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Old 03-06-2012, 11:45 AM   #1
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Auto trans launch control

I've read that only the manual trans cars have launch control and the auto trans is actually a tenth quicker. How do you launch the auto trans car without launch control? What system enables the auto car to maintain enough traction to get a good launch, or is it just right foot modulation?
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:47 AM   #2
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I've read that only the manual trans cars have launch control and the auto trans is actually a tenth quicker. How do you launch the auto trans car without launch control? What system enables the auto car to maintain enough traction to get a good launch, or is it just right foot modulation?
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:05 PM   #3
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Hold brake and rev to rpm you want. Then let off brake and put right foot to the floor. Suspension mode 4 or 5? Maybe competitive mode on Traction control.
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Hold brake and rev to rpm you want. Then let off brake and put right foot to the floor. Suspension mode 4 or 5? Maybe competitive mode on Traction control.
WTF you talking about suspension mode 4 or 5?
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WTF you talking about suspension mode 4 or 5?
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WTF you talking about suspension mode 4 or 5?
The ZL1 has multiple suspension modes, #1 - #5. Similar to how the Camaro has a performance mode. Basically hitting the T/C will change the way the magnetic ride handles. #1 being for street driving and such and then #5 being for the auto x or the track.

This is covered in numerous threads in this section.
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But to answer the OPs question; no the automatic does not have launch control. You can either rev it while holding the brake or just floor it when the light turns green.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:46 PM   #8
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The ZL1 has multiple suspension modes, #1 - #5. Similar to how the Camaro has a performance mode. Basically hitting the T/C will change the way the magnetic ride handles. #1 being for street driving and such and then #5 being for the auto x or the track.

This is covered in numerous threads in this section.
It's easy for people to get confused about the different modes that the ZL1 has. There are the default TCS/StabiliTrack systems, which can be turned on and off, and there are the PTM Modes from 1 to 5, and then there are the Selective Ride Control modes, Tour and Sport, which can be selected at any time when PTM is not active. With PTM active the suspension setting (Selective Ride Control) is determined automatically by the PTM mode.
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It's easy for people to get confused about the different modes that the ZL1 has. There are the default TCS/StabiliTrack systems, which can be turned on and off, and there are the PTM Modes from 1 to 5, and then there are the Selective Ride Control modes, Tour and Sport, which can be selected at any time when PTM is not active. With PTM active the suspension setting (Selective Ride Control) is determined automatically by the PTM mode.
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Being that I don't have a ZL1 YET, and I'm new to this forum, I do have a question regarding these different modes and what they do...I though PTM was Pedal to Metal...sorry.

Does the owner's manual explain what all these modes are, or does one need to search the internet for it?

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It was my understanding there are 5 modes. With 1 & 2 being Tour and 3 - 5 being Sport. And with the Tour and Sport buttons being plus and minus for selecting the different modes.
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It was my understanding there are 5 modes. With 1 & 2 being Tour and 3 - 5 being Sport. And with the Tour and Sport buttons being plus and minus for selecting the different modes.
There are 5 PTM modes:

1 - Wet
2 - Dry
3 - Sport 1
4 - Sport 2
5 - Race

When in PTM Mode the - TOUR and + SPORT buttons do scroll up or down through the modes.

When not in PTM Mode there are the Selective Ride Control settings, Tour and Sport, that can be changed at any time.
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Being that I don't have a ZL1 YET, and I'm new to this forum, I do have a question regarding these different modes and what they do...I though PTM was Pedal to Metal...sorry.

Does the owner's manual explain what all these modes are, or does one need to search the internet for it?

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Old 03-06-2012, 01:15 PM   #14
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There are 5 PTM modes:

1 - Wet
2 - Dry
3 - Sport 1
4 - Sport 2
5 - Race

When in PTM Mode the - TOUR and + SPORT buttons do scroll up or down through the modes.

When not in PTM Mode there are the Selective Ride Control settings, Tour and Sport, that can be changed at any time.
So you can be in TOUR for mode 3?
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So you can be in TOUR for mode 3?
No. When in PTM Mode, the mode determines the Selective Ride Control settings. When not in PTM Mode, the Selective Ride Control setting can be changed from Tour to Sport and back at any time.

