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Fogey · 03-14-2012, 02:22 PM

In terms of acceleration, what two or three year old Lexus, if any will give an SS a go? Assume both are stock and I'm not talking about the $100K plus models, just the Lexus your neighbor might buy.

SixGracing · 03-14-2012, 02:26 PM

The Lexus IS-F might give you a run. It's a V8, real wheel drive, over 400hp and paddle shifts like a formula one car. It would be a challenge. I think that one would come down to drivers.. It has a base of around $60K so similar to that of a Caddy CTS-V. Unfortunately there are some pretty quick foreign jobs out there. That's why, you add some mods and getting beat will never happen.

Shovan · 03-14-2012, 02:29 PM

A new Is-F beats you easy

pcrdude · 03-14-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shovan

A new Is-F beats you easy

$62K, 416 bhp, 3780 lbs, 4.6 sec 0-60mph, 13.0 sec. 1/4 mile.

I'd call it a driver's race myself.......(for nearly double the price).

Shovan · 03-14-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pcrdude

$62K, 416 bhp, 3780 lbs, 4.6 sec 0-60mph, 13.0 sec. 1/4 mile.

I'd call it a driver's race myself.......(for nearly double the price).

More like 4.2-4.3 ;

Fogey · 03-14-2012, 02:47 PM

I meant to exclude the LSF. I thought it was around $100K. I'm talking about the basic Lexus line.

pcrdude · 03-14-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shovan

More like 4.2-4.3 ;

Here is my source:

http://www.lexus.com/models/ISF/

pcrdude · 03-14-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogey

I meant to exclude the LSF. I thought it was around $100K. I'm talking about the basic Lexus line.

Are you thinkin' LFA? That is out of the park fast.

Edited to add "and expensive" @ $375K

Jayrcr3 · 03-14-2012, 02:53 PM

I can tell you that there is one (IS-f) around my area that probably won't be challenging me again.

SixGracing · 03-14-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogey

I meant to exclude the LSF. I thought it was around $100K. I'm talking about the basic Lexus line.

No one is talking about the LFA. We're talking the IS-F. I think it's the sporty verison of the Lexus IS300. It shifts like a bat out of hell too. Supposedly one of the smoothest, fasting shifting paddle shift trannys out there. I agree that it would be a drivers race. .

Swacer · 03-14-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogey

I meant to exclude the LSF. I thought it was around $100K. I'm talking about the basic Lexus line.

I think you need to familarize yourself with the Lexus line a little better.

The Lexus IS-F ($65.5K) is 420hp V8 RWD Sedan...and it will run right with you on any given day. Its paddles and 8 speed trans will probably whip you if you're off on a gear shift. Beautiful car, I almost bought one.

The Lexus LFA ($400K) is a 552hp V10 RWD Super Car. I wouldn't even compare a SS to this. Its not a fair comparision. Perhaps in hp with enough mods, but not in technology, luxury, and individuality.

The two cars listed above are why i never understand why people insult Toyota's ablity to create a performance car.

upflying · 03-14-2012, 02:57 PM

Don't pick this lexus.
http://www.streetfire.net/video/insa...this_72281.htm

Shovan · 03-14-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pcrdude

Here is my source:

http://www.lexus.com/models/ISF/

That's being on the safe side. Just like the v6 camaro was underrated. Car companies like to be safe when posting numbers

1BADLS3 · 03-14-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Swacer

The two cars listed above are why i never understand why people insult Toyota's ability to create a performance car.

Because they haven't been able to do it in the $30k range for how long now? And everything else they make is mostly slow and boring. It's not that they can't; it's that they don't.

pcrdude · 03-14-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shovan

That's being on the safe side. Just like the v6 camaro was underrated. Car companies like to be safe when posting numbers

Source?

Swacer · 03-14-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BADLS3

Because they haven't been able to do it in the $30k range for how long now? And everything else they make is mostly slow and boring. It's not that they can't; it's that they don't.

Because Lexus doesn't HAVE To. Lexus is Luxury, their sub brand is Toyota. I don't understand why people feel they should get luxury for 30K. If people could get it for 30K, whats the point of luxury? Its up to Toyota division to make a car that is quick for the price range.

The IS250 and IS350 are little quick cars in their own right, and cost upward to 40-50K. Heck, I'd consider saying the IS350 with the Fsport package could beat the V6 Camaro.

Shardik2SS · 03-14-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Swacer

Because Lexus doesn't HAVE To. Lexus is Luxury, their sub brand is Toyota. I don't understand why people feel they should get luxury for 30K. If people could get it for 30K, whats the point of luxury? Its up to Toyota division to make a car that is quick for the price range.

The IS250 and IS350 are little quick cars in their own right, and cost upward to 40-50K.

