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Old 03-13-2012, 12:21 PM   #1
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Problems with SS manual trannies?

Someone told me recently there was an "issue" with the manual trannies on the SS's. Did a search and couldn't come up with much, anyone know what this might be in reference to? Assuming GM stepped up and fixed it but want to ensure a friend's experience isn't a bad one.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:30 PM   #2
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Probably the second gear grind or the fact that it clunks around a little bit. The latter is not an actual issue though.

I have a 2SS manual, problem free
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #3
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Some of the early 2010 builds (pre 24,000 vin #'s) had some output shaft problems. The TR6060s in general have pretty weak synchros.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:46 PM   #4
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:19 PM   #5
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No issues with mine!
I have owned many mustangs in the past and all had less that desirable traits with notchiness and grinding, so I was a liitle hesitant to order my Camaro until I watched this reassuring video:

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Old 03-13-2012, 03:15 PM   #6
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No problems with mine at 33,000 miles.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:55 AM   #7
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My 2011 SS grinds every time I shift into second about 3500 RPMs, sucks because its sounds like I cant drive a stick if I have to take off fast. Yall are lucky not to have issues. Dealer is not helping at all with issue. I will have to take this into my hands and change the fluid myself.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:35 AM   #8
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No issues with mine!
I have owned many mustangs in the past and all had less that desirable traits with notchiness and grinding, so I was a liitle hesitant to order my Camaro until I watched this reassuring video:




The problem with that video is that the guy mentioned that they use carbon syncros which isn't entirely true. From my understanding, only the 2012 had carbon syncros from factory and maybe even some very late production 2011. I'm sure they help relieve some of the grinding problems but a lot of people still have the grinding problems.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:54 PM   #9
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Search- 2nd gear grind. Mine grinds only when the transmission is cold.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:28 PM   #10
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The grind issue does not seem to have a pattern as to what cars are affected, although it exists in the Challenger and Mustangs also, since they run the same manual tranny. Its probably not as big of a problem as the internet makes it out to be. But to those that have it? It sucks. Mine will be a little tempermental when cold, but I don't drive it in cold weather that much. My biggest concern was to try and get a smoother and faster shift into 2nd and 3rd at the drag strip. I have tried the Red Line D4 ATF fluid in the trans. with good results so far.
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The grind issue does not seem to have a pattern as to what cars are affected, although it exists in the Challenger and Mustangs also, since they run the same manual tranny. Its probably not as big of a problem as the internet makes it out to be. But to those that have it? It sucks. Mine will be a little tempermental when cold, but I don't drive it in cold weather that much. My biggest concern was to try and get a smoother and faster shift into 2nd and 3rd at the drag strip. I have tried the Red Line D4 ATF fluid in the trans. with good results so far.


I wasn't aware that the Mustangs ran the same transmission. I thought it was the T56? I think the GT500 has the Tremec though right? The real question that I have are if the Viper guys are having this problem as I heard they use the same TR6060.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:36 PM   #12
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I wasn't aware that the Mustangs ran the same transmission. I thought it was the T56? I think the GT500 has the Tremec though right? The real question that I have are if the Viper guys are having this problem as I heard they use the same TR6060.
Correct the Mustang GT500 has a tr6060. I pulled some info from wiki, so who knows how accurate it really is....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremec_...n#Applications
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:21 PM   #13
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Mine works great under normal conditions, I put in royal purple tonite and it does shift better but a 1-2 at red line will still grind if I pull fast like old school, if I do normal semi-fast shift its always good. Guess its just the way it is.......
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:35 PM   #14
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:53 AM   #15
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No issues with mine!
I have owned many mustangs in the past and all had less that desirable traits with notchiness and grinding, so I was a liitle hesitant to order my Camaro until I watched this reassuring video:

So their special testing procedure is just launching it and shifting hard? How long did it take them to develop that?
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:05 AM   #16
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beat the brakes off of mine from the day I bought it... never had 2nd gear grind
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:04 AM   #17
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Great responses, thanks. I believe that's exactly what we were concerned about, a grinding during shifting.

Is it only on upshift? Just curious.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:25 AM   #18
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Great responses, thanks. I believe that's exactly what we were concerned about, a grinding during shifting.

Is it only on upshift? Just curious.
Yes, upshift only. FWIW, mine's a late model 2011 and shifts like butter.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:21 PM   #19
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The grind issue does not seem to have a pattern as to what cars are affected, although it exists in the Challenger and Mustangs also, since they run the same manual tranny. Its probably not as big of a problem as the internet makes it out to be. But to those that have it? It sucks. Mine will be a little tempermental when cold, but I don't drive it in cold weather that much. My biggest concern was to try and get a smoother and faster shift into 2nd and 3rd at the drag strip. I have tried the Red Line D4 ATF fluid in the trans. with good results so far.
Only the GT500 uses the Tremec. The GT uses some piece of crap MT-280 I believe. It's had lots of issues.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:00 PM   #20
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I took mine in and after the 4th trip to the dealer they decided it needed fixin. I had 2nd gear and 3rd was starting. It has been in the shop for 35 days!
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:21 PM   #21
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Anyone that actually "drives" the car will tell you there are difficulties shifting in higher RPM's, especially with aggressive driving. For example you may go from 2nd. to 3rd. and miss a shift because it just won't go into gear unless you let off the accelerator to lower the RPM's a bit.
Happens to me almost all the time, I can easily reproduce the problem launching and then shifting at 4k+ RPM.
Now if you're going to the grocery store or just cruising around town shifting at 2.5k RPM you'll never have a problem, but if you're like most people that purchase the Camaro because you're a driver, you'll experience this notchy, sticky shifting issue.

There is a whole bunch of threads and complaints about it. Seems to be a few things, nobody really sure but lots of people rebuilding their trannys to resolve the issue. Some are just plain replacing the whole TR6060 with something else.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #22
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33k miles on mine and while a little notchy it doesn't grind even when shifting at redline. I'm just glad I don't have that grind some have experienced.
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33k miles on mine and while a little notchy it doesn't grind even when shifting at redline. I'm just glad I don't have that grind some have experienced.
Which gears are you readline shifting in, must have been lucky and got the high end prototype version of the tranny, before they started to cheap out on the internal parts.
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Mine is smooth some days and a touch notchy the next. Never ground a gear though but then again Ive only had the car for just over a month. Different car BTW, same tranny.
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Mine is smooth some days and a touch notchy the next. Never ground a gear though but then again Ive only had the car for just over a month. Different car BTW, same tranny.
I have the exact same experience. I've never had a grind, but it's so notchy that it won't let me shift NEARLY as fast as this guy in the video.
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