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Old 03-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #1
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Another header question

I will be installing stainless works headers with no cats. My question is
Would it be ok to drive from my house to the shop that is tuning it? Since more than likly it will throw a cel

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Old 03-01-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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I will do doing my own header install very soon and had the same question for my shop who is doing my tuning. The said it would be fine. Someone else may want to chime in on that though because I would not take it as fact.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:25 PM   #3
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the CEL is a no issue as the rear 02's are diagnostic only. as for weatehr it is save you just don't want to be lean. deffinatly don't get on it if you are worried at all. damage usually occurs under load.

could always install a wideband 02. then you will know if you are ever running lean.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:25 PM   #4
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You might make it, if it's close enough. As long as it's not too far, you might be safe, so long as you take it really easy. That's how it used to be on the older PCMs, but honestly, I haven't kept up with the newer PCM much; I have some catching up to do. I'm sure GM's programmed it to run rich, so as not to over-heat the cats', and I imagine opening up the exhaust is going to lean-out the AFR some, but I don't know if the PCM will command enough fuel, or it will compansate enough, but so long as it's a local shop, I'm pretty sure you'd be fine.

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Old 03-01-2012, 04:14 PM   #5
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I was going to start a new thread but will comment here. I talked to a local exhaust shop today on a price for muffler delete, new exhaust, and headers. He gave good prices and when I asked him about if the car needed tuned after the header install he absolutely not, that these cars reprogram themselves. Now hearing all the talk on here, its confusing when you hear two different things on alot of upgrades. He said hes done many of the new camaros. I'll post this in any thread if it would help, didn't mean to hi jack your thread, but thought this might be of light!SS
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:24 PM   #6
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You should have no problem running headers without a tune for a little bit. To say the computer programs itself is not true. There are two tunes in the computer of a SS. One is for high octane one is for low octane. It will not adjust the tune for headers.

If you are going with shortie headers you may not throw a code and you may not need to be tuned. but with long tubes you really should tune soon.
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:34 PM   #7
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so doing the 5-20 fuse pull doesn't do the octane setting. I always run 93, and always will. So the high octane fuel tune would be needed.?
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You will be fine.

Can 1 person here answer why your putting headers on this car?


ADM needs to teach a class...Hmmmm


BTW- Careful what headers you buy,they may not fit...there are new problem areas the header manufacturers may not know about.We will be working in the future as we did in the beginning of the camaro 5th gen to see to it they get it right.
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You will be fine.

Can 1 person here answer why your putting headers on this car?


ADM needs to teach a class...Hmmmm


BTW- Careful what headers you buy,they may not fit...there are new problem areas the header manufacturers may not know about.We will be working in the future as we did in the beginning of the camaro 5th gen to see to it they get it right.
Lower pan? Tranny and or diff' cooling lines? Power steering (or lack there, so-to-speak) clearance? You mentioned different AC routing, too - no? I'm wondering if those shorties from ARH will work... That's the way I think I'm going to end up goin
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You will be fine.

Can 1 person here answer why your putting headers on this car?


ADM needs to teach a class...Hmmmm


BTW- Careful what headers you buy,they may not fit...there are new problem areas the header manufacturers may not know about.We will be working in the future as we did in the beginning of the camaro 5th gen to see to it they get it right.
Uhhh, I wondered the same thing, but alls I could guess is the 20-50 hp you gain plus sound, am I wrong or are most of new owners missing something? I don't understand why people replace a whole perfectly new exhaust system either(minus mufflers). I'am confused as hell now. Thought they were the biggest bang for the buck.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:49 PM   #11
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Uhhh, I wondered the same thing, but alls I could guess is the 20-50 hp you gain plus sound, am I wrong or are most of new owners missing something? I don't understand why people replace a whole perfectly new exhaust system either(minus mufflers). I'am confused as hell now. Thought they were the biggest bang for the buck.
Headers on a supercharged car WILL NOT NET YOU HP without many more mods.

Headers on a naturally aspirated car completely different story.

I have been there countless times,If you dont believe me call the engineering department at LPE.

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Call me and I will explain.

Header manufacturers(some very close friends of mine) will advertise just to sell their products...Make them guarantee gains in writing!

Now that we have that out of the way:

Modify(Incrase) the boost=Gain Hp and torque
Gain HP and torque=Need to tune
Need to tune = Voided Warranty(Most cases)
Voided Warranty= Find a great shop that will stand behind their work.

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2012 is going to be a great year for the new ZL1 and 2013 will only be better,Im looking forward to being there for any questions or comments that need an honest answer.

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I'll be done with this thread after this. I dont remember seeing anything about a supercharged car on this thread. 100's of camaro owners on this site install headers on there camaros without being sc for some reason. We got off the main topic here. Oh, never said I didn't believe ya, the questions being asked and your answers you are giving are not coinsiding with one another. The question was, if headers are installed on a stock LS3, does the engine need tuned?
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I'll be done with this thread after this. I dont remember seeing anything about a supercharged car on this thread. 100's of camaro owners on this site install headers on there camaros without being sc for some reason. We got off the main topic here. Oh, never said I didn't believe ya, the questions being asked and your answers you are giving are not coinsiding with one another. The question was, if headers are installed on a stock LS3, does the engine need tuned?

Your in the ZL1(Has a supercharger on it) section with ths post.Sorry never saw your putting headers on an LS3 .
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I will be installing stainless works headers with no cats. My question is
Would it be ok to drive from my house to the shop that is tuning it? Since more than likly it will throw a cel

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