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Old 03-08-2012, 09:08 PM   #76
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If the shoe, errrr diverters fit,.......... There is a picture on Noweeds website that is taken from the level of the rocker panel, (car is up on a lift) and you can't see the diverters.
And idea of the noweeds clearance from member AngelSpeedFreak


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Clearance looks pretty good.

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Ok.

So went to two shops. Both shops said no. Mainly because of the way my headers are bent at the ends and how far they come back. Pics below you can see them. But even if they weren't, the auto tranny leaves not enough room for how low my car sits. Which is non-negotiable. My car stays at it's current height.

We walked under the entire car and looked at every config possible using the current exhaust. One guy said he could get some pipe and build me a system that fit and flowed right but it would end up costing me big and he would not warranty it. He said he liked the noweeds system at that point.

One shop said forget it. They wouldn't even accept the responsibility of how tight it was. The other said they'll do it the way I tell them against their better judgement but as soon as I drive off it's mine.

Every config had them hanging too low or facing each other leaving little or no room for a turndown.

Back side of the S pipes like the QTP rectangle ones posted earlier in this thread are the ONLY option outside of noweeds. Showed them a pic of the rectangle QTP and how it was welded in to the side and he said maybe on a 3" exhaust but he wouldn't fool with it with mine. The one guy said being a right angle out he didn't like that idea anyway. Even cutting the X pipe he said they'd have to bend the pipes to get them to catch up at the new joints because the center X pipe section bends up and then back down in the middle.

My perfect storm of no dice is the type of headers the auto tranny and Borla exhaust is so bent up. Bottom line is both agreed that they'd have to redo too much on this exhaust.

Both shops suggested putting them in the rear by the mufflers.

So there you have it. Mobile Alabama.

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I could make them fit with no problem.


seriously. looking at those pics of your whole system... I could make it fit, and not rattle, and still have ground clearance, not cost you an arm and a leg, no welds (unless you wanted them), and clear the trans brace

also... you could have the option of mounting them right behind the S pipes... your 3rd and last pic shows the best view


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ummm... he doesnt have long tube headers tho...


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Clearance looks pretty good.


where was the camera situated in that shot? under the car? right under the rocker pnl? camera doesnt give you full perspective.
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I could make them fit with no problem.


seriously. looking at those pics of your whole system... I could make it fit, and not rattle, and still have ground clearance, not cost you an arm and a leg, no welds (unless you wanted them), and clear the trans brace

also... you could have the option of mounting them right behind the S pipes... your 3rd and last pic shows the best view
Cut-out motors ..... 400.00
Stainless diverters ..... 100.00
Gas to Gregs house ..... 300.00
Beer drank at Gregs house ..... 50.00

Ass whoopin' by Bonnie ..... Not worth the 100.00 saved.



For real, that would be all well and good but then there's that 28 hour drive.

Stopped by a shop called 'Custom Muffler' this morning. He said he'll do it.

For 800.00

Says he basically needs to redo the whole thing. The Borla is just too bent up for him to work with. He showed me what he was talking about. (I already knew) He said he'd have to bend the pipes that are there now to make it work and agreed with shortening up the X pipe but would have to bend the shortened section since it saw arched in the middle and it would be easier and better to put all new pipe in and blah blah blah.................. Basically said no on the current pipes and wants to make me a whole new set-up. But at a ridiculous cost.

Of course he bad mouthed Borla exhaust. Gibson this and Gibson that Gibson Gibson Gibson.
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Cut-out motors ..... 400.00
Stainless diverters ..... 100.00
Gas to Gregs house ..... 300.00
Beer drank at Gregs house ..... 50.00

Ass whoopin' by Bonnie ..... Not worth the 100.00 saved.



For real, that would be all well and good but then there's that 28 hour drive.

Stopped by a shop called 'Custom Muffler' this morning. He said he'll do it.

For 800.00

Says he basically needs to redo the whole thing. The Borla is just too bent up for him to work with. He showed me what he was talking about. (I already knew) He said he'd have to bend the pipes that are there now to make it work and agreed with shortening up the X pipe but would have to bend the shortened section since it saw arched in the middle and it would be easier and better to put all new pipe in and blah blah blah.................. Basically said no on the current pipes and wants to make me a whole new set-up. But at a ridiculous cost.

Of course he bad mouthed Borla exhaust. Gibson this and Gibson that Gibson Gibson Gibson.

first off... why did you need stainless diverters?

secondly, you already have the cutouts... and you were getting them anyway

thirdly... I'll do some photo editing of the pics and see what I can come up with for you to take a gander at later today

oh, and you and bonnie can take a trip to Charleston next weekend and meet me at the beach house and we can do it there. that way Bonnie gets something out of the whole trip...lol


and $800.00.... just for the install?
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first off... why did you need stainless diverters?

secondly, you already have the cutouts... and you were getting them anyway

thirdly... I'll do some photo editing of the pics and see what I can come up with for you to take a gander at later today


and $800.00.... just for the install?
1st I figured for no rust I guess.

