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Old 03-07-2012, 05:14 PM   #26
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And just think - if those don't work out for the car you can always use them in the house to replace a faulty sewer line clean out!


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That's what I was thinkin

It does look like that. LMAO

That, of course, was a joke.

I might be ordering the noweeds. It's the best set-up there is. And the easiest to install.

Just costly. But I've talked to noweeds and they asked what my current exhaust is, got the Borla part numbers and confirmed that it will bolt in. So I'm good there.

Problem is Jegs sent another kind of cutout that WILL fit. I wasn't able to intercept my mailed request. So tomorrow I'll have a regular set of cutouts.

Gonna be hard not to go down and install them. lol

Noweeds take a few weeks to ship.
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They're loudest right behind the headers and you get the best flow (so best hp gain).

But, I've told you this about 300 times already... Spike! Your turn.
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They're loudest right behind the headers and you get the best flow (so best hp gain).

But, I've told you this about 300 times already... Spike! Your turn.
OH, if I were to install the regular ones tomorrow (but I will resist) I'd do them just like that. But..........
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haha, I haven't done it yet.

BUT, here's the one I've been watching.

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It does look like that. LMAO

That, of course, was a joke.

I might be ordering the noweeds. It's the best set-up there is. And the easiest to install.

Just costly. But I've talked to noweeds and they asked what my current exhaust is, got the Borla part numbers and confirmed that it will bolt in. So I'm good there.

Problem is Jegs sent another kind of cutout that WILL fit. I wasn't able to intercept my mailed request. So tomorrow I'll have a regular set of cutouts.

Gonna be hard not to go down and install them. lol

Noweeds take a few weeks to ship.
If you had have ordered them 3 weeks ago, they would have shipped today, someone else's did
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I'm gonna take wild guess.

YOU did.
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YOU did.
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Those guys sell a lot of those.

But, it looks like I'll miss out. With my other ones able to get here quicker I'll probably just do them.

3 weeks is way longer than I want to wait. I'd order them right now if they could ship. I just have a show I want to make next weekend.
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I'm going witha regular clamp type so I can put simple turndowns on them and so I can replace it with any type that I want.

Cept for the ones I just sent back.

Going with Jegs again. Figured I have the credit now I might as well use it.
you do remember when I told you about QTPs ability to just bolt the turndown to the cutout right?

Exhaust pipe//Y-pipe//Cutout motor//Turndown




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Just got the cheap Jegs type. Probably the same anyway. But if it doesn't last long I can just switch. It was just easier to exchange them than to wait for the refund process.

I just ordered these.

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those will hold up pretty well. they are a little heavy tho.

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They're loudest right behind the headers and you get the best flow (so best hp gain).

But, I've told you this about 300 times already... Spike! Your turn.
I stopped counting.

I'm going to start telling him to do completely outlandish stuff to his car... maybe then, he'll do what I tell him... oh wait....

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OH, if I were to install the regular ones tomorrow (but I will resist) I'd do them just like that. But..........
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haha, I haven't done it yet.

BUT, here's the one I've been watching.

so you want to giggle?

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Those guys sell a lot of those.

But, it looks like I'll miss out. With my other ones able to get here quicker I'll probably just do them.

3 weeks is way longer than I want to wait. I'd order them right now if they could ship. I just have a show I want to make next weekend.
DO IT!

wait... you usually do the opposite of what I tell you...

DON'T INSTALL THE ONES YOU HAVE!!!! BUY THE NOWEEDS!!!!!



SCREW IT, SEND THEM ALL BACK AND JUST TAKE THE HEADERS OFF COMPLETELY.
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you do remember when I told you about QTPs ability to just bolt the turndown to the cutout right?

Exhaust pipe//Y-pipe//Cutout motor//Turndown
Yup. The cutouts I have coming today do the same thing.


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DO IT!

wait... you usually do the opposite of what I tell you...
Problem is my collectors from the headers go back about 8 inches further than the ones that were on Emmas car. So the tranny brace is right where her cutout motors were. In order to get them where hers were I have to move the O2 sensor and cut into the header literally a quarter inch from where the collectors straighten out. And put the O2 bung on the 'Y' pipe.

