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Old 03-16-2012, 11:58 AM   #970
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Let people vent, this is like Christmas supposed to be tomorrow then you tell your kids its postponed indefintely.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:59 AM   #971
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Let people vent, this is like Christmas supposed to be tomorrow then you tell your kids its postponed indefintely.
The best analogy.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:59 AM   #972
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Are you sugesting people shouldnt be pissed if they bought a new car with problems? I'm agreeing with GM's decision, they need to make it right before they ship thats a no brainer. What I'm saying is if we are atill in this spot 3 or 4 weeks from now, GM should offer some sort of incentive. We are getting close to the 2013 model year. Dont know why you jumped on me so quick, that was my 1st post. GM isnt going to give you a free car for defending them.
Maybe GM should just not give any information until the cars are on transports to dealers. No one is entitled to anything but a fair chance. The incentive has been information into the best CAMARO they've produced. These problems could be eliminated altogether. Your first post is the blame GM for trying to deliver a quality product that owners are going to be proud to own.

I defend CAMARO and GM because I know what they're is always in the best interest of the consumer. I might not like or understand what they do all the time but that doesn't mean I'm going to bash them because they want give us what we're paying for.

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Old 03-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #973
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Once ordering opens up and orders are accepted, it is an order not a pre-order.

This may be trivial, but I see it this way anyway..
Regardless of what one calls it, one should understand that the "order" has been placed before vehicles have passed initial QC and before vehicles have been released for delivery to dealerships, and that when placing such an "order" with regard to a new vehicle model or trim level one assumes a relatively high probability of certain risks including the possibility of having one's order delayed.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:12 PM   #974
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Wiki's right.....only a handful of Wendy and Rob Whiner's with nothing to contribute other than rediculous complaints and incredible babble are on this board anymore, many people who used to post you don't hear from and are likely on the sidelines because of it I surmise...this too shall pass...eventually.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:22 PM   #975
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Geese I need to order some more chill pills again for this thread.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:25 PM   #976
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Yes, unfortunately, it appears as if a large portion of the posts in the ZL1 section these days are either whining or incessant prattling by Ford interlopers.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:27 PM   #977
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Even louder is all the posting that many of us are NOT making because we tire of that.
It will all be good once the cars start arriving. I intend to sit back and read until then.

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Old 03-16-2012, 12:31 PM   #978
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Yes, unfortunately, it appears as if a large portion of the posts in the ZL1 section these days are either whining or incessant prattling by Ford interlopers.
Well of course we'll prattle, it's like the older sibling picking on the younger child for coming along and getting all the attention. Has been that way since the upstart Camaro joined the ponycar family in '67.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:33 PM   #979
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My post did come off as being a bit of a name calling d!ck.... I'm just getting really bored with all the mess going on here lately.. It's fine to vent and complain on things.. I do on other sites about stuff... But.... Some of it's getting over a line and it's pushing away other people that do provide very good technical information / experience, etc.

Just wish the site as a whole could tone it down a bit on many fronts.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:38 PM   #980
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I have to agree that I don't like the wait but I will receive the car I wanted and not a problem. The last thing I want is to have to take it back to the dealer because something is wrong. We would never live it down with our blue oval friends. I am sure GM is thinking the same thing. A little patients people. The car wasn't promised to my knowledge on any specific date.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:43 PM   #981
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Dang! if they wait much longer, the 2013 650hp Stangs will be out!
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:49 PM   #982
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OK...anyone else feel this thread has runs its course?
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:50 PM   #983
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:51 PM   #984
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I'd like to say a few cuss word and belittle some people first.
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Problem is there is nothing else to talk about on here... Chevy isnt giving us anything bc the cars were supposed to be out already
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:05 PM   #986
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Here we go again with the 2013 stang again. Just because you can order the stang doesn't mean you will get it faster than the ZL1. We ordered the ZL1 back in November so there you go.
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