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Old 08-14-2013, 12:13 PM   #776
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How about a sneak peek? call it Sneaky Tuesday...

It's not right making us wait... teasing us like that...

BTW... Hi Pete!!
W3e have run our Pedders USA Camaros on race tracks around the country. None of our suspension parts break, except at Road America. We have now failed two two links at RA. The first was on the L/28 and the second on Bruce Raymond's 1LE. The reason the links bend is they are performing exactly as designed. When sufficient side load is present the OE designs the link to bend protecting the sub-frame. This works very well if you get loose in the rain and kiss a curb. The same side load can be generated on a race course.

At RA coming off the gatorbacks out of turns loads the outside wheel when the wheel comes back in contact with the track surface. Your have to be running hard and fast to create this condition. That is a given for Bruce Raymond and Danny Popp. It is easy to say make a stronger arm. The stronger arm will load the sub-frame mounting point. We are Pedders and reluctant to do that. We are Pedders and expect our cars to be bullet proof reliable. That put us between a rock and a hard place.

You all know that we really like the ZL1 and 1LE toe links. The sealed bearing are tested to be OEM quiet for 150,000 miles. That is a Pedders part Those links have now failed us twice at RA. We belive our solution is elegant conceptually. We decided to use the OE bearings from ZL1 or 1LE toe links, with a stronger arm and retain the eccentric adjustment as out fuse to protect the sub-frame. The eccentric adjuster should slip under impact allowing just enough motion to protect the sub-frame. Pedders eXtreme Range Eccentrics have thicker eccentrics that provide excellent grip and have been race tested. We think we have the best of all worlds in our new ZL1 1LE upgrade arms.

The only negative to the arms is that we have yet to source the bearings separate from the arms. If you have a 1LE or ZL1 the upgrade is easy. Press the bearings out of the OE arm and press them into Pedders arm. We can do it for you on an exchange basis.






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Old 08-14-2013, 12:19 PM   #777
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6896918&posted=1#post6896918

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=1#post6896918

Suspension components are addicting. The more you have, the more you want more. I bought Xa coilovers or Pfadt single adjustable and I wish I had bought Supercars with independent bound and rebound adjustment. We are prepared to make it easy.

We are testing a trade-in / trade-up program. Order your Camaro Supercar coilovers by phone from Pedders USA 248.522.8021 or your participating Pedders Dealer and we will authorize a $850 credit dependent on your trade-up / trade-in Pedders Xa or Pfadt brand coilovers being is full working order. We will ship your coilovers out FREE. Use the Pedders Supercar packaging to return your coilovers with the included return label.

Camaro 164086 Supercar Coilovers
CAMARO XA REMOTE CANISTER
  • 52MM HIGH PRESSURE NITROGEN MONOTUBE CONSTRUCTION
  • 25% SURFACE AREA INCREASE OVER THE STANDARD XA COILOVERS
  • 30 POSITIVE POSITION DAMPING ADJUSTMENT
  • THREADED TUBE AND MOUNT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
  • OEM COMPATIBLE BRACKETRY
  • HIGH STRENGTH STEEL STRUT CLEVIS DESIGN FOR OPTIMAL STRENGTH
  • ADVANCED ALLOY MOTORSPORT COILS
  • ALUMINIUM SPRING PERCHES AND LOCKING RINGS
  • SET OF 4 PEDDERS XA COILOVERS IN EACH BOX
  • INCLUDES SPANNER WRENCHES TO ADJUST HEIGHT

This is a market test. We'll see what the response is and what we are able to do with the previously owned coilovers. We hope our Dealers are able to use them for cost effective upgrades and installs. We won't know until we try. Who will be the first?



If your coilovers are not fully functional (adjustment rings and all mechanicals in working condition) Your credit will be reversed and $850 charged to your credit card.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:37 PM   #778
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:56 PM   #779
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:05 PM   #780
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Want to drive the best-of-the-best 5th Gen Camaro, then you'll want the latest and greatest from Pedders. For the second year in a row, the Pedders Lingenfelter Camaro had the fastest combined Road Course (2nd to a bad axx 3,100 pound Vette) and Autocross (1st) times at the event.



The data connection from the vehicle to the data logger was intermittent. The G forces are integral to the data logger and are spot on.
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W3e have run our Pedders USA Camaros on race tracks around the country. None of our suspension parts break, except at Road America. We have now failed two two links at RA. The first was on the L/28 and the second on Bruce Raymond's 1LE. The reason the links bend is they are performing exactly as designed. When sufficient side load is present the OE designs the link to bend protecting the sub-frame. This works very well if you get loose in the rain and kiss a curb. The same side load can be generated on a race course.

At RA coming off the gatorbacks out of turns loads the outside wheel when the wheel comes back in contact with the track surface. Your have to be running hard and fast to create this condition. That is a given for Bruce Raymond and Danny Popp. It is easy to say make a stronger arm. The stronger arm will load the sub-frame mounting point. We are Pedders and reluctant to do that. We are Pedders and expect our cars to be bullet proof reliable. That put us between a rock and a hard place.

You all know that we really like the ZL1 and 1LE toe links. The sealed bearing are tested to be OEM quiet for 150,000 miles. That is a Pedders part Those links have now failed us twice at RA. We belive our solution is elegant conceptually. We decided to use the OE bearings from ZL1 or 1LE toe links, with a stronger arm and retain the eccentric adjustment as out fuse to protect the sub-frame. The eccentric adjuster should slip under impact allowing just enough motion to protect the sub-frame. Pedders eXtreme Range Eccentrics have thicker eccentrics that provide excellent grip and have been race tested. We think we have the best of all worlds in our new ZL1 1LE upgrade arms.