Or, move the cutout to the S pipes. Which will be fine, not like I;m going to miss the 2 hp from it being a foot behind but might not be as pretty.

OR, go with the noweeds system.

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Yup. The cutouts I have coming today do the same thing.
good. use them


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Problem is my collectors from the headers go back about 8 inches further than the ones that were on Emmas car. So the tranny brace is right where her cutout motors were. In order to get them where hers were I have to move the O2 sensor and cut into the header literally a quarter inch from where the collectors straighten out. And put the O2 bung on the 'Y' pipe.
BS. see pictures and comments below for some options

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Or, move the cutout to the S pipes. Which will be fine, not like I;m going to miss the 2 hp from it being a foot behind but might not be as pretty.
again... how bout moving the S pipes back slightly to allow you more room and that way you wont have to move the o2 sensor.

You should have a straight section of pipe (may be under the driveshaft, but you could notch out an extra 4" out of there and cut behind the o2 sensor, then slide the whole assembly back in order to fit the ypipe and cutout and still clear the trans brace and floor.

does anyone make a smaller trans brace btw?
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See there is the problem I have.

I trust NO ONE down here to do all of that. Plus, even if I did let someone down here cut all of that out it would end up costing me as much as if I just did the noweeds.

I'm going to go to the muffler shop. Best one they have here as told to me by just about everyone here. And they seem to know their stuff but if I'm going to end up paying them 300.00 I might as well just spend the extra and go noweeds.

If for some reason noweeds doesn't fit then I send it back and go from there. But before I let one of these guys slice up my whole exhaust I should maybe be patient just to see.

Jegs let's you send stuff back up to a year for a full refund. Might be in my best interest to wait.

Answer me this..... If the noweeds fits and works, don't you think it's the perfect way to go?
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http://www.streetfire.net/video/jds-...ro_2010154.htm

DMH cutouts shown about 40-45 secs into video. That's on a Borla S exhaust.

First run - DMH cutouts closed
Second run - cutouts open

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DMH cutouts shown about 40-45 secs into video. That's on a Borla S exhaust.

First run - DMH cutouts closed
Second run - cutouts open
That appeared to be an LS3. If so then we know it would work. But the auto tranny with my longer headers makes it a space problem.

Do you have any pics of the cutouts on it?
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See there is the problem I have.

I trust NO ONE down here to do all of that. Plus, even if I did let someone down here cut all of that out it would end up costing me as much as if I just did the noweeds.

I'm going to go to the muffler shop. Best one they have here as told to me by just about everyone here. And they seem to know their stuff but if I'm going to end up paying them 300.00 I might as well just spend the extra and go noweeds.

If for some reason noweeds doesn't fit then I send it back and go from there. But before I let one of these guys slice up my whole exhaust I should maybe be patient just to see.

Jegs let's you send stuff back up to a year for a full refund. Might be in my best interest to wait.

Answer me this..... If the noweeds fits and works, don't you think it's the perfect way to go?
you do realize that I'm telling you to install them yourself right?

and if the Jegs cutouts fit and work and you have them in your possession now and don't have to wait 3 weeks to get them... don't you think its the perfect way to go?
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Yeah, its an LS3. The best pic of the cutouts is on the streetfire link. At 45 secs into the video it shows a good view of the cutouts and how they are installed.
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Problem is my collectors from the headers go back about 8 inches further than the ones that were on Emmas car.:
I'm not sure where you got that idea...

I had LTs on the car when the cutouts were on it.

The pic I shared with you is NOT my car. It's Ben's car with my old exhaust (with cutouts) on it.

The cutouts just replace the section with the cats.

BTW, I can almost guarantee those Noweeds will "fit" your car, but your lowered car with auto tranny will mean they'll give you clearance issues. I think I'm done beating this into the ground. Does Bonnie ever refer to you as being stubborn? Just curious. I really hope they Noweeds work for you.
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you do realize that I'm telling you to install them yourself right?

and if the Jegs cutouts fit and work and you have them in your possession now and don't have to wait 3 weeks to get them... don't you think its the perfect way to go?
I don't have a welder?

Or the ability to weld for that matter.