The Tour and Sport settings are available when not in PTM mode. When in PTM mode the modes available are Wet, Dry, Sport 1, Sport 2, and Race.
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:36 PM   #16
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But to answer the OPs question; no the automatic does not have launch control. You can either rev it while holding the brake or just floor it when the light turns green.
uhh, you mean when the third light turns yellow, right?
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Being that I don't have a ZL1 YET, and I'm new to this forum, I do have a question regarding these different modes and what they do...I though PTM was Pedal to Metal...sorry.

Does the owner's manual explain what all these modes are, or does one need to search the internet for it?

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PERF TRACTION 1 – WET /
ACTIVE HANDLING ON
. Intended for all driver skill levels.
. Wet or damp conditions
only — not intended for use in
heavy rain or standing water.
. StabiliTrak is on and engine
power is reduced based on
conditions.


PERF TRACTION 2 – DRY /
ACTIVE HANDLING ON
. For use by less experienced
drivers or while learning a new
track.
. Dry conditions only.
. StabiliTrak is on and engine
power is slightly reduced based
on conditions.


PERF TRACTION 3 –
SPORT 1 / ACTIVE
HANDLING ON
. For use by drivers who are
familiar with the track.
. Requires more driving skill than
mode 2.
. Dry conditions only.
. StabiliTrak is on and more
engine power is available than in
mode 2.


PERF TRACTION 4 –
SPORT 2 / ACTIVE
HANDLING OFF
. For use by drivers who are
familiar with the track.
. Requires more driving skill than
modes 2 or 3.
. Dry conditions only.
. StabiliTrak is off and available
engine power is available is the
same as mode 3.


PERF TRACTION 5 – RACE /
ACTIVE HANDLING OFF
. For use by drivers who are
familiar with the track.
. Requires more driving skill than
in other modes.
. Dry conditions only.
. StabiliTrak is off and available
engine power is available for
maximum cornering speed. for
Use mode 5 for most consistent
performance during drag strip use.
When the TCS/StabiliTrak button is
pressed again, the vehicle exits
PTM mode and the TCS and
StabiliTrak systems are on.
Use Mode 5 for the most consistent
performance during drag strip use.
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Old 03-06-2012, 04:48 PM   #18
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I think the auto is posted with a 10th of a second quicker 0-60mph time as the shifting on the tapshift with the new algorithm is slightly faster than the manual...the ZL1 has to shift to 2nd gear to hit 60mph so that hurts 0-60mph times. Some cars like the Viper, C6 Z06, and '13 GT500 can hit 60mph in 1st gear so they have better 0-60mph times than the Camaro.

But launch control is not on the auto transmission at all.
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The ZL1 has multiple suspension modes, #1 - #5. Similar to how the Camaro has a performance mode. Basically hitting the T/C will change the way the magnetic ride handles. #1 being for street driving and such and then #5 being for the auto x or the track.

This is covered in numerous threads in this section.
Lmao! Dude I just noticed this was in the ZL1 section. Fail by me. Oops.


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uhh, you mean when the third light turns yellow, right?
touche - someone has been to the track but yea you want to floor it when the 3rd yellow lights up
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touche - someone has been to the track but yea you want to floor it when the 3rd yellow lights up
I also like to floor it when the street light turns yellow
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You can put a transbrake in an automatic to help launch it along with a stall.
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So with no launch control, how does the auto keep from breaking loose and just roasting the tires when launching from a start?
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So with no launch control, how does the auto keep from breaking loose and just roasting the tires when launching from a start?
You have to learn to balance brakes with gas OR get a transbrake. A torque converter helps a lot too.

Drag racing an automatic is not as easy as some guys might like you to think. (no offense intended!)
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You have to learn to balance brakes with gas OR get a transbrake. A torque converter helps a lot too.

Drag racing an automatic is not as easy as some guys might like you to think. (no offense intended!)
I think it would be a lot harder with 580hp and no LC aid
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