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Big Daddy Kane · 03-24-2012, 11:00 PM

No, you won't need to run cooler plugs. If you look at the info label that comes with the kit (the emissions and belt info label that you are suppose to stick under the hood) it tells you to use the stock sparkplug gap as well.

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-25-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

I went to pick it up in my tahoe, wow!!!! Its a big box, wrapped in waterproof plastic, strapped to a pallet. I had to remove the straps and lose the pallet to get it to fit in the back. Don't worry about the cardboard, I ripped into it to check for contents, I couldn't see anything else except more Edelbrock sealed cardboard boxes. The outer box was dent and poke free so I feel good with the shipping.

Question, will I need cooler spark plugs????

YES!!! you need to drop at least one heat range ,i would drop two if your over 525-550 rwhp

HufferSS · 03-25-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

Attention to detail more than anything else.

It might look pretty...aka attention to detail...but it is clearly Third of the big three...and by FAR. Big three being a Maggie, Edelbrock or Whipple. I don't count Kenne Bell cause I hate em.

tjbusa · 03-25-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Kane

No, you won't need to run cooler plugs. If you look at the info label that comes with the kit (the emissions and belt info label that you are suppose to stick under the hood) it tells you to use the stock sparkplug gap as well.

I am not totally stock, thats why I was asking.

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

YES!!! you need to drop at least one heat range ,i would drop two if your over 525-550 rwhp

That is what I need to know, maybe start with one lower and see how it dyno's out.

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Originally Posted by HufferSS

It might look pretty...aka attention to detail...but it is clearly Third of the big three...and by FAR. Big three being a Maggie, Edelbrock or Whipple. I don't count Kenne Bell cause I hate em.

Whatever, I just like em

HufferSS · 03-25-2012, 02:42 PM

THat's all that matters. Ever run your car at Jackson?

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-25-2012, 03:18 PM

Read the ngk website,its a good read.....

RSBAD454 · 03-25-2012, 05:53 PM

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...d.asp?mode=nml

epstein · 03-25-2012, 06:12 PM

Use the Factory Plugs.......

realcanuk · 03-25-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by epstein

Use the Factory Plugs.......

I think colder plugs will be needed. I don't know anyone running factory plugs on blown cars.

Big Daddy Kane · 03-26-2012, 06:10 AM

When I supercharged my car, I researched on here, and many people said stay with the stock plugs. Not everyone said that, but enough to convince me to keep them. And so far no problems with the stockers

tjbusa · 03-26-2012, 08:16 AM

Looks like, not not a simple question on the plugs. I tend to believe what NGK's website says. I don't plan on drag racing, I just want a performance weekend car that still has near stock mpg manners . I plan on getting this bolted up this coming weekend and am waiting on the fuel up grade kit from Jannetty. The plugs I can pick up anywhere so thats not an issue.
This whole supercharger thing got started when me and my wife went to Starbucks for a coffee and I parked way out. Before I could get out and past the the rear of the car a mid 2000 model Mustang GT came pulling in one spot over on the passenger side. He had his car running and his window down, I could tell he had flowmasters and they sounded good. I gave him a thumbs up and hollered, "sounds good". He shut his engine off and asked me to repeat what I said. When I told him, he said," Oh, I thought you wanted to run me." He asks me what kind of mods I had on the Camaro and I said, headers and a cai. "Well it wouldn't have been much of a race, I have a supercharger on mine." That still bothers me and that was 6 months ago.

Oh and HufferSS, no on Jackson, thats a serious camaro you have there.

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-26-2012, 10:17 AM

It amazes me someone would think that you could run a stock plug with a blower that adds over 100 hp

. Take notice that gm droped the heat range from the ss to the zl1,better yet why would they go to the trouble to make all these heat ranges if one size fits all...Ive seen a ton of motors destroyed from the wrong heat range,ive yet to see a bad motor from a cold spark plug...