Shovan · 03-14-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pcrdude

Source?

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2012/lexus/is_f/

Next question?

pcrdude · 03-14-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shovan

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2012/lexus/is_f/

Next question?

Nope, just wanted to make sure you weren't making up numbers.

Carry on.

Devon · 03-14-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swacer

Because Lexus doesn't HAVE To. Lexus is Luxury, Lexus is Toyota's luxury sub brand. I don't understand why people feel they should get luxury for 30K. If people could get it for 30K, whats the point of luxury? Its up to Toyota division to make a car that is quick for the price range.

The IS250 and IS350 are little quick cars in their own right, and cost upward to 40-50K. Heck, I'd consider saying the IS350 with the Fsport package could beat the V6 Camaro.

FYP

amz · 03-14-2012, 04:24 PM

They don't write songs about Lexus.

hawk02 · 03-14-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JewelSS1992

Lexus LFA ($400K) is a 552hp V10 RWD Super Car. I wouldn't even compare a SS but for 400K why not save like 300K and get a ZR1

This is the car Kyle Busch (NASCAR fame) was caught driving 128 in 45 zone last year. Lost his license for 45 days and fined a grand. His lawyer argued by nature of his profession he couldn't drive it slow.

slick rick · 03-14-2012, 04:50 PM

Did your neighbor just buy a Lexus?

Swacer · 03-14-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JewelSS1992

Lexus LFA ($400K) is a 552hp V10 RWD Super Car. I wouldn't even compare a SS but for 400K why not save like 300K and get a ZR1

Um comparing a Camaro to a LFA? Wow, the argument just became pointless

TiE2000 · 03-14-2012, 05:56 PM

The IS350, is a surprisingly fast car... especially the (AWD) from a dig.

If you're talking track, yea the Lexus will lose to the SS. If you're talking about everyday Stop light to Stop light... be careful, with that AWD He'll get a good launch, and you'll be playing catch up.

If's he's smart he'll shut it down before you can catch up... thus "winning"

03-14-2012, 02:22 PM	#1
Fogey Drives: 2011 2SS/RS A6, IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Los Angeles Posts: 1,169	What, if any Lexus competes with SS? In terms of acceleration, what two or three year old Lexus, if any will give an SS a go? Assume both are stock and I'm not talking about the $100K plus models, just the Lexus your neighbor might buy.

03-14-2012, 02:26 PM	#2
SixGracing The Reaper Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Haven, UT Posts: 631	The Lexus IS-F might give you a run. It's a V8, real wheel drive, over 400hp and paddle shifts like a formula one car. It would be a challenge. I think that one would come down to drivers.. It has a base of around $60K so similar to that of a Caddy CTS-V. Unfortunately there are some pretty quick foreign jobs out there. That's why, you add some mods and getting beat will never happen. __________________

03-14-2012, 02:47 PM	#6
Fogey Drives: 2011 2SS/RS A6, IOM Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Los Angeles Posts: 1,169	My apologies I meant to exclude the LSF. I thought it was around $100K. I'm talking about the basic Lexus line.

03-14-2012, 02:53 PM	#9
Jayrcr3 Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chatham, Illinois Posts: 604	I can tell you that there is one (IS-f) around my area that probably won't be challenging me again. __________________ American Racing 1 7/8" Headers and Hi-Flow Cats, CAI cold air intake, Flowmaster AT exhaust, Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam, VMax ported throttle body, TEA valve springs and titanium retainers, Trick Flow hardened pushrods, 180* T-stat, Comp Trunion kit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM Fuel Pump Control Module, 20% window tint, Whipple Supercharger. Tuned by Mike Norris Motorsports. 656rwhp/584rwtq @10 PSI.

03-14-2012, 04:50 PM	#23
slick rick SoCal Mayhem Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 4,997 View My Garage	Did your neighbor just buy a Lexus? __________________

03-14-2012, 02:29 PM	#3
Shovan Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro ls Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 125	A new Is-F beats you easy

03-14-2012, 02:57 PM	#12
upflying Drives: '86 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Antioch, Ca Posts: 2,614	Don't pick this lexus. http://www.streetfire.net/video/insa...this_72281.htm

03-14-2012, 04:24 PM	#21
amz Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Richmond,Virginia Posts: 499	They don't write songs about Lexus.

03-14-2012, 05:56 PM	#25
TiE2000 Drives: Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Denver CO Posts: 261	The IS350, is a surprisingly fast car... especially the (AWD) from a dig. If you're talking track, yea the Lexus will lose to the SS. If you're talking about everyday Stop light to Stop light... be careful, with that AWD He'll get a good launch, and you'll be playing catch up. If's he's smart he'll shut it down before you can catch up... thus "winning"

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