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Old 03-06-2012, 09:00 PM   #1
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Fuse pull for the v6

So past couple days my car felt abnormally sluggish. I decided to try the fuse pull on the v6 (im tuned to run 93). I pulled the fuses and waited about 40 minutes and put them back in. Then my car ran the way it was supposed to. Any idea why I had to do this? I might have put 87 in but I am not 100% sure.
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:04 PM   #2
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interesting, becasue the fuse pull is a V8 thing and not a V6 thing and should not be required.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:18 AM   #3
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Agree...very strange. Hard to say what it was really.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:58 AM   #4
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interesting, becasue the fuse pull is a V8 thing and not a V6 thing and should not be required.
agreed... the V8 has separate fuel tables and the fuse pull was to clear out stuck low octane fuel tables... the V6 works very differently and doesn't have separate fuel tables...

That being said... not sure what actually was going on with OP' car...
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:01 AM   #5
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I have done the same exact thing but I unhooked the battery. It was running super super rich (black smoke and soot covered the back of the car) and a battery unhook fixed it. I'm on stock tune though.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:35 AM   #6
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interesting, becasue the fuse pull is a V8 thing and not a V6 thing and should not be required.
Not a V8 thing, all cars benefit from a fuse pull.
Just did mine yesterday went from 15 MPG city to 17 (cold weather).
For some reason this LLT V6 gets bogged down after a long winter and doesn't re-adjust properly. Maybe someone from GM could explain?
Standard protocol when installing an intake or making any component change
is to unhook the neg battery cable. Its written in all the manuals, allows the proper synchronization / learning of the new part.
In colder climates they change from winter formula fuel to less volatile summer blend.
I don't know why the LLT will not re-learn the summer fuel but this time of year I have to do a fuse pull to get my mileage back.
Going on a trip today and I'll post my mileage numbers later.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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yeah, not buying it. i did the fuse pull a long time ago, and didn't notice any changes. 2mpg difference? not enough to say it was changed due to fuse pull. lots of other factors could have caused that.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:02 AM   #8
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The only thing done by unhooking your battery was a fuel trim reset. You car relearned the STFTs and LTFTs. So while the fuse pull helps the V8 I don't see why let our screwy ECM relearn the fuel trims.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:13 AM   #9
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The only thing done by unhooking your battery was a fuel trim reset. You car relearned the STFTs and LTFTs. So while the fuse pull helps the V8 I don't see why let our screwy ECM relearn the fuel trims.
agreed... I think the main reason the companies want you to unhook the battery is so you do short anything out...
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:35 PM   #10
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Im gusessing "power of suggestion"... liley feels better becuase you expected it to feel better.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:10 AM   #11
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I just did this yesterday on my first long drive to the Beach after the fuse pull.
Rt 81 is a 45 - 50 MPH rural road.
You guys want to be hard headed then don't do it!
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:26 AM   #12
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When you fuse pull you are resetting the ecm, which mean you are resetting your fuel trim, throttle sensor, KR, etc..etc..

Resetting the ecm will always make your car feel alive at first but it ill come back to feeling "normal" after about 100 miles when almost all sensor finish learning with fuel trims taking the longest. I personally wouldn't do any wot runs for the first 30 miles anytime after resetting the ecm, but I'm sure there are peoples that will disagree
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:56 AM   #13
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For conversations sake - which fuses did you pull?
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For conversations sake - which fuses did you pull?
Can't speak for the OP, but I've always done #5 and 20.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:34 PM   #15
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I can't say what the science is - but i figured what the hey and gave it a try.....


The car definitely has more pull, very, very noticeable.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:57 PM   #16
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Pulled mine. Leaving it overnight. I'll post my findings tomorrow
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:27 PM   #17
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This does make me curious.


Also, I noticed a lot more soot on the exhaust tips when I put the CAI and Solo CAT back on the car.





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Left it for an hour. Ended up having to go out. Plugged fuses back in, and I now have a CEL. Hmmm

Edit - normal for a fuse pull
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Yep no worries on the cel. You can clear it Manually - or leave it. Once the ECM has enough data point it will clear the cel.
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Yep no worries on the cel. You can clear it Manually - or leave it. Once the ECM has enough data point it will clear the cel.
It clears on its own?




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Psychological Warfare....you wanted it to run better after the fuse pull. So, it did. I'm sure it was running fine before, especially since folks say you have to let it sit hours for the fuse pull to take effect. 40 minutes, and you felt the difference? Psychological Warfare.....
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I noticed OP said he is tuned to run 93. Is that an option for the Trifecta tune?
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:16 PM   #24
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I noticed OP said he is tuned to run 93. Is that an option for the Trifecta tune?

Not yet. But it is in the works now. Should here about this soon. Real soon.
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Cel won't clear. Battery reset?
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