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Old 03-12-2012, 10:02 PM   #729
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Afraid to leave the car to the elements? I would assume a few weeks of "industrial area" snow (followed by a claybar/sealant/wax) is far less detrimental than your first 65 mph cruise down an interstate with a dump truck sand blasting you from a few hundred meters away.

They're cars (albeit brand new 55k+ ones) so they'll clean up well.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:08 PM   #730
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So what I want to know is whether there is a federally recognized medical condition which will qualify me for some sort of special designation for the illness now affecting me........ZL1-itis. Symptoms include maniacal checking the GM tracking site looking for any change in status, signing on to camaro5.com every 4-6 hours for any shred of information from the GM guys, google searching to see what new videos photos and articles have been released and even worse checking auto parts sites for the best car paint surface cleaner and care information for those of us who have extensions of ourselves sitting in a giant iced parking lot in Oshawa. With or without federal recognition of this ailment someone needs to produce a awareness program for those of us suffering. This is not VENTING. It's not NAGGING. oh no I have long driven past venting and nagging and am fully and firmly planted in the world of WHINING. Yes. I am whining.
I want car #36 to come home. Whah Whah Whah Whah. I'm a girl and I will cry if I want to.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:13 PM   #731
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Just curious,but what other 'seller' takes orders/money on such a large # of widgets that are NOT READY/QC'D for delivery? I guess this is business as usual in the 'NEW MODEL AUTOMOBILE WORLD'? Honestly don't know-probably why I bought a 2010 SS and let Ted 'juice it'. Hope it all works out for all those waiting. Just wondering,did other brands have similar delays of a new model release? Not bashing,but it seems like a very POOR way to build confidence in a brand/product. Just my .02
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:15 PM   #732
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I think this thread should be closed. It is no longer productive. We will hear something when GM has an update. Until then this is just non-sense. You folks that are going crazy need to go find a hobby for a month. Posting on here every night about hoping for this or that and being upset about this or that provides no value to this thread.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:27 PM   #733
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Afraid to leave the car to the elements? I would assume a few weeks of "industrial area" snow (followed by a claybar/sealant/wax) is far less detrimental than your first 65 mph cruise down an interstate with a dump truck sand blasting you from a few hundred meters away.

They're cars (albeit brand new 55k+ ones) so they'll clean up well.
Other than a light dusting the first day these hit the compound yard, it has been a snow free winter here.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:30 PM   #734
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We just need more information... now I do question Customer Service a bit... she said production doesnt start until spring 2012? then she said oh wait QC has been extended... Idk what to believe... but its all we got
Did just say that it would "be extended" or did she state the number of weeks that you reported in your post?
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:30 PM   #735
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Boy, its hard to believe that it would be another 4 to 6 six weeks from today. I think we really are going to have to just sit back and wait for the official word from GM. Six weeks from today would push the 2012s right up against the 2013s.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:31 PM   #736
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Boy, its hard to believe that it would be another 4 to 6 six weeks from today. I think we really are going to have to just sit back and wait for the official word from GM. Six weeks from today would push the 2012s right up against the 2013s.
this post made me laugh hard lol
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:32 PM   #737
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Did just say that it would "be extended" or did she state the number of weeks that you reported in your post?
She said that orginally it was 6-8 weeks QC... but what she said now its 6-12 week... it extended 4 more weeks than expected... The cars have been sitting out there for almost 8 weeks today
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:34 PM   #738
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They did the same with the IPad v1, I bought and paid for one a month before they were released through the Apple Store.
Ahhhh-I was actually refering to automobile mfg's,but that's OK I guess 4 to 800 dollars is close to 60+ grand. Anyway,like I said I hope GM gets it all worked out and everyone's car is delivered-if it's as billed it will be one hell of a ride! And while GM may not have 'banked' any money they are CERTAINLY affecting some 'purchasers' added costs. For those that want this thread closed 'change the channel'! There are real people with reals concerns whether you deem them valid or not. As they say 'misery loves company'. Find another thread-unless of course the mouse you put a deposit on was not delivered on time and you can't click elsewhere. I know-I'll stay on the sidelines and just read the posts!
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #739
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If a part has to be modified then 4 - 6 weeks is about right for retooling, first offs, testing and then filling the pipeline again. The new car line would start up again and those already built would be reworked. I can fully understand someone with a car already built being pissed that their car is sitting outside for weeks or months in the elements (and bird crap)! l also think that anyone with a car on order has a right to express their feeling about the situation. Most of those telling them to relax and take it in stride don't even have a car on order right now...I really don't think it's fair that you tell them how to feel when you aren't in their shoes. If you don't like reading this thread and their comments, you don't have to read them you know

As for me, I'm glad GM is fixing the problem before they ship the cars as that is the only prudent thing to do. However, it may mean that I don't get my order pulled for 2012. That's OK and I'll still get a ZL1, but I will get my deposit back and wait until this time next year to pick one up. In my climate, it makes no sense to get a car at the end of the suimmer as pricing is better in the winter and I won't have $60K tied up just sitting in the garage! I do hope GM gives us an idea of how long this will take soon so those who want to look at alternative arrangements can do so before the season is too far gone.
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She said that orginally it was 6-8 weeks QC... but what she said now its 6-12 week... it extended 4 more weeks than expected... The cars have been sitting out there for almost 8 weeks today
4-6 weeks? that blows dogs for quarters!
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If a part has to be modified then 4 - 6 weeks is about right for retooling, first offs, testing and then filling the pipeline again. The new car line would start up again and those already built would be reworked. I can fully understand someone with a car already built being pissed that their car is sitting outside for weeks or months in the elements (and bird crap)! l also think that anyone with a car on order has a right to express their feeling about the situation. Most of those telling them to relax and take it in stride don't even have a car on order right now...I really don't think it's fair that you tell them how to feel when you aren't in their shoes. If you don't like reading this thread and their comments, you don't have to read them you know

As for me, I'm glad GM is fixing the problem before they ship the cars as that is the only prudent thing to do. However, it may mean that I don't get my order pulled for 2012. That's OK and I'll still get a ZL1, but I will get my deposit back and wait until this time next year to pick one up. In my climate, it makes no sense to get a car at the end of the suimmer as pricing is better in the winter and I won't have $60K tied up just sitting in the garage! I do hope GM gives us an idea of time soon so those who want to look at alternative arrangement can do so before the season is too far gone.
lol @ bird crap! I seen that in one of the photos at the plant! lol good post and I respect what you say and how you feel I have since day one been about you guys... I may not stick up for GM all the time but I do for you the customer because Im there with ya! I want everyone's cars to be in tip-top shape and it better being this pricey! But GM you gotta meet us half way... we know with your commercials you love to "brag" about us their customer... well were here GM if your here for us
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:46 PM   #742
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I to understand people with cars sitting outside, and people with deposits on 12s (that may not be built) being concerned. If the 4 to 6 weeks is correct, what is the point of a 2012 model? GM might as well, bump the HP up and release the car as a 2013 with the recaro seats everyone wants.
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