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-26-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Kane

When I supercharged my car, I researched on here, and many people said stay with the stock plugs. Not everyone said that, but enough to convince me to keep them. And so far no problems with the stockers

I think the main vioce that said keep the stock plugs has now changed to say use the ZL1 plugs,which are coolder ,you may want to do a plug change....

JANNETTYRACING · 03-26-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

It amazes me someone would think that you could run a stock plug with a blower that adds over 100 hp

. Take notice that gm droped the heat range from the ss to the zl1,better yet why would they go to the trouble to make all these heat ranges if one size fits all...Ive seen a ton of motors destroyed from the wrong heat range,ive yet to see a bad motor from a cold spark plug...

We tested Stock Plugs up to 800 Wheel which is 500 Crank HP Over Stock with ZERO ISSUES, so for a simple 100 or so they are Fine.

We do Recommend ZR1 Plugs for all supercharged Gen5s

Do they make more Power, NO Do they Run better NO, just makes you feel good that you changed something

Remember the ZR1 Plugs are designed for 630 Crank HP but we run them at 1200

Ted.

tjbusa · 03-26-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

I think the main vioce that said keep the stock plugs has now changed to say use the ZL1 plugs,which are coolder ,you may want to do a plug change....

I'm gonna

We do Recommend ZR1 Plugs for all supercharged Gen5s

Thanks

Cpanthers85 · 03-26-2012, 04:15 PM

where are you planning on hooking up your Catch can? I don't think it will fit on the pass side...

epstein · 03-26-2012, 06:43 PM

D/s ....easy install with eforce.

B.Buster · 03-26-2012, 07:04 PM

What is part number on the ZL1 plug

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-26-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

We tested Stock Plugs up to 800 Wheel which is 500 Crank HP Over Stock with ZERO ISSUES, so for a simple 100 or so they are Fine.

We do Recommend ZR1 Plugs for all supercharged Gen5s

Do they make more Power, NO Do they Run better NO, just makes you feel good that you changed something

Remember the ZR1 Plugs are designed for 630 Crank HP but we run them at 1200

Ted.

Well since you called me out lol,how many spark plug companies do you think would agree with you?

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-26-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

I'm gonna

We do Recommend ZR1 Plugs for all supercharged Gen5s

Thanks

Thats better than stock lol.

tjbusa · 03-26-2012, 10:37 PM

Thanks guys

Order Details:
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Quantity: 8
Item: 41-104 - SPARK PLUG

tjbusa · 03-26-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpanthers85

where are you planning on hooking up your Catch can? I don't think it will fit on the pass side...

I've seen em mounted fwd of the eng battery terminal, that looks good to me.

JANNETTYRACING · 03-27-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

Well since you called me out lol,how many spark plug companies do you think would agree with you?

All the ones that Don't want to sell Spark Plugs

Who called who out?

Cpanthers85 · 03-27-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by epstein

D/s ....easy install with eforce.

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

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I've seen em mounted fwd of the eng battery terminal, that looks good to me.

I've seen that too, but I have the RotoFab window washer replacement there. I am running out of room! lol

Hendrix-Engineering · 03-27-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

All the ones that Don't want to sell Spark Plugs

Who called who out?

LOL,ok last comment,your still buying a set of plugs,maybe the wrong heat range but your still buying a set ,I would think the sparkplug companies recomendation would be a great one.just wanted to give the members another voice .nothing against you Ted you do great work ,I just disagree with running a stock plug in a modified engine,I would think spark plug companies would rather have one part number LOL

03-24-2012, 11:00 PM	#26
Big Daddy Kane Drives: Red 1SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bethel Park, PA Posts: 174	No, you won't need to run cooler plugs. If you look at the info label that comes with the kit (the emissions and belt info label that you are suppose to stick under the hood) it tells you to use the stock sparkplug gap as well. __________________ Kooks LT Headers/catback exhaust, E-force supercharger, JRE fuel line upgrade, JRE differential, 3.91 LPE gears, Roto-fab intake, JRE tune

