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Old 03-20-2012, 09:36 AM   #1
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Question Muffler Delete, Resonated X Pipe or Not?

Hi I plan on making the muffler delete one of my first mods when i do get my 2012 2ss/rs. I was wondering...What is the point of getting the resonated x pipe rather than just doing a straight muffler delete. Also what is with the resonators...do I keep them? I've been listening to YouTube videos but it is hard to tell as everyone's camera is different...What are the differences, and what do you recommend? I also want to make sure I will pass emissions. Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:41 AM   #2
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:27 AM   #3
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Having a manual trans vs auto trans will make a little difference in your decision. The resonator on an A6 vs M6 is totally different. Also, the muffler and resonator are two different things.

Go through this thread and you'll get a little more insite on what you are looking at doing.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64964

And....here are some pics of a M6 (top) vs A6 (bottom) exhaust. You can see the resonator on the A6 is a monster. On the A6 the reonator and H-pipe are all enclosed inside the muffler type housing where the M6 resonators are small and the H-pipe is visible. he mufflers are the big cans at the rear of the exhaust.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:56 PM   #4
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yes thank you... i read that thread but still don't see the difference between getting the muffler delete with resonated x pipe or just doing the muffler delete by itself. I have a manual transmission. I know resonator and muffler are different but I see people saying get rid of the resonator and some say they don't....What is the point of the X pipe? When you do the resonated x pipe muffler delete, do you get rid of stock resonators? When you do muffler delete with just the straight pipe do you get rid of stock resonators? sorry for being such a newb haha
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:13 PM   #5
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...What is the point of the X pipe? When you do the resonated x pipe muffler delete, do you get rid of stock resonators? When you do muffler delete with just the straight pipe do you get rid of stock resonators? sorry for being such a newb haha
The x-pipe will scavenge exhaust more efficiently than straight pipes, or even h-pipes. It will also alter the tone a bit. Straight pipes will sound the least refined of the three. The h-pipe will be a little less raspy, but will still have more of an "old-school" sound than the x-pipe.

If you go with straight pipes, h-pipes, or a non-resonated x-pipe, it will be your choice as to whether or not you delete the stock resonators (deleting them will make your exhaust sound more aggressive). If you choose the resonated x-pipe, you'll want to delete the stock resonators for sure.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:33 PM   #6
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Thanks! so basically the X-Pipe has a new school sound while the H and straight delete has old school? Tell me if I am wrong but it sounds like the X pipe sounds like an actual exhaust system while straight deleting does not, has more imperfections? But is straight much louder?
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:07 PM   #7
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Straight-pipe volume will not be much louder than a non-resonated x-pipe. The tone, however, will definetly be different.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:10 AM   #8
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how about taking off the cats with the x pipe...good idea, bad idea?
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:36 PM   #9
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how about taking off the cats with the x pipe...good idea, bad idea?
This is basically what i'll be running soon. Solo high flows, res x pipe, and muffler delete. The x pipe in my case is just to keep things reasonable. I don't want it crazy loud, and it will help with highway drone hopefully.

Plus, the x-pipe i have is 2.5" ID, so it allows me some alignment slop that i wouldn't have with just the delete butt weld. I appreciate that
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:24 AM   #10
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so what is the point of getting rid of cats? Does anyone recommend it?
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:10 AM   #11
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Take off your mufflers, put an X pipe in the place of your resenator, vroom
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:08 PM   #12
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okay how about tru x vs the resonated x pipe. What is the difference?
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I have a Magnaflow Tru X on mine. Resonated tends to get rid of Rasp in the exhaust note. I don't know whether you have looked into catback systems, but they are a clean alternative and will pass the sniffer test. Muffler deletes get very loud very fast, my setup with headers and no mufflers is louder than it sounded on YouTube. Also, without headers or resonators, the exhaust starts to lose the muscle car bellow. Hope this helps.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:49 PM   #14
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I just put a K&N CAI on my SS that has Magnaflow mufflers and now the "raspiness" that I used to experience is gone! However, I don't know if an x-pipe will do anything for me or not.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:19 PM   #15
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high flow cats and no mufflers
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:26 AM   #16
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so you think i should delete the resonators with the resonated x pipe? Will it pass emissions and will it sound that much louder without the stock ones?
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:30 AM   #17
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so what is the point of getting rid of cats? Does anyone recommend it?
The stock exhaust (from behind the Cat) flows VERY well by itself, however most of the power loss comes from the VERY restrictive stock Catalytic Converters. So either eliminating them (which may or may not throw a code) or replacing them with a High-flow will easily freeup 20-30hp to the wheel as well as make the car sound beastly.

If you eliminate them all together though I would recommend a resonated-X. Just personal preference but I dont like all the unrefined sound coming out.....
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:25 AM   #18
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I ran a non-resonated x-pipe mufflers for a while... kept the stock cats... I loved the way it sounded

now i'm running longtubes, no cats, non-resonated x-pipe, but with mufflers
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:06 PM   #19
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but would no cats pass emissions, lots of drone? Still not sure about resonator delete either
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:23 PM   #20
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but would no cats pass emissions, lots of drone? Still not sure about resonator delete either

Removing the Resonator caused mine to drone at 1000/1200 rpm. I did LT's,Cat/ front resonator delete and Flowmasters and had no drone, then my resonator in the rear started coming apart so I removed it with an x-pipe.
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