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Ok. I'll check it out. I only wathced the begging and end. LOL

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I'm not sure where you got that idea...

I had LTs on the car when the cutouts were on it.

The pic I shared with you is NOT my car. It's Ben's car with my old exhaust (with cutouts) on it.

The cutouts just replace the section with the cats.

BTW, I can almost guarantee those Noweeds will "fit" your car, but your lowered car with auto tranny will mean they'll give you clearance issues. I think I'm done beating this into the ground. Does Bonnie ever refer to you as being stubborn? Just curious. I really hope they Noweeds work for you.
Right. It came off your car. Borla headers go all the way back where cat's would be. So Borla headers collectors go back much further than other headers. Because I know that system was on your car, then I kow you couldn't have had Borla headers. And so I know my collectors came back much further than yours did.

Basically, Borla headers take up the space where the cats would be by sending the primaries back further. And so the collector is back about 8 inches further.
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Borla headers don't work with high-flow cats? Interesting. I didn't realize that.
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Or the ability to weld for that matter.
Who said anything about welding? you have exhaust clamps do you not? the way I'm describing would be completely clamped on for easy removability on your part if need be. if you wanted to get it welded up later down the road... go for it.


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Right. It came off your car. Borla headers go all the way back where cat's would be. So Borla headers collectors go back much further than other headers. Because I know that system was on your car, then I kow you couldn't have had Borla headers. And so I know my collectors came back much further than yours did.

Basically, Borla headers take up the space where the cats would be by sending the primaries back further. And so the collector is back about 8 inches further.
so cut off more from the headers...

You don't have a bolt up flange that you have to worry about right? so just trim till it fits. just stay away from the o2 sensor. and like I said in the other thread (I should merge these two at this point), if need be, cut another section out of the straight pipe in the driveshaft tunnel and scoot the whole system back another inch or so to give you extra room.
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Borla headers don't work with high-flow cats? Interesting. I didn't realize that.
Sure they do. But you won't be putting cut-outs right there if you use them. THe high flow cats would be right there where you had the cut-outs. You'd have to move the cut-outs back further.

Look at the pics. You can see how much further the Borla collectors are.

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Who said anything about welding? you have exhaust clamps do you not? the way I'm describing would be completely clamped on for easy removability on your part if need be. if you wanted to get it welded up later down the road... go for it.
Ther is no section on my exhaust that has room for a 'Y' diverter. Even the guy at the muffler shop said that. Literally there is no 10" section of that exhaust that doesn't bend. :(


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REALLY don't want to cut my headers. But we'll see.

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You don't have a bolt up flange that you have to worry about right? so just trim till it fits. just stay away from the o2 sensor. and like I said in the other thread (I should merge these two at this point), if need be, cut another section out of the straight pipe in the driveshaft tunnel and scoot the whole system back another inch or so to give you extra room.
As the system rises and falls in the center could become a pain to cut out sections. I'll have to look at it.
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Sure they do. But you won't be putting cut-outs right there if you use them. THe high flow cats would be right there where you had the cut-outs. You'd have to move the cut-outs back further.

Look at the pics. You can see how much further the Borla collectors are.
Umm... sorry to be a moron, but which pics? I thought LT headers were all the same length... I didn't realize Borla's headers were longer than Kooks. I thought they all made them the same length so that they'd all work with high-flow cats (or off road pipes) and catback exhaust.
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Ther is no section on my exhaust that has room for a 'Y' diverter. Even the guy at the muffler shop said that. Literally there is no 10" section of that exhaust that doesn't bend. :(
So make a 10" section. or shorten the cutout Y-pipe and the exhaust both to allow it to fit.

Going to get paint this weekend in J-Ville. LOL
REALLY don't want to cut my headers. But we'll see.
I'm not talking about chopping it off at the collector, I'm talking about an inch or two past the o2 sensor.


As the system rises and falls in the center could become a pain to cut out sections. I'll have to look at it.
nah. which catback do you have?

if you have the regular X-pipe version, you should be able to cut a few inches off the "S" pipes on the back side and shorten them up to allow more room.

if you have the ATAK version, you should be able to knock out a section of the straight pipes that run down the driveshaft tunnel.
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