03-25-2012, 02:42 PM	#30
HufferSS I Wanna Go Faster!! Drives: 2011 2SS Synergy Green M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SC Posts: 3,339	THat's all that matters. Ever run your car at Jackson? __________________ Built by Vengeance Racing 9.31@154.81 mph Procharger F1-X RPM Level 7 4L80e + Coan Converter Hendrix 9" Rear Axle + 3.50 Gear ARH 2" LTs+3.5" Exhaust Fore Fuel System, Bogarts + Hoosier Slicks Pfadt Drag Pack Suspension My Build Thread \| Best Pass To Date

03-25-2012, 05:53 PM	#32
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03-25-2012, 06:12 PM	#33
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03-26-2012, 06:10 AM	#35
Big Daddy Kane Drives: Red 1SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bethel Park, PA Posts: 174	When I supercharged my car, I researched on here, and many people said stay with the stock plugs. Not everyone said that, but enough to convince me to keep them. And so far no problems with the stockers __________________ Kooks LT Headers/catback exhaust, E-force supercharger, JRE fuel line upgrade, JRE differential, 3.91 LPE gears, Roto-fab intake, JRE tune

03-25-2012, 03:18 PM	#31
Hendrix-Engineering Account Suspended Drives: First 9 inch-12 bolt IRS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 1,847	Read the ngk website,its a good read.....

03-26-2012, 08:16 AM	#36
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,162	Looks like, not not a simple question on the plugs. I tend to believe what NGK's website says. I don't plan on drag racing, I just want a performance weekend car that still has near stock mpg manners . I plan on getting this bolted up this coming weekend and am waiting on the fuel up grade kit from Jannetty. The plugs I can pick up anywhere so thats not an issue. This whole supercharger thing got started when me and my wife went to Starbucks for a coffee and I parked way out. Before I could get out and past the the rear of the car a mid 2000 model Mustang GT came pulling in one spot over on the passenger side. He had his car running and his window down, I could tell he had flowmasters and they sounded good. I gave him a thumbs up and hollered, "sounds good". He shut his engine off and asked me to repeat what I said. When I told him, he said," Oh, I thought you wanted to run me." He asks me what kind of mods I had on the Camaro and I said, headers and a cai. "Well it wouldn't have been much of a race, I have a supercharger on mine." That still bothers me and that was 6 months ago. Oh and HufferSS, no on Jackson, thats a serious camaro you have there. __________________ ************************************* Drive-by Fact of Life: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar reads... W T F *************************************

03-26-2012, 10:17 AM	#37
Hendrix-Engineering Account Suspended Drives: First 9 inch-12 bolt IRS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 1,847	It amazes me someone would think that you could run a stock plug with a blower that adds over 100 hp. Take notice that gm droped the heat range from the ss to the zl1,better yet why would they go to the trouble to make all these heat ranges if one size fits all...Ive seen a ton of motors destroyed from the wrong heat range,ive yet to see a bad motor from a cold spark plug...

03-26-2012, 04:15 PM	#41
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03-26-2012, 06:43 PM	#42
epstein Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 667	D/s ....easy install with eforce. __________________ 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6.. Eforce,Janetty tune, JRE fuel upgrade, ZL 1 fuel Pump, ADM FPC , ID 850 injectors,Roto Fab CAI, MSD wires,JBA Long Tube 1 7/8 headers Borla S exhaust,MGW short throw shifter,PLX gauges Kenwood touch screen nav, Polk Audio Speakers, 2 1200 Amps, Fusion 12" subs, Complete Vehicle Dyna matted

03-26-2012, 07:04 PM	#43
B.Buster Drives: 2010 AquaBlue 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 347	What is part number on the ZL1 plug

03-26-2012, 10:37 PM	#46
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,162	Thanks guys Order Details: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quantity: 8 Item: 41-104 - SPARK PLUG __________________ ************************************* Drive-by Fact of Life: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar reads... W T F *************************************

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