The only negative to the arms is that we have yet to source the bearings separate from the arms. If you have a 1LE or ZL1 the upgrade is easy. Press the bearings out of the OE arm and press them into Pedders arm. We can do it for you on an exchange basis.






OEM Quiet.
Race car function.

Only from Pedders.
These are some SERIOUS toe links! Saw prototypes in person at Raymonds during the fest!
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #781
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it's the wrong color, lol
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:49 PM   #782
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I know red is a Pedder trademark but I wish black was an option for us stealthy guys...
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:37 AM   #783
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:27 PM   #784
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:08 PM   #786
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Could use that as a diaper in a pinch too
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Best thread ever?! Why? MWDs! My father was a dog handler in Vietnam. He installed in me at an early age how dogs are truly man's best friend. Not for protection but as companions, friends and LOYAL family. He never spoke of his experiences in Vietnam, but I'm quite sure his dog saved his life and the lives of many others during his service. I only knew of his medals earned in combat after his passing while preparing his home for sale.
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We did that for some 'unknown' sanctioning body racing a number of years ago

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Best thread ever?! Why? MWDs! My father was a dog handler in Vietnam. He installed in me at an early age how dogs are truly man's best friend. Not for protection but as companions, friends and LOYAL family. He never spoke of his experiences in Vietnam, but I'm quite sure his dog saved his life and the lives of many others during his service. I only knew of his medals earned in combat after his passing while preparing his home for sale.
As a country we did a terrible job of separating the war from the warrior back then. Please pass on my thanks to your Dad for his service in Nam. He earned it and more.

My best guess is he served with a Dobe or a Shepard. Any chance you have a picture your could post?

Ppirro passed his first stage of testing this week. He seems to enjoy military life judged by his still stocky build. His brothers and sister are still in 'puppy' issue collars. Check out the size of his neck and his 'big boy' collar.



Woodward is great. Hooked up with lowdown for lunch. Spent some time with Kyle Gilmore and a bunch from Buyers and Builders event. This evening I was a guest with Becky and Joe from Rodgers Chevrolet at Woodward. This morning was great at the Heritage Center. Especially this.



That is an Official Pedderised Pace Car on display. They said do not touch the cars. They never said don't touch the sign
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I forgot to mention previously, thank you Pete for assisting in the development and training of these fine 4 legged "people"! Pprirro is quite the impressive young man! I know for certain one thing that bothered my father is that the MWDs were treated not like soldiers but rather classified as "equipment". My father's partner, Smoke, as he was named, was unable to return stateside with him. I'm happy to see that the 4 legged soldiers now get their proper respect.

As requested, here is a scan of a few photos of my father and Smoke. USA #1.
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Great pictures. Your Dad was just a kid with a big dog in a really bad place.

I appreciate your thanks, but we don't deserve them. Ppirro was fostered in honor of EOD Danny Fye and the sacrifices he made in the sand box and he and his family are still making. The next is for EOD Ben Parker who did and is doing the same. They both earned it.
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W3e have run our Pedders USA Camaros on race tracks around the country. None of our suspension parts break, except at Road America. We have now failed two two links at RA. The first was on the L/28 and the second on Bruce Raymond's 1LE. The reason the links bend is they are performing exactly as designed. When sufficient side load is present the OE designs the link to bend protecting the sub-frame. This works very well if you get loose in the rain and kiss a curb. The same side load can be generated on a race course.

At RA coming off the gatorbacks out of turns loads the outside wheel when the wheel comes back in contact with the track surface. Your have to be running hard and fast to create this condition. That is a given for Bruce Raymond and Danny Popp. It is easy to say make a stronger arm. The stronger arm will load the sub-frame mounting point. We are Pedders and reluctant to do that. We are Pedders and expect our cars to be bullet proof reliable. That put us between a rock and a hard place.

You all know that we really like the ZL1 and 1LE toe links. The sealed bearing are tested to be OEM quiet for 150,000 miles. That is a Pedders part Those links have now failed us twice at RA. We belive our solution is elegant conceptually. We decided to use the OE bearings from ZL1 or 1LE toe links, with a stronger arm and retain the eccentric adjustment as out fuse to protect the sub-frame. The eccentric adjuster should slip under impact allowing just enough motion to protect the sub-frame. Pedders eXtreme Range Eccentrics have thicker eccentrics that provide excellent grip and have been race tested. We think we have the best of all worlds in our new ZL1 1LE upgrade arms.

The only negative to the arms is that we have yet to source the bearings separate from the arms. If you have a 1LE or ZL1 the upgrade is easy. Press the bearings out of the OE arm and press them into Pedders arm. We can do it for you on an exchange basis.






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Only from Pedders.
Hmmmmmm, this car looks kinda familiar.

It might even be getting further testing at RA in OCT.

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Old 08-18-2013, 10:06 AM   #796
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It might even be getting further testing at RA in OCT.

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It might even be getting further testing at RA in OCT.

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CCW SP16 20x10 F and 20x11.5 R. Michelin Pilot Super Sport 285/35F and 315/35R.

They are Bruce's old street rims from Raymonds Performance.

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Where in Texas is Pedders located ?
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Where in Texas is Pedders located ?
On behalf of Pete.... Center point, Texas.

If you are looking for the actual address I have no idea.
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