2nd I was talking in conjunction with noweeds. I can send these back for 500.00 refund. 514.00 actually. lol

3rd, I'll check it out when you post. Remember, the center X pipe section is arched. So he said they'd have to bend the pipe or fugure something our to get it to meet right at the new joint. It would force the pipe way downward if we cut it and slid the X section back. He said maybe bend the pipe.
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PQ I must stop reading this - my head hurts!! And here I thought everything I get into gets really complicated fast! You beat me by a long shot - poor guy. Good luck and if it helps I now have to get my driveway curb cut down (I have no idea yet how much but at least 1k - I bet) so my new cutouts and HF cats stop scraping. Where does it stop?
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1st I figured for no rust I guess.

2nd I was talking in conjunction with noweeds. I can send these back for 500.00 refund. 514.00 actually. lol

3rd, I'll check it out when you post. Remember, the center X pipe section is arched. So he said they'd have to bend the pipe or fugure something our to get it to meet right at the new joint. It would force the pipe way downward if we cut it and slid the X section back. He said maybe bend the pipe.
I can understand no rust... but $100.00 is a bit pricey for that. I think I paid $50.00 for a pair of 3" stainless cutout ypipes...



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$500 refund... for which ones? the noweeds or the Jegs ones you have? (and is that including the $100 stainless y-pipe cost?)

I'll get to your pics here in a few min. got some stuff to clean up at work first.
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PQ I must stop reading this - my head hurts!! And here I thought everything I get into gets really complicated fast! You beat me by a long shot - poor guy. Good luck and if it helps I now have to get my driveway curb cut down (I have no idea yet how much but at least 1k - I bet) so my new cutouts and HF cats stop scraping. Where does it stop?
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$500 refund... for which ones? the noweeds or the Jegs ones you have? (and is that including the $100 stainless y-pipe cost?)

I'll get to your pics here in a few min. got some stuff to clean up at work first.
The stainless y pipes are 51.00 a piece on Jegs. And yes the 500.00 is for both pipes and the motors.
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The stainless y pipes are 51.00 a piece on Jegs. And yes the 500.00 is for both pipes and the motors.
I thought it was $400??

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So what's the verdict?
Been here in J-Ville the weekend. Haven't done anything with cutouts. Got them in my trunk. Might send them back to Jegs.

After that video of the flames throwing underneath I don't want to just slap these in. I'll figure it out later.
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After that video of the flames throwing underneath I don't want to just slap these in. I'll figure it out later.
whats wrong with flames? you could pull a FNF effect...lmao
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After that video of the flames throwing underneath I don't want to just slap these in. I'll figure it out later.
I have yet to see a flame from any camaro that has cutouts...
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does it have to be a 5th gen....
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You're not paying attention then. I've seen it on two cars now. And I haven't been looking for it. Go to the second pull at 0:43 into this vid. It happens more than you think. I have no doubt that there are people who don't even realize it.

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You're not paying attention then. I've seen it on two cars now. And I haven't been looking for it. Go to the second pull at 0:43 into this vid. It happens more than you think. I have no doubt that there are people who don't even realize it.

and?

all thats happening is excess fuel is being burned in the exhaust stream when coming off the gas hard. same thing is going on right now with your car. only difference is, all the fire is inside the exhaust.

Just think of it like an afterburner for your car...lmao

won't cause any serious damage unless you have the turndowns installed as turnups...
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all thats happening is excess fuel is being burned in the exhaust stream when coming off the gas hard. same thing is going on right now with your car. only difference is, all the fire is inside the exhaust.

Just think of it like an afterburner for your car...lmao

won't cause any serious damage unless you have the turndowns installed as turnups...
Right. I get that but if I let a hack shop do it I have to stand there and watch to make sure I have room for turndowns.

There are pics on here of installs where there is no turndowns. Kinda freaks me out a bit.
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Right. I get that but if I let a hack shop do it I have to stand there and watch to make sure I have room for turndowns.

There are pics on here of installs where there is no turndowns. Kinda freaks me out a bit.
Maybe its not enough but my DMH cutouts have a small turndown hood just above the butterfly valve. Plus where mine were installed some of the factory exahust heat shield is still intact above the cutouts. I also think you would only get a prolonged flame when you come off a heavy load situation like an in gear WOT run and you leave it in gear for the wind down - just like you see on the dyno run. Besides that would look really cool at night!
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Maybe its not enough but my DMH cutouts have a small turndown hood just above the butterfly valve. Plus where mine were installed some of the factory exahust heat shield is still intact above the cutouts. I also think you would only get a prolonged flame when you come off a heavy load situation like an in gear WOT run and you leave it in gear for the wind down - just like you see on the dyno run. Besides that would look really cool at night!
Agreed.

I just don't have the confidence in these shops. I've made up my mind. It will be just as easy and only a tad more money to just order the noweeds rather than drive to someone I believe can do it. And I can do it while my car is on jack stands waiting on my new wheels.
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There are pics on here of installs where there is no turndowns. Kinda freaks me out a bit.
meh... sissy.


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Agreed.

I just don't have the confidence in these shops. I've made up my mind. It will be just as easy and only a tad more money to just order the noweeds rather than drive to someone I believe can do it. And I can do it while my car is on jack stands waiting on my new wheels.
you could just pay someone to come to you...
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Read that link that Spike posted, it'll tell you everything you need to know.
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Nobody makes CamaroSpike happy. You just disgust him a little less than other people.
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But not all people were born awesome like you, Spike.
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