, 02:47 PM   #110
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A very honest and well-written observation. As I was reading this, I kept thinking back to articles I've read about such cars as the Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari 458 Italia and even the Nissan GT-R. All the technical expertise and engineering marvels that produce a $100,000, $300,000, or $1.3M car. GM has built capabilities into this car that we never dreamed would be available to us at $55,000!

What possibly could be next???
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:50 PM   #111
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Awesome write up!!!!!


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Old 03-01-2012, 02:55 PM   #112
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Awesome. Just getting ready to order mine
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:05 PM   #113
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Nice writeup and pics. Wondering if you have a pic of engine without cover on it?
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:11 PM   #114
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:21 PM   #115
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Awesome job man great write up!!
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:26 PM   #116
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As everyone has said great job. What I liked the most is you telling you level of driving exp. I'm sure most of the buyers of this car are not race car drivers. You really showed what this car will be like for the avg. driver. I just love the black on black and so glad I ordered it, but would be happy with whatever color I would have ordered.
Thanks again for the awesome story
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:30 PM   #117
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I nominate this for thread of the year!



Unless my Z/2...... Nahhhh I will leave that out of this thread.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:48 PM   #118
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I nominate this for thread of the year also !
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:58 PM   #119
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I nominate this for thread of the year also !


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..........just as soon as I send one of these:





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Sorry to be so late to the thread, but work has kept me pretty busy. Dragoneye has done himself and Camaro5 proud. Well done sir. Very well done!
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:23 PM   #121
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:42 PM   #122
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That review was better than any of the 10+ reviews I've read from professional journalists. Well done. The level of detail you gave was extraordinary. I can't believe (well, maybe I can) that all the magazine writers skipped over so much of it.

I only wish I could afford one.
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:12 PM   #123
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WOW!

Dragoneye,

Thank you for that AWESOME review! I've always been a fan of muscle cars, and I grew up with more of a Ford Influence(No hate) but have been beyond in love with the Gen5 Camaro as soon as I saw the first drawings and have totally jumped in with both feet into the Dark Side . Not to mention, the passion and love that the Camaro Team and this community have is truly moving and confidence inspiring. The ZL1 is a BEAST of a car, but more so, it is an incredible FULL car, not bits and pieces from the bin. I hope to save up and purchase a ZL1 in a year or two's time God willing. So congratulations to all who are getting theirs! I will be hanging on your every word and picture .

On a side note, what is it you and FBodFather do to gain such access? And uh, how can I join team Camaro? :P geez.

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Old 03-01-2012, 05:46 PM   #124
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Had me drooling.....

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I nominate this for thread of the year!



Unless my Z/2...... Nahhhh I will leave that out of this thread.
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